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[Wpg_Guy]

Updated renderings of 173 Notre Dame

NOTRE TERRACE
Location: 173 Notre Dame St
Developer: Ironclad Developments Inc.
Architects:
Status:U/C
Description: 5-storey, 78 unit multi-family residential infill development in Old St. Boniface, replacing existing commercial warehouse/junk yard.

[Biff]

Kind of neat, that last render has 300 Main in it.

[EspionNoir]

Originally Posted by Biff

Kind of neat, that last render has 300 Main in it.

In my eyes it looks like a scaled-down version of the First Canadian Centre in Toronto with a different colour.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by Biff

Kind of neat, that last render has 300 Main in it.

I think their scaling is a wee bit off. It should appear slightly taller than it does.

[Wpg_Guy]

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[borkborkbork]

I feel like I don't understand this "belvedere" or whatever it is.

It was what, $10 million for 100 meters of walkway that gives you a vista of... well, basically the same thing as the sidewalk, but 10 meters closer to the river?

[michelleb]

I thought most of the money was going into riverbank stabilization.

[ywgwalk]

The sidewalk itself is also much wider now.

[pspeid]

Originally Posted by borkborkbork

I feel like I don't understand this "belvedere" or whatever it is.

It was what, $10 million for 100 meters of walkway that gives you a vista of... well, basically the same thing as the sidewalk, but 10 meters closer to the river?

I disagree. To me this is like saying "why build something a bit more interesting and attractive when we could have had something dull and utilitarian?" IMO it adds one more piece to an attractive riverside walkway with a very nice "postcard" view of the CMHR, the Promenade and the growing skyline. I can also see that vista being used in some of the TV/movie production being shot here.

I agree with "Belvedere", though. I know it's supposed to mean a walkway of some kind, but wasn't that a brand of cigarette at one time?

[Wpg_Guy]

Originally Posted by pspeid

I disagree. To me this is like saying "why build something a bit more interesting and attractive when we could have had something dull and utilitarian?" IMO it adds one more piece to an attractive riverside walkway with a very nice "postcard" view of the CMHR, the Promenade and the growing skyline. I can also see that vista being used in some of the TV/movie production being shot here.

I agree with "Belvedere", though. I know it's supposed to mean a walkway of some kind, but wasn't that a brand of cigarette at one time?

Or Vodka

[michelleb]

Originally Posted by pspeid

I agree with "Belvedere", though. I know it's supposed to mean a walkway of some kind, but wasn't that a brand of cigarette at one time?

Must be a generational thing, because I'd never heard of that. I thought of the 1980s TV butler.

[Biff]

I believe approximately $7.5 of the $10 million was for road and riverbank stabilization.

[buzzg]

The promenade is fantastic but they made one huge glaring error with it.

This is a shared AT path, yet there's no connection for bikes at the corner of Tache and Despins, or acutually on Tache at all for that matter. It's designed to connect the path behind Dominion Centre with the Esplanade, and it completely ignores people coming from South St. Boniface and Norwood Grove.

The corner of Tache and Despins is quite busy now and vehicles speed by there, it's very dangerous. A lot of the N-S bike routes through St. B/Norwood end on Despins, which should have a connection to the Promenade at this intersection, but instead there's a built up planter and bike racks wher ethe connection should be.

The only way for bikes (or anyone) to get from east of Tache onto the Promenade (from Despins) is to awkwardly turn left across busy traffic, and go on to the sidewalk south of the shed which doesn't line up with the regular sidewalk properly, then take a hard right turn at the riverbank. It's a terrible setup and frankly mind boggling how this was missed. There is one single access point, a regular sized sidewalk, between Goulet and Ave de la Cathedrale.

[optimusREIM]

Check out what they did to Club St B. Almost worthy of the Ugly Canada Thread

[Spocket]

^Almost?

Not that that's the only thing in Winnipeg that would qualify. Or any city for that matter. There's always some small scale butterface of a building nearby to point at that suggests somebody was drunk during the design phase.

[michelleb]

Originally Posted by buzzg

The promenade is fantastic but they made one huge glaring error with it.

This is a shared AT path, yet there's no connection for bikes at the corner of Tache and Despins, or acutually on Tache at all for that matter. It's designed to connect the path behind Dominion Centre with the Esplanade, and it completely ignores people coming from South St. Boniface and Norwood Grove.

The corner of Tache and Despins is quite busy now and vehicles speed by there, it's very dangerous. A lot of the N-S bike routes through St. B/Norwood end on Despins, which should have a connection to the Promenade at this intersection, but instead there's a built up planter and bike racks wher ethe connection should be.

The only way for bikes (or anyone) to get from east of Tache onto the Promenade (from Despins) is to awkwardly turn left across busy traffic, and go on to the sidewalk south of the shed which doesn't line up with the regular sidewalk properly, then take a hard right turn at the riverbank. It's a terrible setup and frankly mind boggling how this was missed. There is one single access point, a regular sized sidewalk, between Goulet and Ave de la Cathedrale.

Wow, that's awful. Maybe if the city had more than 20 people in the planning dept, they could pull off these projects without at least one massive screw-up every single time.

[plrh]

It looks like they should have just cut a ramp into that 12" curb north of the Flood Pump Station. I hate those tall curbs. They are tough for cyclists and pedestrians. If they wanted to severely restrict cars they should have used bollards.

