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Old Posted May 7, 2008, 5:43 AM
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AUSTIN | GreenWater | 4 Towers | 39 FLOORS | 38 FLOORS | 35 FLOORS | 28 FLOORS

Bid proposals have been released today for the redevelopment of the Tom Green Water Treatment Plant and Austin Energy Electrical Substation in downtown Austin. Five companies are bidding for the project that will add hundreds of thousands of square feet of mixed use space including up to 1,000 condominiums and apartments and even a brand new downtown full purpose grocery store.

The City of Austin is expected to select a proposal in June. Construction would start in about three years since the aging water treatment facility would have to be replaced.

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Big plans for Green Water Treatment Plant
Five big names with five big plans for Green Water Treatment Plant

By Kate Miller Morton

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

Wednesday, May 07, 2008

Proposals for the redevelopment of the Green Water Treatment Plant and Austin Energy Control Center are in, and no matter who wins, big changes are coming to the landscape and skyline of downtown Austin.

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http://www.statesman.com/news/conten...0507green.html


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Renderings and map of area with details of each project.

Trammel Crow Proposal:
Number of buildings: 6
Tallest tower: 55 floors
Residential use: 1,406,750 square feet.
Office use: 588,000 square feet
Hotel use: 350,000 square feet
Retail use: 175,000 square feet
Total: 2,519,750 square feet
Parking spaces: 5,200 spaces.

MITHUN <-- Architectural firm designing the project.

Catellus Development Group Proposal:
Number of buildings: 5
Tallest tower: 36 floors
Residential use: 1,191,900 square feet
Office use: 500,000 square feet
Hotel use: 0 square feet
Retail use: 198,000 square feet
Other: N/A
Total: 1,889,900 square feet
Parking spaces: 3,364 spaces

CATELLUS DEVELOPMENT GROUP

Forest City Proposal:
Number of buildings: 5
Tallest tower: 41 floors
Residential use: 1,556,800 square feet
Office use: 460,800 square feet
Hotel use: 155,000 square feet
Retail use: 193,217 square feet
Other use: N/A
Total: 2,365,817 square feet
Parking spaces: 4,269 spaces

BOSSE AND TURNER ARCHITECTS

Simmons Vedder proposal:
Number of buildings: At least 2.
Tallest tower: 36 floors
Residential use: 884,000 square feet
Office use: 1,190,650 square feet
Hotel use: 0 square feet
Retail use: 131,500 square feet
Other use: 60,450 square feet
Total: 2,266,600 square feet
Parking spaces: 3,431 spaces.

COTERA AND REED ARCHITECTS

Stratus Properties proposal:
Number of buildings: 6
Tallest tower: 54 floors
Residential use: 1,356,940 square feet
Office use: 175,000 square feet
Hotel use: 150,480 square feet
Retail use: 272,900 square feet
Other use: 10,000 square feet
Total: 1,965,320 square feet
Parking spaces: 3,875 spaces.

Larry Speck/PIRATE DESIGN

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Looks like 360 is going to get some company.
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Old Posted May 8, 2008, 2:41 AM
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Updated aerial renderings showing two of the projects in the skyline.

I've also added some more information above each rendering in my first post above that was released today in the print edition of the article. Three of the proposals have a 55, 54 and 41 story tower proposed. The other two are proposing 36 floor towers for their tallest.

Catellus Development Group Proposal:
Number of buildings: 5
Tallest tower: 36 floors
Residential use: 1,191,900 square feet
Office use: 500,000 square feet
Hotel use: 0 square feet
Retail use: 198,000 square feet
Other: N/A
Parking spaces: 3,364 spaces

CATELLUS DEVELOPMENT GROUP

Trammel Crow Proposal:
Number of buildings: 6
Tallest tower: 55 floors
Residential use: 1,406,750 square feet.
Office use: 588,000 square feet
Hotel use: 350,000 square feet
Retail use: 175,000 square feet
Parking spaces: 5,200 spaces.

MITHUN <-- Architectural firm designing the project.
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Also, in this rendering you'll notice they also included a silhouette rendering of two other buildings to the right. The tower on the left is the 30-story ~450 foot Museum Tower. That will be a 500,000 square foot office tower. To its right is the W Austin Hotel & Residences which is under construction now and will be 478 feet tall with 37 floors.
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I like that Trammel Crow proposal best.
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I like that Trammel Crow proposal best.
Think of how great that will look from the new park.

