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Ned.B · #**1261** Posted **Mar 25, 2019, 1:35 PM**

10023 are you referring to Tudor revival, the 1920s eclectic style or the revival of Tudor revival that occurred in the 1970s and 80s?

Also, it's not especially tall, but this city already has a Tudor style highrise. Take a look at 23 E Jackson, designed by Alfred Alschuler in 1928 for the Finchley Men's Store.

HomrQT · #**1262** Posted **Mar 25, 2019, 2:13 PM**

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Tudor highrise architecture makes no sense. Sullivan would turn in his grave.

So-called “Tudor Revival” residential architecture that doesn’t use correct materials and gets many of the architectural elements wrong is bad enough.

Neo-Gothic at least made some semblance of sense because Gothic buildings soared. The Cathedrals were the skyscrapers of their day. Even then having a bunch of non-load bearing flying buttresses is pretty silly.

Tudor and gothic share many similarities, especially when they both are exercised via brick or stone.

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This literally made me laugh so hard, my belly hurts. Thank you for that. Conjures quite the visual.

It really could work. Don't be so quick to brush it off.

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^One of the world's first skyscrapers, the Masonic Temple, at the northeast corner of State and Randolph, could arguably be called 'tudor'... look it up and check out the detail below the hipped roofs...

Hmmm, I'm not sure if I'd call that more tudor or gothic.

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Originally Posted by Ned.B

10023 are you referring to Tudor revival, the 1920s eclectic style or the revival of Tudor revival that occurred in the 1970s and 80s?

Also, it's not especially tall, but this city already has a Tudor style highrise. Take a look at 23 E Jackson, designed by Alfred Alschuler in 1928 for the Finchley Men's Store.

This is an excellent example. Very good call.

The type of example I personally had in my mind is something similar to the Layer Marney Tower in England, just scaled to a very large building. But I maybe like yours better.

https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...dding_0001.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layer_Marney_Tower

Chi-Sky21 · #**1263** Posted **Mar 25, 2019, 3:18 PM**

wow, i must have walked that section of Jackson a million times and i never noticed the top section of that building before..thanks!

Skyguy_7 · #**1264** Posted **Mar 25, 2019, 3:48 PM**

^Same. The original interior must have been awesome.

AlpacaObsessor · #**1265** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 5:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ned.B

Also, it's not especially tall, but this city already has a Tudor style highrise. Take a look at 23 E Jackson, designed by Alfred Alschuler in 1928 for the Finchley Men's Store.

There are surprisingly very few photos of this building online. It's currently owned by DePaul, but I believe only the College of Law has some of their classes in it.

ardecila · #**1266** Posted **Mar 27, 2019, 5:21 AM**

^ Wow, I totally forgot about this building. Which is weird, considering I spent countless hours as a child waiting just outside this building for my mom to get out of her night law classes.

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Originally Posted by 10023

Tudor highrise architecture makes no sense. Sullivan would turn in his grave.

So-called “Tudor Revival” residential architecture that doesn’t use correct materials and gets many of the architectural elements wrong is bad enough.

Neo-Gothic at least made some semblance of sense because Gothic buildings soared. The Cathedrals were the skyscrapers of their day. Even then having a bunch of non-load bearing flying buttresses is pretty silly.

As a dyed in the wool New Yorker I'm surprised you didn't mention Tudor City...

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/150/3...3af972b3_z.jpg
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BVictor1 · #**1267** Posted **Mar 28, 2019, 6:34 AM**

03/26/19

Bombardier · #**1268** Posted **Mar 28, 2019, 10:42 AM**

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03/26/19

Demo permits were issued for those three buildings beside Bella Luna and I saw some Heneghan equipment delivered yesterday. Those should start coming down this week.

Goose Island Guru · #**1269** Posted **Mar 28, 2019, 11:59 AM**

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Demo permits were issued for those three buildings beside Bella Luna and I saw some Heneghan equipment delivered yesterday. Those should start coming down this week.

Today, gentlemen!

donnie · #**1270** Posted **Mar 28, 2019, 12:31 PM**

somebody should mark the cafe too while they're it!

the urban politician · #**1271** Posted **Mar 28, 2019, 12:49 PM**

It’s too bad that one of those nice historic buildings couldn’t have been on the corner occupied by Bella Luna. It would be nice to see at least one of them preserved.

F1 Tommy · #**1272** Posted **Mar 28, 2019, 1:13 PM**

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It’s too bad that one of those nice historic buildings couldn’t have been on the corner occupied by Bella Luna. It would be nice to see at least one of them preserved.

The grey stone building is pretty nice. I am sure someone will reuse most of the fronts of those buildings somewhere hopefully. If not they should be ashamed of themselves.

harryc · #**1273** Posted **Mar 28, 2019, 2:54 PM**

March 22

Coming down soon

Soil Modification - Micro Piles - to shore up the foundation of the one building that will remain.

HomrQT · #**1274** Posted **Mar 28, 2019, 5:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by harryc

March 22

Coming down soon

Despite the great project that's coming up, still sad to see these taken down.

LouisVanDerWright · #**1275** Posted **Mar 28, 2019, 5:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by harryc

Soil Modification - Micro Piles - to shore up the foundation of the one building that will remain.

Technically this is not site prep anymore, micro piles are piles and piles are foundation work.

harryc · #**1276** Posted **Mar 28, 2019, 6:21 PM**

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Technically this is not site prep anymore, micro piles are piles and piles are foundation work.

The foundation of the existing building, not part of this project

maru2501 · #**1277** Posted **Mar 28, 2019, 6:24 PM**

one thought I hadn't had yet after looking at these pictures:

in addition to everything else it will do and being a skyline booster, this might actually help One Superior Place aesthetically, which I didn't think was possible.

Even it's entrance will feel better across from another large building than across from a parking lot, which tended to emphasize its grotesque proportions

gebs · #**1278** Posted **Mar 28, 2019, 6:38 PM**

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Even it's entrance will feel better across from another large building than across from a parking lot, which tended to emphasize its grotesque proportions

I get such a kick out of the full-throated contempt that One Superior Place and Asbury plaza get on this forum.

Glad they're going to be completely eclipsed by this stunner.

the urban politician · #**1279** Posted **Mar 28, 2019, 7:03 PM**

Ass-bury Plaza basically looks better when you simply can't see it.

But since it's likely not going anywhere, our best hope is that its garage fronting Chicago Ave eventually gets redeveloped into something less pathetic

Ned.B · #**1280** Posted **Mar 29, 2019, 5:18 PM**

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Ass-bury Plaza basically looks better when you simply can't see it.

But since it's likely not going anywhere, our best hope is that its garage fronting Chicago Ave eventually gets redeveloped into something less pathetic

I was just looking at some of the Asbury floor plans. Those have to be some of the most depressing apartment interiors in the city. Deep units and 1-2 windows per unit placed on an angle. This folks is why window wall apartment buildings aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

As far as the 3 buildings being lost, it's always a shame, but more so that at least 2 out of 3 haven't been better cared for. There's barely anything worth salvaging on those exteriors unfortunately.