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by plrh

It looks like they should have just cut a ramp into that 12" curb north of the Flood Pump Station. I hate those tall curbs. They are tough for cyclists and pedestrians. If they wanted to severely restrict cars they should have used bollards.

Yup, that's literally all it would take. It is honestly shocking at how this was missed. And to add some "humour to it" – where that cut should be there's like 10 bike racks. I can't fathom why you would really need a single one there, let alone that many.

It's actually on streetview already here. If you go back to an older date, you can see there was already a sidewalk right in the perfect spot before, just needed to add a curb cut.

[Wpg_Guy]

Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

Link: http://landmarkplanning.ca/project/7...evelopment.php
Developer: StreetSide Developments https://streetsidewinnipeg.com/
January 21, 2019 - Public Open House - Presentation Boards:http://landmarkplanning.ca/perch/res...n2019small.pdf

Background Information
StreetSide Developments, a local developer with several projects in St. Boniface, is currently preparing an application to rezone land so that it can eventually be developed as multi-family housing. StreetSide recognizes that nearby residents are stakeholders and may be interested in the redevelopment of this parcel. Landmark Planning & Design has been retained to lead this engagement process and planning process.

According to the latest open house on the potential development of this lot, the city has told this developer (StreetSide Developments) that they would not support a building higher than 7 storeys in this location. Of course design concept 1 has been selected has the preferred design (6 storey, long, wood frame), It's unfortunate that with the increased demand for higher density in this area that no developer can take advantage of the best views of the city.

Why is the city so restrictive with height limits, if any areas in the city could support highrise development it's Osborne and North St. Boniface, yet the city has imposed height restrictions in these neighborhoods of 4-7 storeys.


http://landmarkplanning.ca/perch/res...2019boards.pdf

[Wpg_Guy]

Turning Marion into a pedestrian high street couldn't be more appropriate for the area. It's too bad some of the new developements along the stretch were approved with such huge set backs and parking into front.

Norwood renewal
Historic St. Boniface hotel getting major makeover featuring French bistro-style restaurant, old-timey gaming lounge, outdoorsy tavern
By: Carol Sanders Posted: 08/14/2019 10:13 PM

A section of the Marion Street strip in St. Boniface is getting a new lease on life with a nod to neighbourhood nostalgia.

The owners of the historic Norwood Hotel are transforming a big chunk of the landmark inn with a new restaurant, tavern and gaming lounge.

"We are redeveloping 10,000 square feet of space," said Ben Sparrow, CEO of Winnipeg’s Sparrow Hotels, which owns the Norwood, Inn at The Forks and Mere Hotel in the Exchange District. The company is also in charge of food services at the Canadian Museum for Human Rights, including the Era restaurant, and the Inn at The Forks’ Riverstone Spa. "The facade is going to look completely different."

When the scaffolding comes down and the finishing touches are complete, customers on Sept. 30 will see a mix of Winnipeg history, contemporary design and hospitality, according to promotional materials from Sparrow Hotels, the company founded in 1937 by Merle Sparrow.

he French bistro-style restaurant, Pauline, is named for Pauline Boutal, a St. Boniface artist who became a fashion illustrator for Eaton’s in the 1920s. Murals and accents in Pauline will feature echoes of Boutal’s work and classic French colours of royal blue, white and cream.

The Wood Tavern, historically known as a neighbourhood hangout, is being overhauled to cater to a new generation of bar patrons, the hotel company said. It will have an outdoorsy decor with wood, stone, leather and brass with "camping-inspired cuisine."

The Carousel Gaming Lounge will be directly accessible from the street and have the "secret club" vibe of old-time casinos, with dark wood and upholstery and raw brick.

It could be a throwback to the original Norwood Hotel that opened in the late 1800s. When Prohibition came along in the 1920s, it was converted into a pool hall/apartment block. In 1937, Merle Sparrow — Ben Sparrow’s grandfather — bought the property and applied for a liquor licence.

It was one of the first bars in Winnipeg to allow women to drink alongside men, and one of the first to offer live entertainment. Beginning in the mid-’50s, organist Agnes Forsythe hosted a weekly talent show there for 17 years. Much later on, it was one of the first hotels in the city to ban smoking in its coffee shop and dining room.

In 1989, Merle Sparrow’s son Bob Sparrow expanded the Norwood to five storeys and 52 rooms. Even while construction crews were driving piles into the ground, he reportedly heard from naysayers, "Why bother? Who’s going to stay here, anyway?"

Today, the Norwood Hotel’s three new "concepts" join a number of changes to the neighbourhood. Businesses in the area are promoting Marion Street as a more "pedestrian-friendly" street, Sparrow said. That includes pushing to reduce the speed limit on a stretch of Marion Street to 50 kilometres per hour from 60.

"It’s a neighbourhood people are investing in," he said. The building at the corner of Marion Street and Tache Avenue was totally renovated, Sparrow said, and it is fully occupied with the Black Bird Brasserie, a coffee shop, a hair salon and tenants. Houses in the area are snapped up quickly when they’re on the market. Commuters living in the area can walk to work in the downtown.

"It’s a great neighbourhood and its proximity to downtown can’t be beat," Sparrow said.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bu...543395312.html


The Norwood Hotel’s new ‘concepts’ join the continuing evolution of Marion Street.




images Ruth Bonneville / Winnipeg Free Press files