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Old Posted Dec 8, 2018, 12:55 AM
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https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/...rginia/576313/

Amazon HQ2 and the ‘Gentrification of Jobs’
Amazon has said each HQ2 site will result in 25,000 jobs. Will the working-class benefit? Will Amazon train locals for future employment?






SARAH HOLDER


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“Only New Yorkers could complain about getting 25,000 new jobs,” comedian Colin Jost laughed on a recent episode of Saturday Night Live. “All the cities who lost out must be like, ‘shut up, you whiny bitches.’” The joke obviously referenced Amazon’s announcement that starting in 2019, the company will begin to grow two 25,000-employee offices; one in Long Island City, Queens, and another in Northern Virginia. (It will also put a 5,000-employee office in Nashville, Tennessee.)
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The New Yorkers who are fighting Amazon’s move aren’t job haters, they’ll tell you, even the ones that stood in the rain outside State Assemblywoman Catherine Nolan’s office last week, yelling “New York is not for sale.” Nor are Washingtonians and Virginians, even those who’ve opposed the project at Arlington county council meetings. The growing number of vocal Amazon NIMBYs are mostly not-shutting-up about everything else they fear a tech giant could mean for their neighborhoods—sky-high housing prices, clogged public transit, and squandered taxpayer money. Those factors have been projected to be anything from extreme to negligible in the already-booming cities, depending on who you ask.

But the impact of the burst of jobs itself is murkier still. “When we talk about bringing jobs to the community, we need to dig deep,” wrote New York’s U.S. Congresswoman-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter, days after the deal was announced. “Has the company promised to hire in the existing community? What's the quality of jobs + how many are promised? Are these jobs low-wage or high wage? Are there benefits? Can people collectively bargain?”
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New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio says they’ll be “new” and “good-paying.” Amazon says they’ll be salaried at an average of $150,000, and little else. Community organizers say they’ll be out of reach for the people that need them most. “We know Amazon will be contributing to gentrification of communities,” said Maritza Silva-Farrell, the executive director of The Alliance for a Greater New York. “As well as the gentrification of jobs.”

While Amazon didn’t comment on the distribution of the salaries nor the range of positions (even when CityLab requested comment), evidence from their first HQ in Seattle shows that many of the roles they hire for are high-level administrative and software engineering ones—meant for people with an advanced coding background, and usually a bachelor’s degree.
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But a corporate headquarters can’t operate on the labor of techies alone. It needs service workers, and administrative assistants, and IT specialists to keep the place running. Stephen Fuller, director of the Institute for Research on the Washington Region’s Economic Future, predicted in the Washingtonian that support staff could end up being a large quotient of the headquarters, creating thousands of “pretty good jobs,” ranging from security to equipment servicing and building management.
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At a presentation for Queens residents late last month, the New York City Economic Development Corporation said that only half of the Amazon jobs would be tech-related, according to the Washington Business Journal; and the Virginia Economic Development Partnership has said the Virginia jobs will be similarly distributed.

“When we talk about the tech sector it’s important to think more broadly,” said Elizabeth Lindsey, the executive director of Byte Back, a D.C.-based non-profit that trains underserved communities in the district with tech and computer skills. “Not everyone wants to be a software engineer.”
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Amazon’s choice to locate in two “superstar cities” has been criticized as a missed opportunity to invest in somewhere needier: New York already hosts the most corporate headquarters (and the accompanying revenue) of any city in the country, and the D.C. region isn’t far behind. “This is an inevitability of how tech works,” said Mark Muro, Senior Fellow and Policy Director at the Brookings Institute Metropolitan Policy Program. “Leave tech to its own devices, and its location decisions will serve to pile onto the places it is already.”

But the choice, however strategic, has another consequence. Both immediate regions already rank high on employment metrics: Arlington has a 2 percent unemployment rate, the lowest of any jurisdiction in Virginia; and Long Island City’s is 4.6 percent, lower than New York City’s and only slightly above the 4.1 percent national rate.

“A lot of people talk about ‘Oh, it’s going to hire locally,’” said Abraham. “There’s not enough people to hire locally.” Instead, he fears, they’ll be flown in from out of state, eating up housing as they come.
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In the agreements with Virginia and New York, Amazon seemed to account for more jobs than the initial 25,000: In Virginia’s agreement, the company estimated that, after a second hiring phase, a total of 37,850 could be created; and New York’s also indicated a potential for 40,000 total new jobs within 15 years of entering the city.

