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Old Posted May 27, 2014, 5:26 PM
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What the hell is with these Beaverbrook people? I know this is Ottawa and making a fuss about new things is a seemingly mandatory behaviour, but this is ridiculous.
http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/05/27/...nt-application

Here is what happened today. I'm not really sure what a 2 week cooling off period will do. The Councillor will be able to tell her constituants that she is fighting their case.
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Posted on 5/27/2014 5:34:00 PM by Stephanie Kinsella



A Kanata North redevelopment is in a time-out and tempers are flaring.

Phillip Bottriel owns a section of land between Teron and March Roads and is proposing 120 residential units, with most set to be part of a nine-storey building, with the rest in a three-storey building.

On Tuesday, city hall's planning committee approved putting off a decision for two weeks.

But Councillor Marianne Wilkinson continues to fume over the project, and argued the area is unique with its garden city concept.

"The whole area was designed so that high rises would go in the Kanata Town Centre, there's a design for that. That's why we got three, 15-storey buildings there. Where do you see another 15 storey building outside the Greenbelt? There aren't any."

The original proposal called for a 10 and 15-storey building and 172 units, but city staff rejected that. But Wilkinson said that's hardly a win.

"The city staff doesn't care about other communities. I'm sorry, they really don't understand or care what quality this community is. This is a community that we're trying to get into a heritage district because it has used the planning schools as a whole concept of development which is unusual in Canada."

Councillor Peter Hume, who chairs the planning committee, blasted Wilkinson for her insult to staff and said "that's just a terrible statement for an elected official to make."

He said he will vote in favour of the project because it fits with the city's planning policies, including one stipulation that bigger buildings be located close to transit.

"It's not high-rise development. Every other community in this city would consider it a mid-rise building. So you know, it can happen on the Vanier Parkway, like it did in Peter Clark's ward. It happens in my ward where you get two, 15-storey towers next to single family home communities. This is what our Official Plan calls for."

Wilkinson hopes Bill Teron, dubbed the founder of Kanata and who designed the Beaverbrook Community, can win over residents and the site owner with a new design, even though the owner has his own architects.

The project will be back up debate, and a decision, on June 10.
The 'Garden City' strikes again, it seems. And overlord Bill Teron, who got rich selling a subdivision to affluent suburbanites in the 1960s, will ride in on his white steed and make it all better.

How exactly is a councillor allowed to assign an architect/developer of her choice to a private project to suit her own demands?
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2014, 5:06 PM
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There are far worse eyesores in his precious Beaverbrook than this proposal:

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Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: May 30, 2014, Last Updated: June 2, 2014 8:16 AM EDT


The man who founded Kanata and designed its Beaverbrook community called a nine-storey building proposed for the area an “eyesore” and says he hopes to come up with something better.

Bill Teron said Friday he stepped forward to try to resolve the impasse between the man proposing the building and area residents, led by Kanata North Coun. Marianne Wilkinson.

Earlier this week, the city’s planning committee deferred a decision on a rezoning application for 1311 Teron Rd. in order to give Teron — yes, the road is named after him — two weeks to draw up a plan for the site that both sides can live with. The committee will revisit the issue at its June 10 meeting, with council making a final ruling the next day.

“When each party digs in their heels, they don’t meet. My challenge is to find a solution that the developer will like and the consumers will like,” Teron said.

“It’s not quite my promise yet, but I usually don’t like to fail.”

Teron said he’s already got some ideas, but was waiting to get his hands on the exact dimensions of the site to test out which one might work. If he comes up with something, he’ll present it to both Wilkinson and Phillip Bottriel, who owns the land.

Bottriel wants to put up a stepped, mid-rise building that transitions from three to nine storeys, and a three-storey apartment building, on two parcels of land wedged between Teron and March roads. The smaller piece of land is currently occupied by a single detached home; the other is undeveloped.

He opposed the committee’s decision to defer his rezoning application — a proposal city planners support.

Teron once owned all the land in what is now Kanata and later ran the Canadian Mortgage and Housing Corporation. He designed and built Beaverbrook, which he called an “iconic example” of the garden city concept — where trees and nature are supposed to be the prime architecture and the buildings fade behind them.

