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Old Posted Apr 15, 2019, 5:41 PM
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National media's synopsis on Jason Kenney's UCP


LINK - https://www.macleans.ca/politics/wha...y-and-the-ucp/

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Old Posted Apr 15, 2019, 5:53 PM
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LINK - https://www.macleans.ca/politics/6-t...-albertas-ucp/

The article provides a concise paragraph on each of the following critical elements Maclean's has selected as critical to pointing out about UCP leader Jason Kenney. I'd encourage a full read:
  1. He’s not such an amazing campaigner, after all
  2. Revenge fuels their electorate
  3. He was accessible to media—up to a point
  4. Investigations will dog a Kenney government from Day One
  5. The UCP will legislate on social issues
  6. Kenney might be a bigger drag on the party than expected
LINK - https://www.macleans.ca/politics/6-t...-albertas-ucp/

How would you rank the above six as being the most critical?


I'd go 4, 5, 2, 6, 1, 3
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2019, 6:08 PM
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A reflection on elections of the past ...


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Old Posted Apr 15, 2019, 6:52 PM
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The massive increased sales to Japan were specifically resulting from decreasing of tariffs as negotiated in the TPP. As it stands, the TPP resulted in an immediate cut of 11% in the Japanese tariffs on Canadian beef, while maintaining the tariff level for the USA.

The increase in beef export to China is indeed massive, but that is the case for all people exporting to China. It is a result of a demand / supply imbalance that has increased beef prices there substantially. That doesn't take away from the TPP success with respect to Japan, and I'm happy UCalgary's Trevor Tombe pointed out this specific success.



According to extensive articles in the Wall Street Journal and the Financial Times, even the Americans are admitting that Canadian beef sales to Japan are booming due to the TPP and that the USA has been left out.

Trans-Pacific Trade Party Is Raging on Without the U.S.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trans-p...-s-11555164181

Canadian beef producers enjoy TPP trade boost
https://www.ft.com/content/667a5faa-...b-ff8ef2b976c7

The TPP success for Canada at the cost of the USA has even been reported in the Japan Times.

Pacific trade deal spurs Canadian farm sales to Japan as U.S. looks on
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...pan-u-s-looks/

I don't get Jawagord. Why are you so anti-Canadian economy? ... to the point that you attempt to cast doubt on such clear successes even in the face of a massive amount of fact!
Nothing in my post is anti-Canadian economy, exactly the opposite I’ve shown “goods news” on beef sales extends beyond TTP countries.

The real question is why are you double posting this to the Alberta election thread, when you already posted it on the Canadian Economy thread where it belonged?
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2019, 7:30 PM
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why are you double posting this to the Alberta election thread, when you already posted it on the Canadian Economy thread where it belonged?
The relevance is quite direct. I posted it to the provincial economies thread within the Canada section, because it is a positive national story.

I posted it to the Alberta elections thread, because the positive economic impact of broadening our markets and putting down economic barriers has directly impacted Alberta exports, and economy is an important part of the provincial election rhetoric.

Economy is very front of mind of the electorate, particularly given the potential burden of the common resident of this province to provide tax relief to those who many over $500,000 per year.

Should you remain confused, you can read about it here. Let me know if you have questions:
https://www.macleans.ca/politics/wha...y-and-the-ucp/
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2019, 8:34 PM
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The relevance is quite direct. I posted it to the provincial economies thread within the Canada section, because it is a positive national story.

I posted it to the Alberta elections thread, because the positive economic impact of broadening our markets and putting down economic barriers has directly impacted Alberta exports, and economy is an important part of the provincial election rhetoric.

Economy is very front of mind of the electorate, particularly given the potential burden of the common resident of this province to provide tax relief to those who many over $500,000 per year.

Should you remain confused, you can read about it here. Let me know if you have questions:
https://www.macleans.ca/politics/wha...y-and-the-ucp/
Jen Gerson with her not so subtle cheerleading for the NDP is not a source anyone should refer to if they're confused. Your doing so helps to explain why you're so confused and dead wrong about this election.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2019, 8:56 PM
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Jen Gerson with her not so subtle cheerleading for the NDP is not a source anyone should refer to if they're confused. Your doing so helps to explain why you're so confused and dead wrong about this election.
The clearest indicator of hollow rhetoric is a response that doesn't argue against the substance provided, but rather is a ad hominem against the journalist. Pathetic.
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Seems a bit unfair to dismiss the points of the article because it is favourable to the NDP. Gerson is typically leans conservative - to discount that article as cheerleading and therefore not worthy of consideration doesn't make a lot of sense.