.....But the most important part of linking people with good jobs is training them to fill them, says Catherine Bracy, the executive director and co-founder of the Tech Equity Collaborative, a Silicon Valley organizing group. Cities have to ask, “Do people have the skills to compete in the 21st century economy?” And, if not, “are there the social supports that can help them get through the transition?” In other words: how strong is your workforce development program, and how can you make it stronger?

New York’s agreement nodded to that priority. Together, the state, the city, and the company have pledged $15 million total towards workforce development starting in 2020; $5 million of it will be from Amazon.

Amazon will send representatives to jobs fairs and resume workshops in the Queensbridge Houses starting in 2020. (They're only held to the contract for three years, though—after that, it’s up to the company to continue the partnership.)
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The programming also “may include” partnerships with city technology training programs, and third-party organizations like Pursuit, which trains high-need New Yorkers (including public housing residents) with technical skills. “With Amazon coming here to Queens, Pursuit’s job here is to try to bring the community to Amazon,” says Jukay Hsu, Pursuit’s Founder & CEO.

New York City council speaker Corey Johnson, who has been vocally opposed to the Amazon deal, has expressed faith in Pursuit but not in Amazon. “Speaker Johnson hopes that Pursuit’s proposed partnership with Amazon proves fruitful in terms of bringing jobs to low-income residents of Long Island City and Queensbridge Houses,” the spokesperson said. “But [he] remains concerned about the entire Amazon deal in terms of its lack of public input and level of subsidy.”
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2018, 3:21 AM
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Amazon HQ2 and the ‘Gentrification of Jobs’
Amazon has said each HQ2 site will result in 25,000 jobs. Will the working-class benefit? Will Amazon train locals for future employment?






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I am frustrated to keep seeing this failed argument. What people seem to want is high paying low skill or like mentioned high paying jobs in which the employer pays for all the training. High pay low skill jobs are lots of the jobs going away. If you want to advance to a high pay job needs you need advance your skills to that level. Be glad high pay jobs are available and be something you can work towards. Cities fight over high paying jobs for a reason.

I can't speak for New York but I know locally where I live that colleges have programs that align to major local jobs. Those same colleges have programs to help pay for if not cover the full cost of those programs as well. Job prep programs exist as well as sort of a boot camp into some careers as well. Like the colleges many of those programs help pay for if not cover the full cost as well. So any time I hear people complaining about not being able to get a higher paying job and the excuses of not being able to gain the skills I point to these programs. I know more than a few people that have used them to advance themselves and with many of them coming from the same of similar situations as the people complaining.

The locals just got a gift of 25,000 plus high paying jobs coming in the coming years. Find out the advance skills you will need and start working on those. Then go for those jobs. Or well stay complaining, not investing the effort into yourself and be stuck with lower paying jobs.

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^ I agree with much of what you said. Not all jobs are going to be the highest paying jobs. I know in New York there is talk of the "living wage", and the cost of living in the city is very expensive. The partnership with Amazon seems to also rely at least in part on some job training...



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At a presentation for Queens residents late last month, the New York City Economic Development Corporation said that only half of the Amazon jobs would be tech-related...

Together, the state, the city, and the company have pledged $15 million total towards workforce development starting in 2020; $5 million of it will be from Amazon......

The programming also “may include” partnerships with city technology training programs, and third-party organizations like Pursuit, which trains high-need New Yorkers (including public housing residents) with technical skills. “With Amazon coming here to Queens, Pursuit’s job here is to try to bring the community to Amazon,” says Jukay Hsu, Pursuit’s Founder & CEO.



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https://www.crainsnewyork.com/op-ed/...ew-queens-home

How Amazon can build a talent pipeline in its new Queens home
Local residents have the grit to succeed, but need a long-term commitment from the company


Gail O. Mellow
Dec 6, 2018


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Amazon’s decision to come to Long Island City, and its promise of more than 25,000 jobs, will only magnify changes to this once bustling industrial area that is already undergoing a major transformation.

The question that our Queens institutions—LaGuardia Community College and youth-services provider Riis Settlement House—are asking is how to welcome Amazon while simultaneously preserving the diversity and vibrancy of our community, where people of all ages and disparate socioeconomic backgrounds live and work. And the question for Amazon, and for city and state leaders that have given the company significant financial incentives to locate here, is simple: Who benefits?
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To reap the full benefits, and to ensure they are shared, we must think bigger, smarter and longer-term. This moment, as Amazon places its bet on Long Island City, creates an opportunity to reimagine where and how tech talent is created. If we don’t, Amazon will likely turn to traditional talent creators—MIT, Stanford, UT Austin, Carnegie Mellon and the like—to meet its growing workforce needs.

