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Old Posted Nov 21, 2019, 4:37 PM
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All I am saying is if you remove deficit spending from growth the numbers would be similarish for both. My dislike for operating under a deficit for an extend period is it's added risk. It also promotes a culture of deficits are "ok" due to the fact it takes decades for the problem to really manifest into something uncontrollable.

Stagnation and recession don't have to be bad words and can help force organizations into efficiency. Even if it's the organization that pushes itself into recession.

Creating an environment through policy, incentives and infrastructure for free market growth is all a government should do to promote growth.

I'll get off my soapbox now.
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All I am saying is if you remove deficit spending from growth the numbers would be similarish for both. My dislike for operating under a deficit for an extend period is it's added risk. It also promotes a culture of deficits are "ok" due to the fact it takes decades for the problem to really manifest into something uncontrollable.

Stagnation and recession don't have to be bad words and can help force organizations into efficiency. Even if it's the organization that pushes itself into recession.

Creating an environment through policy, incentives and infrastructure for free market growth is all a government should do to promote growth.

I'll get off my soapbox now.
socialism for be rich, capitalism for the poor! the ruling class is allowed to artificially create conditions for growth and then have the nerve to call it “free market”. hilarious
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Huh? The government is downloading costs onto the taxpayer? From whom exactly?
Ok, congratulations! But my point is that costs are being downloaded onto those least able to afford it. In the end, universities will receive the same amount of funds - or less if enrolments decline - but a larger share will come from user fees making it much harder for students from modest means to better themselves through education. For transit, costs are downloaded from the provincial taxpayer to the city taxpayer and the end user who will likely pay more and receive less as service is cut.

But yeah, Pallister is making Manitoba great again I guess.
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In thinking about the current Province vs City and in the context of the Province tellng the Winnipeg that they cannot delay fixing phosphorous outflows to Lake Winnipeg...

Just wondering ...

If Pallister and Bowman are supposed to be Conservative ... Bowman from the Winnipeg Chamber of Commerce (or at least endorsed by them) and Pallister was from the previous Filmon gov't ...

Why can't they see eye to eye?

Unless...

Bowman is really a Blue Liberal and Pallister is a Blue Conservative.
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Ok, congratulations! But my point is that costs are being downloaded onto those least able to afford it. In the end, universities will receive the same amount of funds - or less if enrolments decline - but a larger share will come from user fees making it much harder for students from modest means to better themselves through education. For transit, costs are downloaded from the provincial taxpayer to the city taxpayer and the end user who will likely pay more and receive less as service is cut.

But yeah, Pallister is making Manitoba great again I guess.
So people from Gimli and Thompson should be funding transit in Winnipeg? The province should be paying nothing.
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So people from Gimli and Thompson should be funding transit in Winnipeg? The province should be paying nothing.
So people in Winnipeg should be funding anything outside the city limits?
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So people from Gimli and Thompson should be funding transit in Winnipeg? The province should be paying nothing.
Riiiggghhhhttt because Ontario doesn't fund transit projects in TO, ever
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Riverman, where do you suppose most provincial tax revenue comes from? Winnipeg has 2/3 of the province’s population. If anything, the taxes collected in Winnipeg are subsidizing services in smaller communities — which I understand and support. But you have to remember, there’s only one taxpayer. I pay taxes to the city AND and province. The province has an obligation to fund services in my community too.
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Riverman is detached from reality, does not understand how the real world works
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Riiiggghhhhttt because Ontario doesn't fund transit projects in TO, ever
Did he say he favours that?
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So people from Gimli and Thompson should be funding transit in Winnipeg? The province should be paying nothing.
That depends if it’s of a benefit to the people of the province as a whole. What a narrow world you live in.
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