Bottriel’s plan totally ignores that key principle, he says.

“His intrusion would violate the purity of Beaverbrook as an iconic garden city example, it would be an eyesore within the context of character and scale,” Teron said. “It’s totally insensitive.”

The alternative site plan he’s drawing up would still leave lots of room for Bottriel’s architect to choose materials, Teron said. He added he’s not a builder and no longer has any commercial stake in the area.

But, at 82 and still going strong — he now develops sustainability patents for builders around the world — Teron says he believes there is a middle ground and he hopes to find it.

“If one side is unhappy, there won’t be a marriage.”

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Old Posted Jun 2, 2014, 5:11 PM
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...what about these beauties just down the street?

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.32856...W__A!2e0?hl=en

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.33152...e3zg!2e0?hl=en

I think old Bill Teron should just keep his mouth shut.
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Proposed Kanata condo development returns to planning committee

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: June 10, 2014, Last Updated: June 10, 2014 8:26 PM EDT


A proposed nine-storey building in Kanata got the seal of approval Tuesday from the planning committee, which rejected Kanata founder Bill Teron’s unsolicited plan for the land.

The decision comes two weeks after the committee deferred a rezoning application in order to give Teron some time to draw up an alternative to what developer Phillip Bottriell is proposing.

Bottriell wants to build a stepped, mid-rise building at 1131 Teron Rd. that transitions from three to nine storeys, and a three-storey apartment building, on two parcels of land wedged between Teron and March roads.

The smaller piece of land is currently occupied by a single detached home; the other is undeveloped.

Bottriell initially wanted to build a 15-storey apartment building and six townhouses but altered his plan after city staff and residents alike gave it the thumbs-down.

Teron, who has called the Bottriell’s latest proposal an “eyesore,” instead proposed three- and four-storey buildings on essentially the same footprint, with a maximum of 90 units; Bottriell’s plan calls for 120 units.

His main argument against the developer’s plan stemmed from his belief that Bottriell’s building won’t sell well due to unit size, the quality of intensification and the high cost of building with concrete.

“If you want intensification on this site, you will not get it from this builder,” Teron said.

A former head of the Canadian Mortgage and Housing Corporation, Teron also said it’s unlikely CMHC would insure building after completing some market analysis.

But Coun. Rainer Bloess reminded Teron that he doesn’t own the land and that it’s up to Bottriell to build what he think he can sell, so long as the builder has secured the necessary zoning.

Bottriell agreed, telling the committee that although he was sticking with his plan instead of Teron’s proposal, there were still a lot of details to pin down at the site plan stage.

He also agreed to increase the setback between his smaller building and neighbouring townhouses to 4.5 metres, which is less than the six metres required in the zoning rules but more than the 2.5 metres city staff were prepared to allow.

The Kanata Beaverbrook Community Association and a number of residents spoke against Bottriell’s plan. Many were concerned that the proposal doesn’t fit with Beaverbrook’s garden city character, which emphasizes trees and nature.

“All one has to do is take a walk in this community to see that this is so,” said resident Alan Coldham.

John Mlacak, former reeve of March Township, urged the committee to reject the application because, according to him, planning staff misinterpreted the rules.

“Your planners got it wrong; it’s up to you to get it right,” he said.

Council will decide on the matter on Wednesday.

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[B]Proposed Kanata condo development returns to planning committee


A former head of the Canadian Mortgage and Housing Corporation, Teron also said it’s unlikely CMHC would insure building after completing some market analysis.


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http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-...ning-committee
Well, CMHC is totally out of the condominium development insurance business, so....

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle19040448/
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approved after a tweak to the setbacks.

Not sure why Mr. Teron went after the credibility of the developer.. It's not relevant to the process. We don't give better zoning to developers we like and less dense zoning to developers we aren't familiar with.
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More buffer space OK'ed for Kanata development

By Jon Willing, Ottawa Sun
First posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 01:47 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 01:51 PM EDT


Kanata North Coun. Marianne Wilkinson won council's support Wednesday to increase the building setback for a controversial condo development in her ward.

The landowner at 1131 Teron Rd., near March Rd., wants to build a 120-unit complex with 3-9 storeys.