It starts in Amazon’s new backyard. At local colleges including LaGuardia and in public housing projects where Riis Settlement House is located, New Yorkers seek to land well-paying jobs that allow them to demonstrate their talents while making better lives for themselves and their families. These neighborhood residents—incredibly diverse, largely low-income, often first in their family to attend college—have the grit and determination to succeed but need the high-quality classroom learning and substantive out-of-classroom experiences that can ready them for Amazon employment.
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Amazon needs to make an enduring investment in the local education and training of its future workforce. It means an ongoing commitment to collaborating with and supporting educational institutions. Job fairs and résumé workshops are not enough.

....LaGuardia Community College and other area colleges must look at the full spectrum of employment opportunities at Amazon and begin to match up, in granular detail, its workforce needs with academic programs. A corporate headquarters requires not only coders and programmers but everything from building security to event planners to accountants. If $150,000 is the average annual salary, there must be $75,000 jobs for which a doctorate in computer science is not required.

....students require internships to expand their skill-sets and learn how to succeed in a corporate setting. Unfortunately, low-income students are often locked out of nonpaying internships. Amazon should blow open its doors, moving away from its usual recruiting pools and creating learning opportunities for nontraditional potential hires to become part of the emerging tech ecosystem.

....let’s rethink what we mean by “infrastructure.” There’s lots of talk about the pressure Amazon will place on our subways. But what if we paid attention to the investment in human capital that made Amazon interested in coming to New York City? What if Amazon, joined by the city and state, reframes what we mean by infrastructure spending and makes substantial investments in building talent?


Gail O. Mellow is president of By LaGuardia Community College. Christopher Hanway is executive director of the Jacob A. Riis Neighborhood Settlement.
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That is wonderful the local institutions are quickly working towards aligning with Amazon and ecosystem of jobs that will be created in support of and because of Amazon. Even if some of the locals can't make the jump to the top paying jobs attainable better paying jobs will be within reach with effort. Amazon helping assist with some of this is to its benefit but the community itself needs to step up and self improve to fully benefit. I am glad to see at least some aspects already are.
     
     
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That is wonderful the local institutions are quickly working towards aligning with Amazon and ecosystem of jobs that will be created in support of and because of Amazon. Even if some of the locals can't make the jump to the top paying jobs attainable better paying jobs will be within reach with effort. Amazon helping assist with some of this is to its benefit but the community itself needs to step up and self improve to fully benefit. I am glad to see at least some aspects already are.

It's all still in the early stages, but just the fact that Amazon is coming and building that campus of jobs should be incentive enough for those who would want to work there.

The interesting thing is that, while it's easy for pandering politicians to complain about the development now, it will be a different story when the jobs are actually moving in. That begins as early as next year at Court Square. Meanwhile, Amazon already has the approval of the majority. We'll see who flip flops.
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In line with the city's own poll.


https://www.recode.net/platform/amp/...s-happy-survey

Surprise! Two-thirds of U.S. residents would have been happy to have their city win Amazon’s HQ2
Most don’t think the split second headquarters is a big deal.


By Rani Molla
December 7, 2018


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While it might seem from news coverage and social media that Amazon’s second headquarters decision angered the public, people were much more likely to favor the decision than to have a negative opinion of it, according to a survey conducted for Recode by the consumer research company Toluna. Indeed, the majority of Americans said they would have wanted one of Amazon’s HQ2 complexes to be based in their city.
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Of those who were aware of Amazon’s decision, 67 percent of respondents in the U.S. said they would have been happy if Amazon had chosen their home area for an HQ2. Those people overwhelmingly cited jobs (92 percent) as the reason for their approval, while nearly 60 percent said investment in public works and infrastructure improvements was their reason.
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Americans were evenly split on whether it was okay for cities and states to give Amazon billions of dollars in tax breaks. Some 40 approved while 39 percent didn’t, according to the survey.

