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Old Posted Nov 14, 2006, 12:58 AM
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2006, 1:16 AM
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Well, I guess I will need to change my diagram now. Any idea at all where the extra height is added in?

Even from the renderings it is hard to get the real impact this baby will have on the skyline.. especially from the west.. will be huge.
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2006, 6:57 PM
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A few more shots from Sunday 11/12

View of the site and the installation of the tower crane from the 35th floor of the LaSalle-Wacker Building - 2006-11-12


Installing components to the tower crane as seen from the LaSalle-Wacker Building - 2006-11-12


View from the northeast into the core area - 2006-11-12
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NICE Updates, when does the additional excavation start?
     
     
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^ im still in awe at the tiny size of that plot of land. they are building a supertall on a quarter of a block! can that tower crane even fully rotate at the height its at? insane!
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2006, 8:12 PM
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^ im still in awe at the tiny size of that plot of land. they are building a supertall on a quarter of a block! can that tower crane even fully rotate at the height its at? insane!
At it's current height. I don't believe that it can fully rotate unless the boom is on an angle, and I can't remember if it is.

Also Steely, I hate to ask, but until I see the blueprints again, I'd like the height on the thread to remain 1,047'.

The other person that I contacted at Teng said the height hadn't changed, so until I get a visual confirmation by looking at the prints, I will be conservative and say it's better to keep the old 1,047' height.

Didn't mean to jump the gun or anything, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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^ im still in awe at the tiny size of that plot of land. they are building a supertall on a quarter of a block! can that tower crane even fully rotate at the height its at? insane!

Does anyone here know the actual dimentions of the lot size? It doesn't look like much more than 150 feet on the east side.
     
     
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I cant wait till this thing starts going vertical, seems like they've been in that hole forever. Any chance it could catch up to Trump at some point, seeing as how its got a lot less square footage?
     
     
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I cant wait till this thing starts going vertical, seems like they've been in that hole forever. Any chance it could catch up to Trump at some point, seeing as how its got a lot less square footage?
It won't be catching Trump.

Overall footprint: ~23,000sf
Core footprint: ~4,100sf

Structure won't be to Upper Wacker until about May 07
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It won't be catching Trump.

Overall footprint: ~23,000sf
Core footprint: ~4,100sf

Structure won't be to Upper Wacker until about May 07

I guess the lot is about the size of or smaller than a typical suburban McMansion lot.

There are many suburbs that wouldn't allow even a single family house to be built on a lot that size.
     
     
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I guess the lot is about the size of or smaller than a typical suburban McMansion lot.

There are many suburbs that wouldn't allow even a single family house to be built on a lot that size.
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PSH! Tell me about it! I grew up in the county just north of Milwaukee, one of the ten richest by per capita income in the US, where the average lot size had to be at least 4 or 5 acres!
     
     
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It won't be catching Trump.

Overall footprint: ~23,000sf
Core footprint: ~4,100sf

Structure won't be to Upper Wacker until about May 07

See. Steely, this confirms the project is probably around 2-3 months behind schedule (which I estimated a couple weeks ago). And it is actually quite prudent to continue to question this project and developer, because until full construction financing is arranged, the project is not on sound financial footing. This is a great project and I hope it does not run into deep troubles. But that does not mean we should give the developers a pass when it comes to their troubles and just look the other way. Rome was also not built on blind faith...
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See. Steely, this confirms the project is probably around 2-3 months behind schedule (which I estimated a couple weeks ago). And it is actually quite prudent to continue to question this project and developer, because until full construction financing is arranged, the project is not on sound financial footing. This is a great project and I hope it does not run into deep troubles. But that does not mean we should give the developers a pass when it comes to their troubles and just look the other way. Rome was also not built on blind faith...
I also mentioned somewhere on this forum that I was told June, so there...

Just because they haven't informed us of there financing, doesn't mean they don't have it.

You guys are beginning to sound like D. Roeder and the rest of the media in criticising financing on the Spire.

Found my previous post from September 13, 2006:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...=41986&page=72

That's exactly what it's for.

I've asked a few questions of my contact, and this it what I've found out. Remember this information is subject to change...


I was wondering how far down the excavation of the area outside the core would be going down? Generally, 8' above the lowest point in the core excavation (b/c there is no mat around the perimeter)

I was also wondering when do you believe the tower crane will be erected? As soon as the mat is poured. We plan on pouring in ~3 weeks.

Finally, I asked this question before, but need a but of clarification. About when will the building be up to Wacker Drive and start to rise? The core should be up to grade around the end of November. The perimeter should be up to Wacker around June 07.
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In a few more days when this level is poured, it'll be entirely above upper wacker and then it's up-up-up and away. Very hard not to get excited about this building and the impact it'll have on the river corridor.
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So, according to the elevations above, roof is 1012ft and screen wall is 1035?
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