Wilkinson convinced council to make sure the setback from Teron Rd. is six metres, rather than 3-5 metres.

Neighbours are worried the building won't fit in with the Beaverbrook community.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/06/11/...ta-development
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By Jon Willing, Ottawa Sun
First posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 01:47 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 01:51 PM EDT


Kanata North Coun. Marianne Wilkinson won council's support Wednesday to increase the building setback for a controversial condo development in her ward.

The landowner at 1131 Teron Rd., near March Rd., wants to build a 120-unit complex with 3-9 storeys.

Wilkinson convinced council to make sure the setback from Teron Rd. is six metres, rather than 3-5 metres.

Neighbours are worried the building won't fit in with the Beaverbrook community.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/06/11/...ta-development
This developer has the patience of a saint. Wilkinson comes across as pretty devious in all of this...when will her stint as a councillor be up.
http://www.ottawacommunitynews.com/n...etres-too-far/

Love the quote

'The Kanata Beaverbrook Community Association’s president, Neil Thomson, said the community is characterized by large setbacks on buildings, emphasizing nature over structures.

“This is Beaverbrook,” he said. “We don’t do street presence.”

Obviously he hasn't been brought up to speed on current planning philosophies.

What a complete mess this application and the other one on Teron have been..
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Nice find.. Beaverbrook seems to be a goldmine for anti-extremification quotes
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Nice find.. Beaverbrook seems to be a goldmine for anti-extremification quotes
Because we need another Glebe... yeesh
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If the proposed Planning Act reforms go through, the developer would need Council's permission to apply for a variance if it was within two years of their zoning amendment. That would have been a fun meeting.
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This developer has the patience of a saint. Wilkinson comes across as pretty devious in all of this...when will her stint as a councillor be up.
http://www.ottawacommunitynews.com/n...etres-too-far/
Wilkinson is one of the greatest assets on council. If it weren't for her age I'd say she's make a great candidate for mayor someday.

She's really good at the art of shutting up her NIMBYs, and is also one of the best champions of transit & pedestrian/cyclist issues on council (quite ironic considering that she represents what is probably the most car-centric of the non-rural wards).
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Wilkinson is one of the greatest assets on council. If it weren't for her age I'd say she's make a great candidate for mayor someday.

She's really good at the art of shutting up her NIMBYs, and is also one of the best champions of transit & pedestrian/cyclist issues on council (quite ironic considering that she represents what is probably the most car-centric of the non-rural wards).
I"ll disagree with you on that one. I find her to be inconsistent and the current level of detail in planning matters is not her forte. When she said she was only going to run one more time, she got in, and then trotted out the old chestnut 'the people have spoken and they want me to run again' line when the next election came along. After that I lost all respect for her.

That area of the City needs some new leadership.

If I were the developer she wouldn't be at the ribbon cutting/ceremonial shovel turning.

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If the proposed Planning Act reforms go through, the developer would need Council's permission to apply for a variance if it was within two years of their zoning amendment. That would have been a fun meeting.
Within 2 years of a site specific zoning amendment or within 2 years of a city wide new Zoning By-law being enacted.?
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Within 2 years of a site specific zoning amendment or within 2 years of a city wide new Zoning By-law being enacted.?
In this case, the former would apply

http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bil...etail_the_bill

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When subs. (1.3) applies
(1.2) Subsection (1.3) applies when a by-law is amended in response to an application by the owner of any land, building or structure affected by the by-law, or in response to an application by a person authorized in writing by the owner.

Two-year period, no application for minor variance
(1.3) No person shall apply for a minor variance from the provisions of the by-law in respect of the land, building or structure before the second anniversary of the day on which the by-law was amended, unless the council has declared by resolution that the application for the minor variance is permitted.

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±3.65 acres of Kanata Development Land for sale
1131 Teron Road, Kanata
Preliminary Site Plan Approval for a 112 unit residential complex
Asking Price: $2,900,000


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1131 Teron Road, Kanata
Preliminary Site Plan Approval for a 112 unit residential complex
Asking Price: $2,900,000


http://www.primecorp.ca/listings/com...velopment-land
The developer probably got tired of dealing with the Community Association and the Councillor and their desire to protect the heritage setbacks.
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