These results fall in line with a recent, more localized poll conducted by Quinnipiac University. In that study, 60 percent of registered voters in Queens approved of the decision to host an Amazon HQ2 in its Long Island City. It should be noted, however, that nearly half of Queens residents are foreign-born, so they may be less likely than the population at large to be citizens and able to vote. Foreign-born immigrants who are not U.S. citizens, including green card holders, are not eligible to vote in New York City, where the poll was conducted.
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NYC is a great place, but some folks are just spoiled. Only in America would folks bitch AND protest vigorously about 25,000+ high paying jobs. Other cities literally bent over for the prospect, and here we have a great opportunity, and folks are complaining.

So long as the gears of Capitalism are running, this is nothing new. More business is good for the population.

We can't cater to the unenlightened half-wits who quite frankly don't have the skill sets to work at these jobs.

Hard work, and merit must persist. For many, this will be a great opportunity. For those that are lazy, and expect to be spoon-fed, this will damage their ego.
     
     
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We can't cater to the unenlightened half-wits who quite frankly don't have the skill sets to work at these jobs.

Hard work, and merit must persist. For many, this will be a great opportunity. For those that are lazy, and expect to be spoon-fed, this will damage their ego.
Go ahead and hyperbolize why don't ya .
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meanwhile, the city is hassling the strand bookshop with landmarking:


Another rich twist, Ms. Wyden said, was that the move coincides with the announcement that Amazon — not exactly beloved by brick-and-mortar booksellers — plans to open a headquarters in Queens, after city and state leaders offered upwards of $2 billion in incentives to Amazon and its multibillionaire chief executive, Jeff Bezos.

“The richest man in America, who’s a direct competitor, has just been handed $3 billion in subsidies. I’m not asking for money or a tax rebate,” Ms. Wyden said. “Just leave me alone.”


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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/n...dmark.amp.html
     
     
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We can't cater to the unenlightened half-wits who quite frankly don't have the skill sets to work at these jobs.

Hard work, and merit must persist. For many, this will be a great opportunity. For those that are lazy, and expect to be spoon-fed, this will damage their ego.
I agree.
     
     
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meanwhile, the city is hassling the strand bookshop with landmarking:


Another rich twist, Ms. Wyden said, was that the move coincides with the announcement that Amazon — not exactly beloved by brick-and-mortar booksellers — plans to open a headquarters in Queens, after city and state leaders offered upwards of $2 billion in incentives to Amazon and its multibillionaire chief executive, Jeff Bezos.

“The richest man in America, who’s a direct competitor, has just been handed $3 billion in subsidies. I’m not asking for money or a tax rebate,” Ms. Wyden said. “Just leave me alone.”


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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/n...dmark.amp.html

They're hassling a lot of folks with landmarking.




https://www.brickunderground.com/ren...ity-amazon-HQ2

NYC neighborhoods that offer easy commutes to Amazon's future HQ2 in Long Island City





DECEMBER 6, 2018
BY MIMI O'CONNOR


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You've probably heard that Amazon is coming to Long Island City. With construction to begin as early as 2020 and as many as 25,000 new hires on the way, Long Island City is red hot real estate right now. (The company will also install some Amazonians in the existing One Court Square.)

It's so hot, that not every new employee is going to be able to find a place to live in the sizzling Queens neighborhood, either due to high prices or lifestyle preference. (Not everyone wants to live in a new high-rise or considers a plentiful dating pool negotiable when evaluating spots to live.)

Which got us to thinking: What are the top neighborhoods to live in for an easy commute to Long Island City?
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Perhaps the obvious choice, the neighborhood immediately to the northeast is attractive for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is the fact that it is well established with a variety of housing options. “It’s a mature community. It has everything. It’s been a full, complete neighborhood for a long time,” says Whalen, who notes that the high-density area has housing stock that includes multi- and single-family houses, as well as new developments.
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Sunnyside
Astoria may be the most obvious, but Sunnyside is the buzziest. “Sunnyside all the way. It is the most undervalued neighborhood in Queens easily. You can find really good deals in Sunnyside,” says Lauren Bennett, a Corcoran agent who herself just bought a condo in the neighborhood (and is moving from Long Island City).

“Sunnyside is a hidden gem in my opinion,” says Emery. “It’s the slightly more affordable alternative to Astoria and it has its fair share of amazing restaurants, bars, and cafes. You also get great views of LIC and Midtown Manhattan when waiting for your train on the elevated tracks.”
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Forest Hills/Rego Park
Yes, these neighborhoods are further out, but they too, have several things going for them. “Forest Hills is always a strong market, says Whalen. “It’s convenient, it’s charming, it has a community vibe. It’s among the walkable communities, so it’s very desirable.” Both neighborhoods will have easy access to HQ2 via the R, F, and E lines, that last of which will get you to LIC in about 30 minutes. (Bonus: Forest Hills residents could even hop on the LIRR if they wanted.)

