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Old Posted Apr 2, 2009, 12:29 PM
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PHILADELPHIA | Sugarhouse Casino Phase 3 | 300 FT x2 | 25 FLOORS x2

UPDATE 12/20/11: The current site plan is below, from PlanPhilly. Larger image found at source.



ORIGINAL POST: Well...it will have a green roof. Hopefully.

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From http://www.planphilly.com/node/8618 (snip):
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The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers says it's satisfied – again - with the archaeology done at the SugarHouse site and no further digging needs to happen before a permit is issued.

This doesn't mean the Corps is close to deciding whether or not to give SugarHouse the permit it needs to build its casino project as planned. The Corps also looks at environmental and other issues, and some are still outstanding. But if the Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission and federal Advisory Council on Historic Preservation concur with the Corps' assessment, it will mean SugarHouse has satisfied the federal requirement for a historical review of its Delaware Avenue.

“We're certainly hopeful, but we'll take our directions from the Army Corps,” said SugarHouse spokeswoman Leigh Whitaker.

While SugarHouse is pleased, some of the consulting parties – a group of local historians, neighborhood activists and archaeologists who advise the historic review process – are not.

“It's a farce,” consulting party Torben Jenk, a preservationist and amateur historian, said of the process.

The Corps previously announced its satisfaction with the dig last August. That action peeved the consulting parties, who were frustrated that the Corps had taken this step, and others, without an in-person meeting. This was especially true since many of the consulting parties – including Jenk and Philadelphia Archaeological Forum President Douglas Mooney – had long been dissatisfied with the archaeological work done by SugarHouse archaeologist consultant A.D. Marble of Conshohocken.
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PHILADELPHIA - March 27, 2009 - -- One of Philadelphia's proposed slot-machine casinos has received its first construction permit from the city.

Developers of the SugarHouse Casino were issued a foundation permit for the construction site on the Delaware River waterfront on Friday.

SugarHouse spokeswoman Leigh Whitaker says it will be a few weeks before developers are able to discuss a construction timeline, including laying the foundation.

Civic groups and city officials have challenged the locations of SugarHouse and the city's other proposed casino, Foxwoods Casino Philadelphia.
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Location: 1000 block of N. Columbus Boulevard, Philadelphia, PA
Tenant: SugarHouse Casino (no duh)
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Status: Permits & Site Prep Interim Phase Complete; Phase 1(A?) proposed
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2009, 9:14 PM
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NOw, this is just electronic gameas and slots, right? This place, for now, will not have any "real gaming tables for some time?
I hope I am wrong!
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2009, 9:18 PM
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The Sugar House font makes me think of Porky's and a 1960 Supermarket entrance at the same time....
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Its been a while since we talked about the riverfront development...but...did the casinos submit redesigns to better interact with the Praxis plan or was the Praxis plan around the casinos?
     
     
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Parking garage

WOW just what everyone always wanted on the water front a massive parking garage...lol......well at least it is going to bring in revenue for the city......I too hope there is a re-design in accordance with the Penn Praxis plans....
     
     
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If i recall, Penn Praxis doesn't have any teeth so Sugarhouse can build what they want as long as they get the permits from the city
     
     
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Yes indeed. Penn Praxis has no physical teeth whatsoever insofar as already-permitted developments are exempted from the plan. Nutter has endorsed it, though, and several of its early recommendations are moving forward. Insofar as SugarHouse is concerned, though, they do have the ability to build and ignore the city, but I'm hopeful the city can prevail upon them for better massing/siting on their spot.
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Is this really under construction? Or are they still digging for historical importances?
     
     
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Those look like cars, not trees, on top of the parking garage. Piece of crap!
     
     
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Is this really under construction? Or are they still digging for historical importances?
No building yet. They just got a key permit, though.

