AUSTIN | Avenir (Formerly Dorsey) | 170 Feet | 15 Floors | Complete

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[DaveinWimberley]

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

Every time I hear or read that name I'll think of bicycle accessories.

It reminds me of "Skeletor"

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[shoreditch]

Isn't Avenir a type of font?

[The ATX]

Google says it's a font and the French word for future. Either way, it's a stupid name for a building. I like the original One Two East.

[DaveinWimberley]

Originally Posted by The ATX

Google says it's a font and the French word for future. Either way, it's a stupid name for a building. I like the original One Two East.

Actually it's probably a marketing ploy.
It got everybody's attention, didn't it?
And it's a pretty nice apartment building, looking at their new brochures. I'm sure it's not going to be cheap.

[The ATX]

Originally Posted by DaveinWimberley

Actually it's probably a marketing ploy.
It got everybody's attention, didn't it?
And it's a pretty nice apartment building, looking at their new brochures. I'm sure it's not going to be cheap.

Every name change got just as much attention on SSP as this one. I doubt they are marketing it to us. Most potential renters won't know about the multiple name changes during construction. The place is nice (not as much as the original version, thanks NIMBYs and CC) and they will have no trouble filling it up regardless of the name.

[corvairkeith]

It'll always be Huston to me.

[The ATX]

Originally Posted by corvairkeith

It'll always be Huston to me.

We all have a favorite.

That original version with a full service 90K Sq. Ft. grocery store and around 500 mostly below market affordable homes for seniors was something we needed. But the CC once again proved that they really don't care about affordable housing. About 1K people could have had a home there, but about 20 NIMBYs made the CC cave.

[sammyk]

Originally Posted by The ATX

We all have a favorite.

That original version with a full service 90K Sq. Ft. grocery store and around 500 mostly below market affordable homes for seniors was something we needed. But the CC once again proved that they really don't care about affordable housing. About 1K people could have had a home there, but about 20 NIMBYs made the CC cave.

What did those NIMBYs even gain?

[the Genral]

Originally Posted by sammyk

What did those NIMBYs even gain?

A victory, and possibly....momentum.

[The ATX]

Originally Posted by sammyk

What did those NIMBYs even gain?

Short answer nothing. I think they wanted to kill it altogether, but the developers went ahead with what the zoning allowed. So they got no walkable grocery store and market rate housing instead of below market affordable housing. They claimed traffic was the issue. But maybe it was the affordable housing possibly affecting their home prices?

[paul78701]

Originally Posted by The ATX

Short answer nothing. I think they wanted to kill it altogether, but the developers went ahead with what the zoning allowed. So they got no walkable grocery store and market rate housing instead of below market affordable housing. They claimed traffic was the issue. But maybe it was the affordable housing possibly affecting their home prices?

It's hard to get into their heads really. They don't come off as rational, thinking people. No rational person could think that this is better than what was proposed.

I imagine that a lot of them didn't really understand the ins and outs of it all and thought that a no vote from the CC was going to prevent any sort of tall building from going up there. They may now feel punched in the gut because a tall building ended up getting built anyway.

[KevinFromTexas]

I think most of those people don't put that much thought into it. That isn't an insult, but rather an unfortunate observation. I know what they'll say. They'll say the developers paid someone off, particularly the city council and mayor. Or they'll say that the developers were never serious about building a grocery store in the first place and this is what they wanted all along. Just go tip toe onto Facebook and see what the public responses are to this and other projects and how the public - at least, some of the public, sees our city, our city council, and mayor. I expect that nothing will please them, which is what makes it futile and to attempt to. That's why they still got a high rise in their neighborhood without a walkable grocery store.

[gillynova]

[atxsnail]

Originally Posted by The ATX

Short answer nothing. I think they wanted to kill it altogether, but the developers went ahead with what the zoning allowed. So they got no walkable grocery store and market rate housing instead of below market affordable housing. They claimed traffic was the issue. But maybe it was the affordable housing possibly affecting their home prices?

Affordable housing might have been part of it. Part of the reason might have been b/c most people cannot fathom a lifestyle other than the suburban one they have likely lived their whole lives. So they just pictured the worst aspects of an suburban HEB and figured that's what they could expect.

Mostly there is a weird, pervasive belief among the NIMBY set that developers are evil (and not just profit-seeking like every other business) and causing one ANY financial pain/delay is performing a public service. I suspect most of these people knew the developer would eventually build something big there. It was just worth it to them to worsen their own lives for the momentary feeling of sticking it to the man.

[paul78701]

Originally Posted by atxsnail

Affordable housing might have been part of it. Part of the reason might have been b/c most people cannot fathom a lifestyle other than the suburban one they have likely lived their whole lives. So they just pictured the worst aspects of an suburban HEB and figured that's what they could expect.

That's a good point. Most of them probably can't imagine a world in which they (or others) are not dependent on a vehicle in order to live day to day.

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This one is complete. I’ll stop by for pics soon.

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