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Williamsburg, Greenpoint, and other points along the G
While these are hardly under-the-radar (quite the opposite), those with deep pockets and an appetite for the good life should look to nearby Greenpoint, and Williamsburg. Josh Young, director of market rate leasing for Clinton Management, which operates Level BK and 1 North Fourth, points to the wealth of conveniences and diversions in the areas.

“There’s culture, bars, restaurants, and shops,” he says, while also noting that in addition to taking the G to get to Long Island City in about 15 minutes, people living near the waterfront ferry stop in Williamsburg can commute by the NYC Ferry operated by Hornblower if they wish.
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Murray Hill
It’s not all about Brooklyn and Queens; consider thinking outside the outer borough. As Jessica Kaufman, a broker at Citi Habitats says, Murray Hill has a lot to offer Amazon HQ2 employees, and (possible bonus) it’s in Manhattan.

“Murray Hill is an established residential neighborhood—and there are tons of coffee shops, restaurants and other amenities on every block—essentials which can be hard to find in LIC. In addition, Murray Hill offers a selection of full-service buildings at reasonable price points.”

The 7 train gets you to Long Island City in about 20 minutes, and a ferry is an option in the area as well (there’s a stop at 34th Street).
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/10/n...er-queens.html

What Happens When 25,000 Amazon Workers Flush Toilets?


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Dec. 10, 2018


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Amazon says its new headquarters in Long Island City, Queens, will bring 25,000 jobs. It will also bring more crowds, more noise and, yes, more toilet flushing.

It might seem mundane, but what happens in the bathroom matters: New York, for all its modern conveniences, sits atop a century-old sewage system used by more people than ever before. Every time someone flushes, washes their hands or takes a shower, all that household wastewater (and worse) flows down into 7,500 miles of sewer pipes. Most of these pipes also do double duty, collecting rainwater runoff from rooftops as well as streets.
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When these sewer pipes get clogged by humans — flushing baby wipes anyone? — or simply overloaded with rainwater, it becomes everyone’s problem. The “combined sewer overflows” are discharged directly into nearby rivers, bays and creeks instead of going to wastewater treatment plants.

Long Island City residents say these backups and overflows already happen whenever it rains hard — and 25,000 more Amazon workers will only make the problem worse. But city officials say they are ready to take on whatever comes down the pipes. Here is why.
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2.5 million gallons of wastewater

A New Yorker typically uses 100 gallons of water per day, from showering and brushing teeth to washing dishes and clothes, according to the city. All that water goes into the sewer pipes.

By that math, 25,000 Amazon workers will produce 2.5 million gallons of wastewater per day. While that sounds like a lot, it is actually not by city standards.

For context, about 1.3 billion gallons of wastewater pass daily through the entire sewage system on rainless days. Even when it rains, the system can handle up to 3.8 billion gallons of wastewater per day.
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Bigger Pipes for Sewage

Amazon’s wastewater will flow into pipes that are bigger than those found in most residential neighborhoods. Long Island City is a former industrial area, so its pipes once handled the output from factories and businesses.

These sewer pipes are also in relatively good shape, said Vincent Sapienza, commissioner of the city’s Department of Environmental Protection. The oldest pipes date to the 1900s, while others were added in the 1920s when construction was planned for the entrance to the Queens-Midtown Tunnel. The rest came decades later.
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Room at the Treatment Plant

Nearly all of Long Island City’s wastewater is whisked away to the Bowery Bay Wastewater Treatment Plant in Astoria, Queens, one of the city’s 14 sewage treatment plants.

Currently, the Bowery Bay plant processes about 100 million gallons of wastewater each day. It can handle much more — up to 150 million gallons a day — leaving plenty of room for Amazon’s wastewater, city officials said.

“Even if there’s an influx of 25,000 people, that’s only 2.5 million gallons more a day,” Mr. Sapienza said.

“It’s not much. In the scheme of things, it’s not a big difference.”
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But What Happens When It Rains?

Heavy rains, however, can upend the city’s sewage calculations. In Long Island City, as in many other neighborhoods, sewer lines can fill up with so much rainwater runoff that there are combined sewer overflows.

