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Originally Posted by Near North Resident
he's not running for president with this Van Dyke case looming over his head... although I feel like he would be an excellent candidate and Im not a democrat at all
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I really don't think stuff like the Van Dyke case has much political traction. Yes it's a problem and some people are worked up about it, but at the end of the day it's something happening all over the country and not just in Chicago. It's also a very abstract problem with few obvious direct solutions.
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Originally Posted by Via Chicago
I live in Little Village. But please, tell me more about the mean streets of Old Town.
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Yeah and the Near North has 6 homicides while your "ghetto" Little Village has 3 and is a much larger area. Check your own ignorance, I love how those who are first to claim "liberal" also love to brag about how "ghetto" their neighborhood is. Little Village is not ghetto, it is not full of vacant lots and trash strewn streets, it it full of tidy kept up two flats with neatly shorn parkway lawns all the way to Cicero. Stop trying to play up how "ghetto" your neighborhood is to win internet points, it's unbecoming and wildly hypocritical.
Ghetto is a place like Austin where crime of all stripes is rampant and half the buildings are gone on major retail strips replaced by vacant lots full of fly dumped tires. Little Village is a textbook working class immigrant neighborhood and, like all similar neighborhoods, has some crime and gang activity. I'm down there almost every day and have not once heard gunshots despite hearing them several times in Pilsen and literally being shot at (I was dealing with a gangbanger tenant in a building I managed when someone started shooting at him) within 1 block of Milwaukee and Diversey.
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Originally Posted by Via Chicago
guess we'll just have to eat the rich, then.
heres another chart im sure you will think is somehow flawed or not an accurate representation of the facts.
hm, wonder how the systematic robbing of the lower 90% by the top 10% of this country could have possibly taken place. other than the fact that, you know, every major policy decision over the past 3 decades has been at the expense of the common working man (and in fact normalized the demonization of the poor, as we can clearly see in this thread) in favor of plutocrats. but yea, doubtful any correlation there  |
Dude what's the difference between 1980 and now? The US economy has gone from a largely self contained manufacturing economy to the nerve center of the most globalized, interconnected, world economy in world history. Your graph shows that the poor have not actually gotten poorer, their wages have continued to slowly rise, but at a lower pace. This isn't a "rich stealing from the poor" situation, this is a "rich getting richer at a wildly faster rate" situation. Where is the welath coming from then? Refer back to the first sentence of this paragraph, US companies are not US companies anymore, they are all mini Dutch East India Companies now. They are global powerhouses making profits in every corner of the earth and bringing them home to their imperial capital. Just look at the recent wave of stock buy backs, it's not actually because "Donald Trump lowered taxes for the rich", it's because the economy changed to the point where corporations were making rediculous gobs of cash overseas and tax laws hadn't caught up to effectively deal with this. Trump updated the laws so that overseas profits weren't taxed at multiple times the rate that literally any other country on Earth taxes them. Love or hate Trump, that was a law that needed updating. We couldn't just mandate that companies bring that money home and deal with the existing bullshit tax consequences, that's some authoritarian China BS.
So my point is simple: if you want a globalized economy with the US at the helm, this is the logical consequence. The rich in the US will make exponentially more money because companies no longer have 300 million customers, but 7 billion. The solid union jobs you love so much will be sent over seas massively reducing poverty there (500 million Chinese have been lifted out of dire poverty by these policies since 1980). And wage growth for poor Americans will slow because they are now competing with all the impoverished masses of planet Earth for these jobs.
So what do you want? Trump is the first president in decades to push back on the globalization agenda and I'm sure you shit on him for it. You should be supportive of his tariffs. You boy Clinton was the originator of much of the current globalization regieme, but I'm sure you have never once uttered a critical word since he's a "Democrat". A "Democrat" in much the same way as his student and employee Rahm is.
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