If something she is wrong, then you are welcome to argue against it. If the source is misleading - then tell us how. Shrugging it off because it comes to conclusions different from your own comes across as a copout more than anything.
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LINK - https://www.macleans.ca/politics/6-t...-albertas-ucp/

The article provides a concise paragraph on each of the following critical elements Maclean's has selected as critical to pointing out about UCP leader Jason Kenney. I'd encourage a full read:
  1. He’s not such an amazing campaigner, after all
  2. Revenge fuels their electorate
  3. He was accessible to media—up to a point
  4. Investigations will dog a Kenney government from Day One
  5. The UCP will legislate on social issues
  6. Kenney might be a bigger drag on the party than expected
LINK - https://www.macleans.ca/politics/6-t...-albertas-ucp/

How would you rank the above six as being the most critical?


I'd go 4, 5, 2, 6, 1, 3
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2019, 10:26 PM
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The relevance is quite direct. I posted it to the provincial economies thread within the Canada section, because it is a positive national story.

I posted it to the Alberta elections thread, because the positive economic impact of broadening our markets and putting down economic barriers has directly impacted Alberta exports, and economy is an important part of the provincial election rhetoric.

Economy is very front of mind of the electorate, particularly given the potential burden of the common resident of this province to provide tax relief to those who many over $500,000 per year.

Should you remain confused, you can read about it here. Let me know if you have questions:
https://www.macleans.ca/politics/wha...y-and-the-ucp/
So on the last day of the election campaign dipper supporters realize, “it’s the economy, stupid”! And the best “positive” economic news is more beef sales to Japan? Best prepare yourself for tomorrow evenings results, it might be the last we see of the scarecrow.
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NDP support is up one point to 40% but UCP support is up 3 points to 50% according to an IPSOS poll conducted from 4/11 to 4/14. NDP only leads in Edmonton and is getting killed outside of the two major cities.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5167276/a...ap-not-enough/
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2019, 11:19 PM
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NDP support is up one point to 40% but UCP support is up 3 points to 50% according to an IPSOS poll conducted from 4/11 to 4/14. NDP only leads in Edmonton and is getting killed outside of the two major cities.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5167276/a...ap-not-enough/
There is no doubt that the UCP is well ahead, and will most likely win a majority by a wide margin. I'm thinking they'll be pushing 70 seats. It is a shame, but I'm not one to question reality. Sighhhh.
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So on the last day of the election campaign dipper supporters realize, “it’s the economy, stupid”! And the best “positive” economic news is more beef sales to Japan? Best prepare yourself for tomorrow evenings results, it might be the last we see of the scarecrow.
Jawagord - I'm been posting virtually from day 1 that the 1/3rd tax cut for people making over $500K per year will be an economic killer for Alberta. The average Albertan will be on the hook for the resulting $5B that will transfer to the rich, and it will be extracted by a massive squeeze on health, education, and with the reduction in minimum wage (thus increasing the number of people living below the poverty line). Yeah, it is the economy, stupid.
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Lady caught blue handed taking away all but the UCP signs (outside of larger signs she couldn't take in her vehicle). Absolutely pathetic Corndogger and Jawgord. You two still haven't taught on to the fact that its ethics and humanity first, before anything else. I'm not sure if you're all from the "same stock" as our Cardston UCP candidates tout, but for your sake I hope not.


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So on the last day of the election campaign dipper supporters realize, “it’s the economy, stupid”! And the best “positive” economic news is more beef sales to Japan? Best prepare yourself for tomorrow evenings results, it might be the last we see of the scarecrow.
I care deeply about the economy. That's why I'm not voting UCP.
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According to Elections Alberta votes cast in advanced polls from within the electoral division will be counted tomorrow night. The ones cast outside of the electoral division will start to be counted at 1PM on 4/17 and could take several days to verify. There were 223K such votes. According to the law ballot boxes can't be opened until the polls close tomorrow night at 8PM.

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Just a reminder, from 2012:



And that second place party ended up winning 61 seats, while the first place party won 17...
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NDP support is up one point to 40% but UCP support is up 3 points to 50% according to an IPSOS poll conducted from 4/11 to 4/14. NDP only leads in Edmonton and is getting killed outside of the two major cities.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5167276/a...ap-not-enough/
It the NDP can get between 35-40% then that's a pretty amazing achievement after being in power for a term in a normally conservative province.

It also would show that Jason Kenney wasn't able to attract support from the NDP which should be a huge concern for the UCP. I am already shocked that so many people would vote for the UCP with Kenney as leader but then again, I live in the province where Doug Ford became Premier. It's not all about the leader of course as we do vote for our MLAs/MPPs.

Rachel Notley gave Alberta a better name outside Alberta. With Kenney, I get the feeling that he won't last very long as Premier and that members of his own party will be irritated by him.

If the predictions hold true, ALL first ministers in Canada will be MALE. That's very sad and pathetic but it happens. I hope that Notley stays on as opposition leader.
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