Citywide, about 20 billion gallons of combined sewer overflows are discharged annually into local waterways. Still, that is an improvement from nearly 110 billion gallons annually in 1985. The overflows can trigger beach closings and restrictions on recreational water use.
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What’s the City Doing?

A 2012 city rule requires new developments to take measures to retain significant amounts of rainwater on site, such as using green roofs and porous pavements. As a result, city officials said, Amazon’s new headquarters would be an improvement over older buildings — and could actually end up reducing rainwater runoff in the sewage system.

City officials pointed to significant progress in reducing rainwater runoff — and the resulting overflows — across the city in recent decades. In fact, they like to say that New York waters have not been this clean since the Civil War.
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Even before the Amazon deal, the city’s Economic Development Corporation announced $95 million for water and sewer improvements in the neighborhood. Officials also pointed to years of city efforts to lay the groundwork for development in the neighborhood, including opening a new section of Hunters Point South Park along the East River in June that serves as a buffer against storm surges.

An Amazon official said the company has not yet begun to design its buildings and will address infrastructure needs during the environmental review process. In Seattle, where Amazon is based, its buildings have green roofs and low-flow fixtures in the restrooms, and capture rainwater to use to water the landscape.
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Amazon protest planned ahead of first City Council hearing on HQ2 in Queens
Activists are planning to take to the City Hall steps on Wednesday to protest Amazon coming to Long Island City.


By Kristin Toussaint
December 10, 2018


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Activists will take to the streets Wednesday morning for another Amazon protest ahead of the New York City Council’s first of three hearings on Amazon HQ2 in Queens.

Called the “Rally to stop the Amazon #HQ2Scam,” the protest is organized by NYC Democratic Socialists of America Tech Action, Primed Out NYC, Make the Road New York, Food & Water Watch and other nonprofits.

Queens residents and other community members across the five boroughs who are against the tech giant setting up in Long Island City will gather at City Hall at 9 a.m. Wednesday, Dec. 12.
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“On Wednesday, City Council is holding a hearing to look into how this bad deal for New York was made behind closed doors,” the Amazon protest event page reads. “At a time when our transit system is falling apart, when our city is facing a crisis in affordability, and when immigrants and workers are under attack, New York City cannot afford this deal.”

That first hearing on Amazon HQ2 in Queens will be through the Economic Development Committee and will ask questions about the specific Amazon HQ2 in Queens site and how the deal between the company and the city played out.
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^ “Immigrants and workers are under attack” ...from 25,000 jobs?

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^ “Immigrants and workers are under attack” ...from 25,000 jobs?

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It’s the words of one person. I don’t see how that applies to “the left”. There were many Democrats involved in getting Amazon to come to NYC in the first place.
     
     
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Yes, please stop associating these folks with the greater poli sci "left".... thank you. I'd describe this group of ill-informed people as pitchfork populism, of which I abhor as much as their right wing reactionary counterparts. Fools are fools.
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https://therealdeal.com/2018/12/11/i...tch-to-amazon/

Inside New York’s pitch to Amazon
In a joint city and state proposal, sites were offered from Hudson Valley down to 3 World Trade Center and The Farley Building






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As part of the bidding process the state’s Empire State Development and the city’s Economic Development Corporation offered up to $3 billion in tax breaks and a dozen sites in the state, including several in the city, according to the Wall Street Journal. Among the city sites offered were the Farley Building in Midtown West, 3 World Trade, and space along the Brooklyn waterfront. The company also had its selection from sites on Long Island and the lower Hudson Valley.

The state’s ESD also offered to obtain property for the e-commerce giant in a bid to sweeten the deal.
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“Subject to public approvals, ESD is empowered to acquire, encumber and dispose of any real property interest, including through eminent domain,” the proposal reportedly stated. “ESD can also override local zoning, offer tax subsidies while holding title to a property, and provide lower-cost financing or grants to economic development projects.”

The proposal was released ahead of a series of City Council hearings on the HQ2 bidding process. The efforts in 2017 has been criticized by local politicians and activists for being conducted in secret.

“We wanted to be fully transparent about actions we have taken on this project to date,” the EDC said in a statement to the Journal.
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In Long Island City, the rents were much cheaper than other New York city sites, reportedly ranging from $24 to $49 a square foot.
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How New York won Amazon: See the official proposals for each NYC neighborhood

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