JERSEY CITY, N.J.: 500 ft Goldman Sachs tower | 30 Floors

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by mcbklyn

^Reading the article, it seems more like JC officials were working out what will be allowed on the site, less like what GS will actually do with it (height-wise). The city will now allow a 500 footer on the site, but that doesn't mean GS will actually build one.

That's true. Remember, Goldman originally had plans for 3 towers on the site. As it is now, they just want to have plans in place. Remember their search for space a few months back. Maybe they don't want to have to repeat it.

[macmini]

Originally Posted by NYguy

That's true. Remember, Goldman originally had plans for 3 towers on the site. As it is now, they just want to have plans in place. Remember their search for space a few months back. Maybe they don't want to have to repeat it.

That just shows how little you know the original plan never hade 3 towers.

The company's current Jersey City building - the state's tallest with a capacity for about 5,000 employees - is less than half full.


So, of 5,000 you say there's 2,000? Please.

I said over two 2,000

Originally Posted by macmini
Their is more construction going on or planned in JC then Brooklyn and Queens combined. The Jersey City waterfronte is more developed then Bro. & Queens an the commute from JC is still better.


And thirdly, you've just proven how little you do know.

Liberty Harbor North is twice the size of Atlantic Yards and their are plenty of smaller projects that don't get that much press .

Liberty Harbor North
86 acres

Housing: upt to 9.16 million sq. ft., (7,336 units)
Retail: 775,000 sq. ft.
School: 175,000 sq. ft.
Office: 4.6 million sq. ft.
Hotel: 1.1 million sq ft.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by macmini

That just shows how little you know the original plan never hade 3 towers.

You know, I really don't have the time to keep coming behind you and correcting your dumb mistakes, especially when all you have to do is read up on the information you're talking about...

Goldman Sachs... is paying a reported $100 million for the three parcels.....Goldman Sachs expects to go ahead with development on two of its three parcels within a year or so, but probably won't build on the third for a few years. He said work will probably go forward soon on one of the two office towers planned for the parcels. Goldman Sachs was said to be determined to buy its own land and construct its own buildings rather than to lease space from waterfront developers such as Hartz Mountain, Mack-Cali Realty and the Lefrak Organization



Originally the tower was meant to be the centerpiece of an entire Goldman Sachs campus at Exchange Place, which was to include a training center, a university, and a large hotel complex. After many of the company's Manhattan-based equity traders refused to move their offices to New Jersey, the building's top 13 floors have remained vacant with no current plans for their occupation.

Too bad...

Originally Posted by macmini

Liberty Harbor North is twice the size of Atlantic Yards and their are plenty of smaller projects that don't get that much press .

You're so far off base, its amazing you even bother to post this nonsense.

[macmini]

Their is no need to continue going around in circles with you just keep the jobs coming.

Deutsche Bank to move 1,200 jobs to Jersey City
by David Jones

Deutsche Bank said Wednesday that it signed a 10-1/2-year lease for 228,000 square feet of office space on the Jersey City waterfront, and will relocate up to 1,200 workers from Manhattan by 2008.

The bank was awarded a $21.9 million grant from the New Jersey Economic Development Authority earlier this month, and is using the funds to more than double its existing offices at the Harborside Financial Center in Jersey City.

Financial terms were not disclosed.

Deutsche Bank has a number of leases that are due to expire soon, according to a source with knowledge of the agreement, however it was not yet clear which offices would be moved.

The bank has about 10,000 employees in the New York area, including 6,000 at 60 Wall St. -- the U.S. headquarters for the German investment bank. Deutsche Bank officials said no employees would be moved out of Lower Manhattan.

The firm previously had 90,000 square feet of office space at the Harborside complex, and is adding more than 138,000 square feet. The bank has 350 employees in New Jersey, with a majority based at the Harborside complex.

Cranford, N.J.-based Mack-Cali Realty Corp. owns the building, which is now 79% leased.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by macmini

Their is no need to continue going around in circles with you just keep the jobs coming.

Deutsche Bank to move 1,200 jobs to Jersey City
by David Jones

Deutsche Bank said Wednesday that it signed a 10-1/2-year lease for 228,000 square feet of office space on the Jersey City waterfront, and will relocate up to 1,200 workers from Manhattan by 2008. The bank was awarded a $21.9 million grant from the New Jersey Economic Development Authority earlier this month...

The bank has about 10,000 employees in the New York area, including 6,000 at 60 Wall St. -- the U.S. headquarters for the German investment bank. Deutsche Bank officials said no employees would be moved out of Lower Manhattan.

I guess it would be too much to ask that you crawl back under whatever rock you came out from, but you do know that NY will hardly feel that. Jersey City has been leeching off of Manhattan for years, we all know that. What you posted is the norm as far as that goes.

Just make sure the NETS are delivered to Brooklyn on time and without any damage.

[Kram]

Will you two talk about some ARCHITECTURE! You sound like two very small little boys. JC is on the way up and NYC just can't stand it. Good news for Jersey City. Is New York big enough to accept it?

