Saskatchewan's Economic Outlook

thefourthtower · #1 Posted **Oct 29, 2010, 11:43 PM**

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Ruckus · #2 Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 5:34 AM**

^ population growth too. They'll both bounce back though...or well they? What with Sask. becoming a socialist misfit meddling in private affairs haha

hoeding · #3 Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 6:30 AM**

I'm not here for politics.

Ruckus · #4 Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 6:51 AM**

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Pretty SK is generally the most socialist leaning area in all of North America. (not to start a political discussion).

Play the hand you were dealt. (not to start a political discussion)

cebubu · #5 Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 4:35 PM**

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Pretty sure SK is generally the most socialist leaning area in all of North America. (not to start a political discussion).

Easy to make blanket statments without providing any facts or details.

Chaps · #6 Posted **Oct 30, 2010, 6:55 PM**

Political discussion should go to a new thread.

I know it's only a couple posts, but before it gets deep into it, it should move.

Ruckus · #7 Posted **Oct 31, 2010, 12:11 AM**

^ I second that.

thefourthtower · #8 Posted **Oct 31, 2010, 2:56 PM**

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Ruckus · #9 Posted **Nov 1, 2010, 1:55 AM**

Relax.

Next time I will remove your post instead.

Nathan · #10 Posted **Nov 1, 2010, 2:53 AM**

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How does job numbers have to do with politics , ruckus please take my name off this thread because i did not create it is just plain rude to do so you created it not me . ask first, there is nothing worse than talking politics

He split your post into a thread because your post started an offtopic discussion. Would you just calm down? It seems like almost anything will set you off these days.

thefourthtower · #11 Posted **Nov 1, 2010, 1:11 PM**

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babo · #12 Posted **Nov 1, 2010, 1:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ruckus

Relax.

Next time I will remove your post instead.

I second that.

thefourthtower · #13 Posted **Nov 2, 2010, 5:17 PM**

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socialisthorde · #14 Posted **Nov 2, 2010, 7:45 PM**

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Saskatchewan goes fishing in Calgary’s labour pool GORDON PITTS
From Tuesday's Globe and Mail
Published Monday, Nov. 01, 2010 7:17PM EDT
Last updated Tuesday, Nov. 02, 2010 6:38AM EDT
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Increase text size For two weeks, Calgary commuters have been bombarded with billboards and transit ads contrasting their overburdened, stressful existence with the pristine lifestyles of some unnamed utopia.

“Goodbye gridlock, hello home for dinner,” say one teaser ad, showing a young dad pounding up the paving stones to his house. “Goodbye heavy debt, hello disposable income,” says another, displaying another man in jeans striding along a lakeside dock.

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But growth has its costs in urban sprawl and traffic congestion. Calgary has become like just any big city, while Regina still gives great lifestyle – and now good careers for returning expatriates, as well.

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“ Regina has attempted such campaigns in the past, but lifestyle is the selling point now – cottage lakes within commuting distance of downtown, lower house prices (on average, a third lower), and much lighter mortgage commitments.

Man this is ripe with irony. We try to sell ourselves on our differences from Calgary, while turning ourselves into Calgary through population growth (which I agree with) and suburban style development (which I abhor). Really, Regina and Saskatoon until very recently have attempted to be miniature versions of Calgary and the only saving grace was that we are smaller, so the flaws in planning don't show so much (i.e. the suburban comute is 15 minutes rather than 45 minutes, not because we have built better cities, but because our poorly built cities aren't as big). Yes, talk suggests that tide is turning in Saskatoon and Regina (e.g. Regina Downtown Plan and focus on infill in Saskatoon), but I haven't seen much hard evidence that practices are changing yet.

Well, for the time being we can still fool those ex-Saskatchewanites into thinking they can have Calgary style housing and roads with Regina/Saskatoon lifestyle advantages.

yeeg · #15 Posted **Nov 2, 2010, 8:34 PM**

Gridlock - maybe I can agree with this from time to time...

Disposable income - Cant agree with this...Not sure where they are getting this from as housing prices in Regina are up there and income taxes in saskatchewan are horrendous. Not sure about property tax so I will as for help on this one??

I know for fact that property tax on a $800,000 house in Calgary burbs carries $4200 per year. $380,000 condo in downtown Calgary is $1800 and a $360,000 condo in the burbs is $1600 per year.

Ruckus · #16 Posted **Nov 2, 2010, 8:39 PM**

socialisthorde, I agree with your statement about our cities being smaller, poorly planned versions of Calgary, or Edmonton for that matter. Although I think it is important to recognize that Calgary and Edmonton experienced a lot of expansion in an era where neighborhood design, transportation, and comprehensive planning practices were not as progressive as they are now. The idea of sustainable development was not popularized until the UN published the Brundtland Report in 1987. For any city, the goals, objectives, policies and programs from 1950 to 2000 -- strong growth period for Alberta's two largest cities -- produced a city form corresponding to the mindset of that era. The strong desire for building our cities more sustainably leads one to believe we should expect different outcomes in the 21st Century.

We may never be larger than Calgary or Edmonton, but we absolutely have an opportunity to imagine and build cities with very attractive urban living conditions.

thefourthtower · #17 Posted **Nov 2, 2010, 10:12 PM**

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socialisthorde · #18 Posted **Nov 3, 2010, 8:38 PM**

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... Not sure about property tax so I will as for help on this one??

I know for a fact that property tax on a $800,000 house in Calgary burbs carries $4200 per year. $380,000 condo in downtown Calgary is $1800 and a $360,000 condo in the burbs is $1600 per year.

I think property tax rates are about as controversial as population density to compare across cities (look in the "Canada" section to see how density levels can be argued any which way), since there is so much variance in terms of what they pay for (i.e. what services are user pay and what are covered by property tax - like library cards, recycling etc) and how they are assessesed (i.e. dramatic rise in property values in some areas of the city versus others mean that some pay relatively little compared to current property value while others pay relatively more). I know that I hear repeatedly that Saskatoon has among the lowest property taxes in Canada, but I honestly wouldn't know how to appraise the accuracy of that statement.

Bdog · #19 Posted **Nov 4, 2010, 1:43 AM**

How do you Saskatchewanian forumers feel about the Feds decision to block the PotashCorp takeover?

kiwi4life · #20 Posted **Nov 4, 2010, 2:17 AM**

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How do you Saskatchewanian forumers feel about the Feds decision to block the PotashCorp takeover?

i think its a good idea, although im not really too sure bout whats going on here, but to me the potash is saskatchewans and no one elses, i dont think someone else should come in and try buy a saskatchewan based company based on saskatchewan potash, doesnt make sense for anyone in saskatchewan to support this, this could have a bad effect on us here, if the takeover is too happen, therefore i am totally against it