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Hudson11 · #**901** Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 3:21 AM**

It hasn't been "The Girasole" for a long time. They dropped that moniker in favor of the new Hudson Boulevard address. One thing to look forward to is that this tower will finally completely activate Hudson Boulevard's first phase. 3 Hudson Boulevard and The Spiral will complete the *second block beyond the railyard. The Spitzer/Related tower to the north of The Spiral is also gearing up.

NYguy · #**902** Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 3:58 AM**

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Closer look:

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It's still boring, but is now classy. Will be a nice background tower in HY.

It's still being outclassed by 50 Hudson and the Spiral. But our new supertall overlords are changing how we see skycrapers. In another time, perhaps, this would have materialized as a basic 700 - 800 footer. But the times have changed, and the skyline is rising to account for it. It may be a supertall, but it's still filler. I can still see it as a 700 ft building rising on one of the avenues of Manhattan, nothing special, but solid office stock. However, that's just how it appears for us. This building will have all the "bells and whistles" all of the more flashier looking towers will have for its tenants.

NYguy · #**903** Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 4:27 AM**

A better look...

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7Yqa67gwkK/

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The new design for #BXPNYC’s 3 Hudson Boulevard was unveiled today. This 1.85 million square foot tower, a partnership with @moiniangroup, will rise as the newest addition to the #HudsonYards District.

chris08876 · #**904** Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 5:39 AM**

I kinda like it, IMO.

Goes well with the area. I think the trend with super talls from the fans perspective is that everything must be stellar, but this design aids the area in a way. Not tacky, not overly flashy, but something that is a nice side chick for the other towers, that fits into the group yah know.

Out of all the HY neighborhood towers, The Spiral is the one that somewhat looks out of place (but not in a bad way, just aesthetically relative to the other HY towers).

JMKeynes · #**905** Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 12:31 PM**

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A better look...

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7Yqa67gwkK/

Where are these renderings from? This tower looks great.

Zapatan · #**906** Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 2:20 PM**

I like it too, nothing wrong with simplicity.

I think my main concern is that there are now 4 towers around 1000 feet in the same place, creating a plateau effect.

JMKeynes · #**907** Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 2:57 PM**

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I like it too, nothing wrong with simplicity.

I think my main concern is that there are now 4 towers around 1000 feet in the same place, creating a plateau effect.

I agree about the plateau. Not to mention, this tower will completely block the Spiral's Hudson River views.

Anyway, this is my favorite version of this tower. The initial torqued version was nice, but it was such a slight twist that its effect was diminished.

chris08876 · #**908** Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 4:27 PM**

Credit: JC_Heights

NYguy · #**909** Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 5:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

I like it too, nothing wrong with simplicity.

I think my main concern is that there are now 4 towers around 1000 feet in the same place, creating a plateau effect.

Boston Properties posted that on their instagram as the new renderings, so we should assume this is pretty much what we’re getting.

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I agree about the plateau. Not to mention, this tower will completely block the Spiral's Hudson River views.

That was my concern about the height. The newer renders look a little better, but still supertall filler. Imagine 50 and the Spiral in that render. And Related has a second phase to go, including another large office tower in front of 55. This tower would completely dominate many skylines, but here it’s filler. I hope the lighting stays.

chris08876 · #**910** Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 6:24 PM**

The rendering also shares (Boston Properties) striking similarities to the one via the NY Post. So its the same tower.

pianowizard · #**911** Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 8:11 PM**

On the bright side, the plateau may force future developers to build taller, if they want their skyscrapers to be more visible and/or to get better views. This could be how NYC will finally have a megatall!

matt19215 · #**912** Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 8:19 PM**

Are there any other sites in the Javits area that have enough air rights for a megatall?

NYguy · #**913** Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 9:55 PM**

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Are there any other sites in the Javits area that have enough air rights for a megatall?

Many of them could, in theory. There are no height limits in the area, and anything that tall wouldn’t have the large floorplates of the Hudson Yards towers. Besides that, the Penn Station district just to the east, and beyond that, midtown east.

A look at how the HY was originally zoned in sf (not gsf). Of course, both railyards were later revised to add more density. This is site 706A, the 4th of the “four corners” towers (50 Hudson, the Spiral, and 55 Hudson are the others).

Imagine if Extell’s WPC had gotten built instead of 55, at 1,011 ft.

chris08876 · #**914** Posted **Jan 17, 2020, 11:52 PM**

The various changes to this development throughout the years.

Credit: Springboss123_456

NYguy · #**915** Posted **Jan 18, 2020, 1:25 AM**

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The various changes to this development throughout the years.

Credit: Springboss123_456

The one on the far left is Sherwood Equities design for the site that was sold, and is now the Spiral. The rest are 3 Hudson, a design that for years remained the same, then changed before you could get used to one design. But it's great to see all of these proposals on the west side finally seeing the light if day. Some things take longer, that's why I've never panicked about 2 WTC delays.

Visionist · #**916** Posted **Jan 19, 2020, 1:50 PM**

Not so relevant now, but the proper pronunciation of Girasole is "Jee-rah-soar-leh" with each of the syllables short and punchy.

Prezrezc · #**917** Posted **Jan 19, 2020, 2:40 PM**

It has a 218 Liberty St feel.

NYguy · #**918** Posted **Jan 19, 2020, 4:46 PM**

I wouldn't have been mad at the version below, but we won't see major office towers as straightforward as this for a while, if at all...

eXodius · #**919** Posted **Jan 19, 2020, 8:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Visionist

Not so relevant now, but the proper pronunciation of Girasole is "Jee-rah-soar-leh" with each of the syllables short and punchy.

And here I was pronouncing it as "gear-ah-sole"

Kinda wishing this tower wasn't blocking The Spiral! Seeing that from the waterfront with 3 Hudson beside it would've been sweet!

Visionist · #**920** Posted **Jan 20, 2020, 9:52 PM**

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I wouldn't have been mad at the version below, but we won't see major office towers as straightforward as this for a while, if at all...

I much prefer that to the current design. Much sleeker and more futuristic. Even better if it were a couple hundred feet or more higher.