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Old Posted Feb 15, 2019, 11:41 PM
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New construction building permit issued for a surface parking lot at Madison & Bishop, a block east of Ogden and just south of Union Park. Total of 32 units in 5 stories with ground floor retail. The owner on the permit is listed as the same address for the Pipefitters Local 597, which is right north of this on Washington/Ogden. Not sure if they're developing it or someone else.

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https://www.chicagotribune.com/busin...215-story.html

Tribune Media puts land along the river up for sale

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Tribune Media could sell the 37-acre tract of land it owns along the Chicago River that had been slated for redevelopment.

The broadcast company confirmed Friday that it has contracted with Eastdil Secured, a real estate brokerage, to list the property for sale. Eastdil Secured did not immediately return a call for comment.

In October, Tribune Media's plan to build more offices, a hotel and more than 4,000 residential units on the site along the river was approved by the City Council. Tribune Media called the project River District.
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Old Posted Feb 16, 2019, 3:55 PM
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February 15, 2019 11:56 AM UPDATED 10 HOURS AGO

Tribune Media puts North Branch megasite up for sale
The broadcast company is looking to cash out after winning city approval last fall to build an 8.5 million-square-foot campus along the Chicago River.

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Tribune Media is looking to cash out on a massive stretch of land it owns along the Chicago River after winning city approval to build a sprawling mixed-use campus on the site.

In a move that paves the way for the redevelopment of a high-profile chunk of downtown, the broadcast company confirmed it has hired the Chicago office of brokerage Eastdil Secured to sell its 30 acres along the North Branch of the river, where it won zoning approval last fall to develop an 8.5 million-square-foot megaproject it has dubbed "the River District."

The site, now home to the Chicago Tribune's Freedom Center printing plant, was one of the options the city of Chicago presented to Amazon in 2017 as the Seattle-based e-commerce giant began its search for a second headquarters location.
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"The site presents a qualified investor with the opportunity to develop a cutting-edge, skyline-defining mixed-use neighborhood located at the nexus of Chicago's densest office, residential and entertainment districts," the flyer says.
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Old Posted Feb 16, 2019, 9:49 PM
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^^Is this different from 700 West? I know Riverside Investment is/was also a part of that, is it still going or is it also up for sale?
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^^Is this different from 700 West? I know Riverside Investment is/was also a part of that, is it still going or is it also up for sale?
Yes, it is different. O'Donnell and Riverside control the site north of Chicago Ave which is a separate development. Seems like Riverside's attention is focused more on BofA Tower these days.
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Yes, it is different. O'Donnell and Riverside control the site north of Chicago Ave which is a separate development. Seems like Riverside's attention is focused more on BofA Tower these days.
That would make sense, thanks
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...-look-the-same

"near high rise densities, at wood-frame prices"

I've got one of these going up on my street... an affordable housing 7-story campaign contribution special.
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"near high rise densities, at wood-frame prices"

I've got one of these going up on my street... an affordable housing 7-story campaign contribution special.
As someone who has traveled to Sunbelt cities on more than a few occasions lately... holy crap am I happy that we have like 1/10th of those cheap-o developments going up compared to the Atlanta's, Dallas's, Austin's, and Houston's of the world!
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As someone who has traveled to Sunbelt cities on more than a few occasions lately... holy crap am I happy that we have like 1/10th of those cheap-o developments going up compared to the Atlanta's, Dallas's, Austin's, and Houston's of the world!
Tell me about it. I grew up in Dallas and there are plenty of neighborhoods that are significantly made up of these structures. Granted it's not impossible to make decent urban structures with these things, here are just a couple of examples I can think of from the neighborhood I grew up in. Unfortunately however, 99% of the time this is what’s typically produced.

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Tell me about it. I grew up in Dallas and there are plenty of neighborhoods that are significantly made up of these structures. Granted it's not impossible to make decent urban structures with these things, here are just a couple of examples I can think of from the neighborhood I grew up in. Unfortunately however, 99% of the time this is what’s typically produced.
Is that last photo from Plano near Dallas? I remember being in that area for a few days in 2016 or 2017 and everything looked like that. The transit system was a nice touch though. Went right up to where the Mavs play.

Also, Millie turned out way bigger than I expected
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As someone who has traveled to Sunbelt cities on more than a few occasions lately... holy crap am I happy that we have like 1/10th of those cheap-o developments going up compared to the Atlanta's, Dallas's, Austin's, and Houston's of the world!
I’m so happy that Chicago’s strict building code outlaws those crappy light frame wood yuppie boxes. They *can* have some design character added to them, but overall they make for bland streetscape, though I do appreciate the proliferation of them urbanizing traditionally post-war suburban areas. Even the mundane neighborhood infill here looks better than 90% of the low-mid rise Type V over Type II construction of the sunbelt and college towns.


