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The only flag design I had any liking for was the one with the seven pointed star. The rest were meh or downright terrible. The mountain and honey comb designs were the worst IMO, so obvious and over-used. Every dentist’s office emblem in the state has those three point mountains, and the honey combs are unique to Utah, but not at all to Salt Lake City. The white and blue bars design... while I get the symbolism, just comes off as lazy and boring. The city’s current flag is pretty shit, so anything different is an improvement. At least we don’t have Provo’s flag.. so bad it’s great.

The state flag is awful. That needs an immediate change.
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I agree that none of the designs are quite what they need to be but I don't believe any of them are too simple. I would even argue that at least a couple are too complex. Think about some of the most iconic flags in the world. They are almost all simpler than any but one of these designs. For example, Japan, Germany, Switzerland, England, France, the PRIDE flag etc. A good flag should be able to be drawn by a small child from memory. I think adding one too many details can be the difference between a flag that people put on tshirts, bikinis, beach towels, post cards, etc and one that you only see in government buildings and wikipedia articles.

One of the things I don't like about most of these designs is the color scheme. Many of them use softer, less common colors and I think it would be best to stick to basic, more bold colors unless the color has special meaning for example copper.
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I know it's overused but I think mountains are fine for Salt Lake City.

The two things that people think of most often when Salt Lake comes up are Mormons (or the temple specifically) and mountains.
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Literally zero of the flags did anything for me.

I feel like I would have designed something similar in my graphic arts class as a senior in high school in 1995.
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The more I think about it, the more I love the flag with just a simple white bar above a blue bar. Its really quite clever in spite of being super simple, which makes for an excellent flag. It is unique to Salt Lake City, which is hard to say for the other flags. The others are relatively generic (mountains), use symbols that refer more to Utah than SLC (sego lily, honey/bee), or look to similar to other flags (the one that looks like Chicago).

An issue that I have with the flag is that it is blue, which can be problematic given that the U of U is such a huge part of SLC. But what if the U were to adapt the white and blue and integrate it a flag of their own? I was thinking something like Panama's flag, sans the stars and flip it horizontally (so red over white on the left, white over blue on the right). Colleges don't really have flags and if they do it is just their logo on it. It could be a way to reference both the U of U and that it is in SLC.
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I like the idea of the simple white and blue flag when you put it that way slc801, but it definitely isn't unique to Salt Lake. It's literally the flag of Bavaria.
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Dang, you would think the city would have ran an image search or something before selecting it. Maybe they could turn it 90 degrees or something.
I was starting to love that design.
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A simple change would be to take the blue and white flag and make the delineation between the colors a "three mountain" profile instead of a flat line. Then it would be unique and still maintain its relative simplicity.
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I like your idea slc801. One idea that I was think of today was another way to make it more unique. What if you kept the blue bottom and white top and in the top left corner you had a red star with a circle around it. The red would symbolize the U of U. The star would symbolize that SLC is the capital city and the circle around the star would symbolize the olympic rings and that SLC hosted the olympics in 2002. Thoughts?
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Literally zero of the flags did anything for me.

I feel like I would have designed something similar in my graphic arts class as a senior in high school in 1995.
Flags are supposed to be simple. Look up flags of countries. Most of them are just bars of colors. I don't know where this idea that flags have to be intricate came from.

That said, these flags still aren't very good. But ANY flag is one that a senior in high school should be able to come up with.
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To your point, the Denver flag was literally designed by a high school student and it is considered one of the best US city flags.
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I like the idea of the simple white and blue flag when you put it that way slc801, but it definitely isn't unique to Salt Lake. It's literally the flag of Bavaria.
I guess Im differentiating between unique and one-ok-a-kind. Im fine with it being the flag of Bavaria because it has a totally different meaning and context (according to Wikipedia, no one is totally sure how Bavaria's flag came to be). Most of the other proposed flags, with a bit of justification and history streching, could be a flag for any number of other cities in Utah or even the Intermountain West. White over blue is unique to SLC because it literally says Salt Lake and would be hard to justify for any other place. Sure, its what Bavaria has but given the how strongly it can tie to our city, I think we are fine using it without the presumption of copying.
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Could someone post some examples of good examples of flags of other cities?
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Could someone post some examples of good examples of flags of other cities?
https://flagpolesetc.com/blog/ten-be...-united-states
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My Rio Grande proposal is finished!

Still a rough draft though, and I may have overdone it. 61 pages and 10,000 words (lots of pictures too!).

Anyway, here's the link for y'all to peruse it at your leisure - and as always, all feedback is highly appreciated.

(PDF Warning!)https://drive.google.com/file/d/10_N...ew?usp=sharing
I finally got around to checking this out and I absolutely love it. Since I just moved to the west downtown area, I can see first hand how the presence of the railroad tracks affects the walkability and urban fabric of the area and I can envision how this would help.

One of my questions would involve how the 600 West viaduct over the UP tracks (which I understand the need for) would affect walkability. That would have to remain a major pedestrian corridor to connect areas south to the Green Line, especially since there's such a major surge of apartments in the area and this proposal would only accelerate that. There's also 3 apartment complexes (soon to be 5!) and a handful of single-family homes (somehow still holding out) that are directly along the viaduct that would unfortunately get the short end of the stick in this proposal.

Also, if I have any suggestions for the document, I would recommend incorporating pictures of what the current land around Rio Grande looks like. For example, when you reference where the new stations will go, using comparative pictures of the current state of that area (like 500 West and Rio Grande Street where TRAX would go) would help people visualize how it could change.

Overall though this is a fantastic proposal, and I hope that you can get some actual important/influential people to look at it!
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Could someone post some examples of good examples of flags of other cities?
Jackson, MS and New Orleans have good flags. Mesa's flag isn't terrible.

From the Building Salt Lake article:
THE FIVE PRINCIPLES OF GOOD FLAG DESIGN

A flag need not contain lettering or seals.
A flag should use no more than three colors.
A flag should be so simple a child can draw it from memory.
A flag should use meaningful symbolism.
A flag should be distinctive or related — it shouldn’t duplicate other flags but should use similarities to show connections.
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