What I would to improve this...
1.) Make the garage smaller.
2.) Make the garage smaller.
3.) Bring it out to the street.
4.) Stick some retail on its streetside.
5.) Put a walking trail between it and the river.
6.) Make the garage smaller.
7.) Put a green roof on top of the garage.
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i thought i remember reading something saying that the parking was going to be moved away from the casino and they were working with the penn praxis recommendations.
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From http://www.metro.us/us/article/2009/...8-85/index.xml:
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The state Gaming Control Board will hear from the two developers planning to build slots parlors in the city this week to find out where their long-delayed plans stand.

The status hearing is on Wednesday morning in Harrisburg.

A state court last month put a special master in charge of overseeing the SugarHouse Casino project to make sure the city wasn't slowing it from starting to build. The city issued the casino a foundation permit to begin work late last month.

Meanwhile, Foxwoods Casino is still putting its plans together to attempt to get state approval to build its project on Market East instead of along the Delaware River waterfront.
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From http://www.planphilly.com/node/8633
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PGCB time change flap, more blame game

The starting time of Wednesday’s Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board meeting – at which SugarHouse and Foxwoods casino interests have been asked to detail why they have yet to open – has been moved up from 11 a.m. to 9:30 a.m.

The switch angered some local activists who plan to show up by the busload and believe the time change was made to discourage Philadelphia residents from making the trip to Harrisburg. But the Control Board says the change was necessary to get other business out of the way, and the Philadelphia casino discussion won’t happen until about 11 a.m.

“We find it already shameful that the PGCB plans to hold a public meeting on Philadelphia casinos outside our city,” says a press statement released by Asian Americans United on Friday. "In addition, the PGCB has announced that there will be no opportunity for public comment. But this latest move further demonstrates PGCB’s determination to thwart public participation.”

Gaming Control Board spokesman Doug Harbach said the PGCB has a full agenda, and so it decided to start early so the meeting doesn’t run too late. The items not related to SugarHouse and Foxwoods will be dealt with first, he said, and so the discussion that many from Philadelphia want to hear “is not going to happen until 11 or later, anyway,” he said.

AAU also questions why there will be no public comment period. Harbach said this is standard procedure at a regular board meeting. The Board has held regular meetings outside of Harrisburg, Harbach said, but that involves spending state money on travel and overnight accomodations - expenses that won't be incurred during this budget crunch. If this was a hearing on a petition regarding a Philadelphia casino, the meeting would be held in Philadelphia, he said. Hearings also include time for public comment period.

“If (a Philadelphia casino) requests a significant change to the condition of their license, such as moving to a different location, we will come into the city,” he said.

A hearing is likely on the horizon for both SugarHouse and Foxwoods. SugarHouse’s operating license expired late last year. The casino has asked for an extension. There will be a hearing, which has not yet been scheduled, before the board makes a decision.

Foxwoods’ operating license will expire this summer. Foxwoods’ license is for a site at Columbus Boulevard and Reed Street, along the riverfront in South Philadelphia. But under pressure from the city, Foxwoods agreed to explore an alternative location: Either at the Burlington Coat Factory or the former Strawbridge’s site at Market East.

City officials once hoped to persuade SugarHouse to move off of the waterfront, too. But they have recently said they have given up that effort, and now hope to convince the casino to make some design changes that will make the slots operation more compatible with the city’s long-term goals for waterfront development.

Harbach said he tried to reach Casino-Free Philadelphia this morning to alert them of the reasons for the time change Wednesday, and that State Rep. Michael O’Brien was trying to reach AAU board member Helen Gym.

Both casinos have blamed city government for delays in construction. Each took that argument to the State Supreme Court. The administration denies stalling and says it wants to get SugarHouse and Foxwoods up and running as quickly as possible. The High Court sided with the casinos in both cases and appointed a Special Master to act as a go-between as the casinos deal with the city.

Friday afternoon, O'Brien and Sen. Lawrence Farnese announced that they wrote to the Gaming Control Board with their observations on why Philadelphia does not yet have an open casino.

The Board should blame the casinos, not the city or others who “have intervened on behalf of affected residents” for the delays, a press statement says.

