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Keep-SA-Lame · #**361** Posted **Dec 19, 2018, 7:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Fryguy

WebCam image on December 19, 2018 at 12:12 PM on the bottom left hand side:

This image speaks loudly of the lack of skyscrapers in San Antonio. NYC in the 1930s had an iconic image of workers hundreds of feet in the air eating their lunch while working on the Empire State building.

We have 4 workers eating lunch on steel at one floor above river level.

It's funny, but it also perhaps provides one of the reasons as to why this project is taking years to finish - not enough workers, especially compared to the Arts and Frost.

You really think the developer (who has an incentive to get this thing running and generating cash) and the contractors (who want to finish and get paid and move on to the next project) are just sitting on their hands because they're lazy or something? That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

JACKinBeantown · #**362** Posted **Dec 19, 2018, 8:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Keep-SA-Lame

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

Keep-SA-Lame has divulged her identity! She's the GEICO® lady.

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Originally Posted by Fryguy

NYC in the 1930s had an iconic image of workers hundreds of feet in the air eating their lunch while working on the Empire State building.

Just an FYI, it was actually the RCA Building (30 Rock).

Spoiler · #**363** Posted **Dec 19, 2018, 8:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Fryguy

We have 4 workers eating lunch on steel at one floor above river level.

So, street level? That is funny.

UltraDanPrime · #**364** Posted **Dec 19, 2018, 9:07 PM**

Spot on Keep-SA-Lame

sirkingwilliam · #**365** Posted **Dec 19, 2018, 9:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Keep-SA-Lame

You really think the developer (who has an incentive to get this thing running and generating cash) and the contractors (who want to finish and get paid and move on to the next project) are just sitting on their hands because they're lazy or something? That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

This response...

Fryguy · #**366** Posted **Dec 19, 2018, 11:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

Keep-SA-Lame has divulged her identity! She's the GEICO® lady.

Just an FYI, it was actually the RCA Building (30 Rock).

Really? Wow... I feel dumb. I just always thought that because I got a souvenir of that moment from the Empire State building. I'll have to look it up.

JACKinBeantown · #**367** Posted **Dec 20, 2018, 2:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by Fryguy

Really? Wow... I feel dumb. I just always thought that because I got a souvenir of that moment from the Empire State building. I'll have to look it up.

I used to think the same thing until one day I was looking at the buildings and Central Park in the background and figured it out.

Here's a Wikipedia link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunch_atop_a_Skyscraper

Fryguy · #**368** Posted **Dec 20, 2018, 2:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

I used to think the same thing until one day I was looking at the buildings and Central Park in the background and figured it out.

Here's a Wikipedia link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunch_atop_a_Skyscraper

Thanks for letting me know. I always feel it's better to be corrected than to be left a fool. (Knowledge is power emoji)

JACKinBeantown · #**369** Posted **Dec 20, 2018, 2:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Fryguy

Thanks for letting me know. I always feel it's better to be corrected than to be left a fool. (Knowledge is power emoji)

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Same with me. Let it be known that I appreciate being corrected if I am wrong... courteously.

Restless One · #**370** Posted **Dec 20, 2018, 7:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

I used to think the same thing until one day I was looking at the buildings and Central Park in the background and figured it out.

Here's a Wikipedia link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunch_atop_a_Skyscraper

Wasn't that photo staged?

JACKinBeantown · #**371** Posted **Dec 21, 2018, 1:53 AM**

^^ Very possibly. The flag on Iwo Jima was, so why not this?

Restless One · #**372** Posted **Dec 21, 2018, 2:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

^^ Very possibly. The flag on Iwo Jima was, so why not this?

The flag on Iwo Jima has been authenticated. Your link to the group lunch confirms it was staged, although the workers in the photo were actually workers on the RCA building. Not that it takes away from the pic, as those involved that could be found, were very proud to have taken the pic, as well they should be.

Your misconception on the Iwo Jima flag raising arises from the photographer admitting subsequent photos with the flag were staged, but not the raising of the flag.

Txdev · #**373** Posted **Dec 21, 2018, 3:24 AM**

I’m sure that both the Empire State Buiiding and the RCA Building had more than a 6500 sf site to work on. I bet they had more than one or two closed traffic lanes to stage materials on. I bet they weren’t digging piers 20 feet away from a navigable river. I bet they didn’t have noise ordinances telling them when they could work.

But it is frustrating to all involved. Once the cantilever floor is poured soon, the hope is that successive floors will be faster.

JACKinBeantown · #**374** Posted **Dec 21, 2018, 3:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by Restless One

The flag on Iwo Jima has been authenticated. Your link to the group lunch confirms it was staged, although the workers in the photo were actually workers on the RCA building. Not that it takes away from the pic, as those involved that could be found, were very proud to have taken the pic, as well they should be.

Your misconception on the Iwo Jima flag raising arises from the photographer admitting subsequent photos with the flag were staged, but not the raising of the flag.

I stand semi-corrected. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Txdev

I’m sure that both the Empire State Buiiding and the RCA Building had more than a 6500 sf site to work on. I bet they had more than one or two closed traffic lanes to stage materials on. I bet they weren’t digging piers 20 feet away from a navigable river. I bet they didn’t have noise ordinances telling them when they could work.

But it is frustrating to all involved. Once the cantilever floor is poured soon, the hope is that successive floors will be faster.

This is always the case with difficult lower floors, transfer floors, etc. I think you're right... once they get past the cantilever things will go faster.

txex06 · #**375** Posted **Dec 31, 2018, 5:23 PM**

Site from above.

The Model · #**376** Posted **Jan 4, 2019, 4:44 AM**

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Hilton Canopy Construction by Raul Medina III, on Flickr[/IMG]

Fryguy · #**377** Posted **Jan 4, 2019, 4:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by txex06

Site from above.

It looks like there are two elevator shafts. Am I seeing this correct? The area nearest the steel pole.

JACKinBeantown · #**378** Posted **Jan 4, 2019, 2:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Fryguy

It looks like there are two elevator shafts. Am I seeing this correct? The area nearest the steel pole.

I think there are two... both next to each other in the shafty-looking open space inside the core next to the crane.

Txdev · #**379** Posted **Jan 5, 2019, 3:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

I think there are two... both next to each other in the shafty-looking open space inside the core next to the crane.

There are 3 elevators, in the box next to the crane.

The other sheer wall you see is for an exit stair. The second required exit stair is on the hard corner, but attached to the elevator sheer wall.

(Pic is txex06’s image above, modified. Nice pic txex06!)

JACKinBeantown · #**380** Posted **Jan 5, 2019, 6:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Txdev

There are 3 elevators, in the box next to the crane.

The other sheer wall you see is for an exit stair. The second required exit stair is on the hard corner, but attached to the elevator sheer wall.

(Pic is txex06’s image above, modified. Nice pic txex06!)

Thanks!