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68.61 mi (110.42 km) between 49th - 48th parallel
That would put the 48th hypothetical border at the northern point of Everett Wash., a northern suburb of Seattle. Somewhere around a million people live between there and the Canadian border. If this territory were part of Canada, that population would be higher as an extension of the Lower Mainland, increasing the flat land area by more than 50%; this would be more valuable to Canada than it is to the US as a population draw. This might have added 2 to 3 million in additional population to the Vancouver area.
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Just whipped up a new border. I was very greedy...


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Just whipped up a new border. I was very greedy...
it is nice, even if it seems a bit exaggerated..

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it is nice, even if it seems a bit exaggerated..

Us Canadians are overly accommodating. We should have claimed Oregon and Idaho. We could give in on Idaho if the US does not make a fuss over Washington and Oregon.
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Just whipped up a new border. I was very greedy...

Seems complicated, needs a legal description. This is much more than the OP meant, a large bit of Hamerica, but mostly uninhabited except for Washington.
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The History of British Columbia by Sam Sullivan is pertinent here.

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On the flip side what would have happened if the US followed through with 54.40?

Then The entire southern half of BC would be the US and Canada would only have a tiny sliver of Pacific access near Prince Rupert.

PS, really like that border above
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PS, really like that border above
The only weird thing about it is how it gives NE Ontario (North Bay, Timmins...) to Quebec for some reason.

At least Sault Ste-Marie would eventually start to get pronounced correctly again under that scenario.
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The History of British Columbia by Sam Sullivan is pertinent here.

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Sweet thanks for sharing that. Most people don't know our history.
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Seems complicated, needs a legal description. This is much more than the OP meant, a large bit of Hamerica, but mostly uninhabited except for Washington.
I actually meant something like this:

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Not much of note in that expansion. quelques arpents de neige.
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Not much of note in that expansion. quelques arpents de neige.
Ah, a disciple of Voltaire I see.........

Actually, If we were to be completely intellectually honest regarding the map posted above by YUNEMUS, the boundary would actually deviate northward a bit in southern Alberta, as the extreme southern part of that province lies in the Mississippi basin, and thus would have been part of the Louisiana Purchase.
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Ah, a disciple of Voltaire I see.........

Actually, If we were to be completely intellectually honest regarding the map posted above by YUNEMUS, the boundary would actually deviate northward a bit in southern Alberta, as the extreme southern part of that province lies in the Mississippi basin, and thus would have been part of the Louisiana Purchase.
The Mississippi/Gulf of Mexico drainage basin also extends into southern Saskatchewan. I wonder if Maple Creek is in it?

If so, that might explain the exceptional climatological conditions there!
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The Mississippi/Gulf of Mexico drainage basin also extends into southern Saskatchewan. I wonder if Maple Creek is in it?

If so, that might explain the exceptional climatological conditions there!
It likely does!!!

I wonder how the Maple Creek banana harvest is going?
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On the flip side what would have happened if the US followed through with 54.40?

Then The entire southern half of BC would be the US and Canada would only have a tiny sliver of Pacific access near Prince Rupert.

PS, really like that border above
Then Canada would have been an Atlantic country. Anything north of 54 is unarable boreal forest all the way until Alberta. Halifax and the Maritimes would have more power (although they got the shaft almost immediately after Confederation, and before there was any useful Pacific port to speak of).

Prince Rupert would be one of those super remote cities of about 150,000 people that is a country’s only presence on a coast, kind of like Darwin, Australia (but with a way worse climate). Building a rail line there would not have been a 19th century priority, and we’d either ship things to Asia via the Panama Canal, or just let the Americans handle it for us.

We might have developed the oil sands, but since most of the easy southern Alberta reserves that were historically developed first would be in the States, we wouldn’t have had much of a homegrown energy industry to develop it.
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Ah, a disciple of Voltaire I see.........

Actually, If we were to be completely intellectually honest regarding the map posted above by YUNEMUS, the boundary would actually deviate northward a bit in southern Alberta, as the extreme southern part of that province lies in the Mississippi basin, and thus would have been part of the Louisiana Purchase.
If you check the red river basin you will see that it is larger area . But I took just half of it on the map.
So land distribution has been equal on the map




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Can't help but notice the 1803 purchase territory can be approximated as a single climatic zone that would most aptly be named "The Maple Creek/New Orleans Climate".
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The only weird thing about it is how it gives NE Ontario (North Bay, Timmins...) to Quebec for some reason.

At least Sault Ste-Marie would eventually start to get pronounced correctly again under that scenario.
I spent about 3 minutes thinking about it. NE Ontario is mostly francophone, is it not? That doesn't mean it should necessarily be a part of Quebec, of course. I did feel that NW Ontario should likely become a part of Manitoba or be its own thing, however...
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I spent about 3 minutes thinking about it. NE Ontario is mostly francophone, is it not? .
Not really. It's about 25% francophone.

The northernmost portion of it is close to 50% though.
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I can personally vouch for (my random sample of) Hearst being 100% francophone (and also 33% black).
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