Also, the gas station at 1750 N Western (next to the 606) is about to be demolished. They removal of a gas station for dense mixed-use urbanity is worthy of three dancing bananas
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^ I spend a lot of time in Denver which is a city with the opposite problem of Chicago. By that I mean it's a city built to be a small frontier Outpost that's busting at the seams to accommodate 2+ million and counting while Chicago is a city built to be the largest population center on earth that's now over a million residents from it's peak. The results arent pretty and involve an awful lot of disgusting buildings like that often just plopped down in neighborhoods full of historic single family homes or single story duplexes. They are everywhere there and some seem to be like two square blocks in area, like a miniature merchandise mart made of wood used to store people instead of housewares.
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Yes, it is different. O'Donnell and Riverside control the site north of Chicago Ave which is a separate development. Seems like Riverside's attention is focused more on BofA Tower these days.

BofA and BMO towers - given that we’re only a few months away from beginning of demo/site prep over at BMO....that’s A LOT on their plate (not to mention Union Station redevelopment itself)
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Meh...Those 5 over 1 stick frame apartments remind me of how the the burbs build those "lifestyle centers"or pseudo downtowns. Much like these new town centers can be an approvement over the box in a lot type experience, these new apartments can be seen as an improvement over some existing types of housing in the proper area. Look what they have to work with, I guess.
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2019, 4:20 PM
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Meh...Those 5 over 1 stick frame apartments remind me of how the the burbs build those "lifestyle centers"or pseudo downtowns. Much like these new town centers can be an approvement over the box in a lot type experience, these new apartments can be seen as an improvement over some existing types of housing in the proper area. Look what they have to work with, I guess.
Yeah but the problem is a lot of places have decent historic environments to work with and you will be walking along a nice one to three story historic pedestrian street and BAM six stories by two blocks wide of hot garbage. Like this is by my sisters house in Denver, you go from beautiful old Pearl Street:

https://goo.gl/maps/TeJr6cHAR9m

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https://goo.gl/maps/kc8vGZqdPDU2

That second streetview isn't even the half of it, they've since filled in all the vacant lots in that area with gargantuan (like 500+ units in some cases) buildings. None of it is really urban with stupid first floor apartments that have tiny little patios lining major commercial streets. I mean who wants a 4x8' patio directly fronting a six lane commercial artery? Why isn't there retail there instead given the fact that they are adding like 2000 apartments in this location? So instead Pearl Street and other older commercial streets in the area are going to get mugged by jimmy johns and planet fitnesses because the giant new buildings that are a perfect opportunity to provide huge modern spaces for those types of inevitable users instead have highly undesirable ground floor units.

It just defies logic, I have to give Chicago credit that, despite our podium problems and ongoing preservation issues, we tend to build largely in the mold of what we already have. Sure a nice historic two flat might bite the dust, but it's replaced by a six flat that more or less imitates the same configurations we were building 100 years ago. We have had issues, for example, with ground floor parking or lack of retail on Belmont East of the highway, but I'm over here in Avondale trying to organize armed resistance to developers trying to turn our stretch of Belmont into a "quiet residential side street". We've actually been very successful at forcing retail into the ground floor of almost all new developments. Some recent examples like the Honey Baked Ham site tried to do all ground floor residential, but we forced them to incorporate 50% retail, same goes for the corner of St Louis and Belmont, they tried to do all ground floor residential and we made them do retail, but gave them B2 zoning so they could at least temporarily rent the storefront out as live-work so it wouldn't sit vacant waiting for a tenant. Unfortunately I think newer cities like Denver lack the inspiration to stage such planning minded pushback. There's not the institutional memory of how a good urban street should look because so many residents are transplants and there are so few existing examples of truly pedestrian oriented urban streets to inspire the new residents as streets like Clark and Milwaukee inspired me upon moving here.

I mean just look at how miserable Mississippi St in Denver in my second link is turning out. It could EASILY be a brand new urban pedestrian street, but instead you have a gross auto sewer for all eternity.
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I’m so happy that Chicago’s strict building code outlaws those crappy light frame wood yuppie boxes. They *can* have some design character added to them, but overall they make for bland streetscape, though I do appreciate the proliferation of them urbanizing traditionally post-war suburban areas. Even the mundane neighborhood infill here looks better than 90% of the low-mid rise Type V over Type II construction of the sunbelt and college towns.
One is being built on my street now, so I don't think they are outlawed.

Steel Frame first floor, cinder block elevator core, and balloon wood frame up to 7 stories...
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Also, the gas station at 1750 N Western (next to the 606) is about to be demolished. They removal of a gas station for dense mixed-use urbanity is worthy of three dancing bananas
^ A reminder of what's being built here:

https://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/us/1750-n-western-avenue
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