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Originally Posted by Calgarian
Don't be such a fanboy
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Did grad school work on the topic. Call me a super fanboy if you must. On a military exchange at a US service academy, with the focus on alternative energy tech for combat systems and the strategic implications. I've been lucky enough to get exposure to where the tech is actually going. All that is to say, I'm not somebody coming at this from just watching YouTube videos (though they can be useful!). That's where I'm coming from....
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I said recharging is an issue (which it is, will take about an hour to get back to full charge, longer with bigger batteries)
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Recharging time is not hurting sales at all. It's an issue to those who have never owned one. And here's why: you don't need a full charge every time you step into your car. Just like you don't need a full tank of gas every time you drive. For the average commuter charging times are entirely irrelevant because all charging is done at home or work when the car is not in use.
The only time charging is relevant is on roadtrips. And even there the impact is debatable. Doing a 500km roadtrip? Stop for 30 mins at a fast charger en route and get to 80% and you're covered. Or do two 15 min breaks. And that's about all it would take to get from say Ottawa or Montreal to Toronto. A 10 min piss break would be enough between Calgary and Edmonton or Montreal and Quebec City. Longer than gas? Sure. But for how often people do these trips? Not a huge concern.
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Originally Posted by Calgarian
I said volatility is an issue (google thermal runaway and you will see)
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If you've actually googled it, you should have read about thermal management systems and how they are now basic on EVs and have substantially improved over the last few years.
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Originally Posted by Calgarian
I said there are serious concerns about the global supply of Lithium.
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This is about as serious as those who say the world is going to run out of oil. Lithium is plentiful. What is lacking is economical sources of it. But those come online as demand for the commodity grow. And long before we reach any real constraint, we'll see alternatives like iron-air batteries commercialized.
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I never argued against EV's just stated that the next battery tech will be required to surpass ICE.
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I'm suggesting that your take is not very informed. Or at least, not up to date.
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And if you think the developed countries will lead the way, well that's just nuts! There is no way the poorest people will lead the way with a more expensive technology. I think it will be quite a while before you see electric Tuk Tuks plying the streets of the poor tourist cities of the world lol.
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I think developed countries will lead the way on consumer level EVs. But developing countries are not going to lag behind substantially. And may lead in some cases. For example, China is the largest EV market in the world today. 40% of all EVs sold in the world are sold in China. Unlike, North America, for developing countries who don't have large oil reserves, importing oil is a major strategic and economic vulnerability. If they can get consumers and public to accept cheap EVs with compromises, it's a win. And the Chinese are starting to do just that and exporting those EVs to other emerging markets.
Your mocking example of electric Tuk Tuks proves my point. Far easier to electrify a rickshaw in India than an SUV in Canada. And the payoff is substantially higher too. So
electric Tuk Tuks are catching on in Asia now. Bet you didn't know that
there's over a million electric rickshaws in India alone and that they serve 60 million riders a day.
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Like I said. Too many here project their understanding of driving habits from North America and assume the rest of the world is the same.