Both lawmakers oppose the board-approved riverfront locations for SugarHouse and Foxwoods and are working to have the casinos relocated to other sites within Philadelphia.
In their letter, O'Brien and Farnese elaborated on various permits the gaming operators have not received for their sites. "Sugarhouse has chosen its location, a location fraught with problems which seems to have no end in sight," the letter states.

The letter says Foxwoods’ original chosen location also has many problems, and the legislators are pleased that Foxwoods is now focused on a new location.

But Asian Americans United, Casino-Free Philadelphia, and other groups that have fought against the casinos hate the Market East site, too. They say that just like the waterfront sites, Market East is too close to residential neighborhoods.

The location of Wednesday's Gaming Control Board meeting remains the same:The State Museum Auditorium at 303 North Street in Harrisburg. The PGCB moved the meeting to the auditorium in expectation of a large crowd.
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With respect to a potential redesign in alignment with the Penn-Praxis recommendations, SugarHouse said at one point it'd be open to reconsidering their plans. But that was a few months back and could have been an empty statement. Who knows.
     
     
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From today's Metro:
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What’s different?

The updated plan from SugarHouse is set back from the Delaware River and includes pedestrian access around it. The changes also preclude developers from needing certain permits from the Army Corps of Engineers.
CITY HALL. SugarHouse Casino is hoping for state approval to build an interim casino that could open as soon as next spring — as long as they can get the cash for it.

Developers of the long-delayed project along the Delaware River waterfront unveiled plans yesterday endorsed by Mayor Michael Nutter that would create a 40,000 square-foot casino surrounded by parking lots, which could eventually expand into a development with retail, residential and a hotel.

But developers admitted yesterday that they still need the cash for the project after their financing with defunct Merrill Lynch fell through.

“We don’t anticipate it will be difficult,” said SugarHouse Casino President Bob Sheldon.

The project was approved in December 2006, but has been stalled by city and state officials. The casino sent a petition to the state Gaming Control Board yesterday to get approval for it’s requested changes. Sheldon said SugarHouse could begin construction within four months of state and city approval, while the first phase of the project — included a 3,265-car garage and expanded gaming floor — will take at least two years. There’s no guarantee that the full project, including residential and retail extending to Delaware Avenue, will ever be built.

Opponents of the casino took yesterday’s news that SugarHouse doesn’t yet have financing as a positive.

“We think the resdesign is a ploy to buy more time so they can get financing,” said Paul Boni, an attorney for Casino-Free Philadelphia. “How convenient it is that they now redesign, that after two years of refusing any sort of request, they now suggest a redesign that is going to take time, umpteen more months to approve?”
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The links at the bottom of the Plan Philly article here give jpgs and pdfs of both the old design and the new one. Looking at the new design, which is in a 3-phase cycle btw (Interim, I, and II), while I'm still not thrilled about having a casino on the riverfront here, the final product we'll be getting with this design will, at least, be better than the previous design.
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She does not like the casino design? I am shocked. I think people get to hung up on the design and parking garage. I'll ask again. What is there now? Lets get some activity down there and see where it goes. I'm all for designing to incorporate the river and trails and whatever but this is a start. Don't forget that the Delaware is an industrial river and though severly scaled back down from its height of activity it is still a heavily used industrial area. There isnt a whole lot wrong with having the Delaware not be as pretty as the Schuylkill as long as it is used. Go the the Schuylkill for your running, biking, scenery loving and go to the Delaware for your nightlife. (casino, bars, clubs strip and otherwise)
     
     
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Why would Fox Chase even consider moving down to the Delaware? If anything the would move out of the city after what the had to deal with regarding the city. They want to expand in their current location. They can't build up due to height restrictions. They can't build out so that people can hit golf balls or play frisbee? Hundreds of well paying jobs will leave this city because of BS.
     
     
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Great move, can't wait for construction, when will it officially start?
     
     
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