[hoosier]

Originally Posted by Kram

Will you two talk about some ARCHITECTURE! You sound like two very small little boys. JC is on the way up and NYC just can't stand it. Good news for Jersey City. Is New York big enough to accept it?

Even though I don't live in New York, the city has NOTHING to worry about when it comes to Jersey City. NYC has the Ground Zero redevelopment which will put bring two 1300+ towers, the Atlantic yards proposal (MASSIVE residential/sports complex), the new Madison Square Garden/Penn Station proposal which could bring another 1000+ tower to NYC, plus the new Mets and Yankees stadiums, and that is just the tip of the iceberg.

It is nice to JC booming. I don't see NY hurting from JC's success.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Kram

Will you two talk about some ARCHITECTURE! You sound like two very small little boys. JC is on the way up and NYC just can't stand it. Good news for Jersey City. Is New York big enough to accept it?

How about you stay out of it, or waste your lone 1 post in some other thread.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by hoosier

Even though I don't live in New York, the city has NOTHING to worry about when it comes to Jersey City. It is nice to JC booming. I don't see NY hurting from JC's success.

New York is not hurting from JC's success. It was just noted that JC's success depends primarily on its proximity to Manhattan, which it leeches off.

Questions further arose because Goldman Sachs is already building a new headquarters in Manhattan, and its JC tower is less than half full. The question was, do they really intend to build now or are the pieces just being put in place in case they need to in the future. At the very least, they could always sell that land to another developer if they don't.

[Jularc]

Originally Posted by NYguy

New York is not hurting from JC's success. It was just noted that JC's success depends primarily on its proximity to Manhattan, which it leeches off.

I like your description of JC success. 'Leeches off.' Very true.

[macmini]

Originally Posted by NYguy

New York is not hurting from JC's success. It was just noted that JC's success depends primarily on its proximity to Manhattan, which it leeches off.

Questions further arose because Goldman Sachs is already building a new headquarters in Manhattan, and its JC tower is less than half full. The question was, do they really intend to build now or are the pieces just being put in place in case they need to in the future. At the very least, they could always sell that land to another developer if they don't.

For some one who is not bothered by Jersey City success you just can't seem to stop taking cheep shots. An lets not forget their was a time when NO one wanted to be in Manhattan and the city was bankrupt.

[mczamalek]

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[NYguy]

Originally Posted by macmini

For some one who is not bothered by Jersey City success you just can't seem to stop taking cheep shots. An lets not forget their was a time when NO one wanted to be in Manhattan and the city was bankrupt.

Really? If no one wanted to be in Manhattan, imagine how low Jersey City must have looked...

NO "cheep" shots, just the facts.

[NYguy]

JC Reporter

New 30-story Goldman Sachs tower approved
Planning Board hears concerns over office building

Ricardo Kaulessar
09/29/2006


The Jersey City Planning Board at its meeting on Sept. 19 approved a 30-story office tower by the financial firm Goldman Sachs of 50 Hudson St.

They also approved a public plaza between that new building and Goldman Sachs' existing 30 Hudson St. building.

The new building will be approximately 500 feet high, with 918,956 square feet including 21,380 sq. ft. of retail.

Originally, the building was planned for only 185 feet, but changes to the Colgate Redevelopment Plan, in which the proposed 50 Hudson St. building sits, were approved at the Planning Board's Aug. 16 meeting.

[sciguy0504]

Originally Posted by Kram

Will you two talk about some ARCHITECTURE! You sound like two very small little boys. JC is on the way up and NYC just can't stand it. Good news for Jersey City. Is New York big enough to accept it?

The city itself is big enough to accept it. Its residents, on the other hand, probably are not. It's the typical NYC attitude.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by sciguy0504

The city itself is big enough to accept it. Its residents, on the other hand, probably are not. It's the typical NYC attitude.

Yeah, and you know so much about it....

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Jularc

I like your description of JC success. 'Leeches off.' Very true.

You can see how priximity to Manhattan pays off very well for JC. The
skyline looks great from the waterfront, but not much to it beyond that.
However, I do think a 1,000 footer would look great behind the Goldman,
complementing the WTC and adding to the skyscraper metropolis...

(newyorkharborbeaches.org)

[TechTalkGuy]

Originally Posted by sciguy0504

The city itself is big enough to accept it. Its residents, on the other hand, probably are not. It's the typical NYC attitude.

Your remark is typical Philadelphia attitude (and I know because I grew up in Philly).

So get hoppin' on the Market Frankford "EL" to your Downtown and your construction sites.

Oh and by the way, Jersey City compliments New York, which is much more than I can say about how Camden (-compliments (not)-) Philly.

[oreoman85]

I love how JC compliments NYC. Most foreigners dont know that technically its not NYC, but physically it might as well be. Adds very well to the expansive metro, and its only growing and rapidly I might add.

[TechTalkGuy]

Yes, Jersey City is a part of the New York Region and it's population is counted officially as part of the whole.