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Visit the City of Austin's page on the redevelopment of the Thomas C. Green Water Treatment Plant and Seaholm Power Plant at the link below. Includes renderings and details of the project.
http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/seaholm/green.htm
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Ok, so here is the first round of photos of the models I took at city hall. They actually weren't models, just posters. I've mixed in a few of the actual renderings (screen shots) from the PDF file presentation.

Stratus Properties Inc.

Building heights:

650 foot, 54 floor residential tower
425 foot, 40 floor residential tower
385 foot, 36 floor tower
292 foot, 26 floor office tower
257 foot, 20 floor residential tower
223 foot, 18 to 20 floor hotel tower

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223 foot, 18-20 story office tower.


425 foot, 40-story residential tower.




292 foot, 26-story residential tower.


257 foot, 23-story hotel tower.


650 foot, 54-story residential tower.








Museum Tower. The tower behind and to the right is the 40-story Block 51 tower.
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292 foot, 26-story office tower.


I think this is residential, judging by the narrow floor plate and balconies.

257 foot, 23-story residential tower.


I think this one is actually the office. Note the wider floor plate and lack of balconies.


Museum Tower (Intel Site) included in the rendering. The tower behind and to the right is the 40-story Block 51 tower.
Museum Tower is on the AMOA site, between AMLI II and Republic Square. Intel was on the west side of Republic Square.

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It looks to me like Shoal Creek is also going to get a Make-over judging by that one rendering that shows the creek with 360 in the background. Just think Shoal Creek could be the more natural version of a riverwalk through downtown and Waller Creek would be the urban built up version.
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H20,

Yeah, I meant to say the Museum Tower is the AMOA block. The Intel site is where the new federal courthouse is going.

As for those two buildings I mentioned, you were right, at least about the residential building. I went back and looked at the diagram that Stratus had included in their presentation. The 292 foot building is a residential building. The 257 foot building is a hotel though. The 223 foot building must be the office building. That building isn't shown in the skyline rendering. It's immediately north of the 425 foot building. One of the renderings above shows it with 360 Condominiums.



Here is the diagram.
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H20,

Yeah, I meant to say the Museum Tower is the AMOA block. The Intel site is where the new federal courthouse is going.

As for those two buildings I mentioned, you were right, at least about the residential building. I went back and looked at the diagram that Stratus had included in their presentation. The 292 foot building is a residential building. The 257 foot building is a hotel though. The 223 foot building must be the office building. That building isn't shown in the skyline rendering. It's immediately north of the 425 foot building. One of the renderings above shows it with 360 Condominiums.



Here is the diagram.
WOW...the 830' 6th & Brazos (T. Stacy's) tower seems only 20'-30' taller than the 683'-tall Austonian...
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I'm "okay" with the plan if they actually construct buildings identical to the ones presented in the pdf.
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WOW...the 830' 6th & Brazos (T. Stacy's) tower seems only 20'-30' taller than the 683'-tall Austonian...
Remember that there were two different designs and two different heights for T. Stacy's project. The taller (current?) one was 830 feet with 70 floors, while the one shown in that drawing was announced as 705 feet tall with 47 floors.
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Remember that there were two different designs and two different heights for T. Stacy's project. The taller (current?) one was 830 feet with 70 floors, while the one shown in that drawing was announced as 705 feet tall with 47 floors.
The taller proposal is the "current" one. However, not sure if it will ever be built on Tom's watch.
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Oh wow, it's Austin's version of the Hudson Yards. This city really is experiencing a historic boom.
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I have hard time understanding this this boom. Despite of the current U.S. economic/financial situation, these amazing major project announcements just keep coming. And the biggest proposals announced over the past three years continue to break ground and are often even bigger than the original plans.
     
     
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The city staff is recommending the Trammel Crow Proposal to the city council...
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I have hard time understanding this this boom. Despite of the current U.S. economic/financial situation, these amazing major project announcements just keep coming. And the biggest proposals announced over the past three years continue to break ground and are often even bigger than the original plans.
Texas hasn't been hit as hard as rest of the country by the subprime mortgage crisis. It really comes down to basic economics. Austin still has the demand for these kind of projects but no existing supply. This demand for urban projects has increased in recent years the supply and construction will continue until that demand is supplied.
     
     
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City picks Trammell Crow to redevelop Green Water Treatment Plant
Officials says that development team agreed to pay the city $57.9 million for project.

By Kate Miller Morton

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

Wednesday, June 18, 2008

The Austin City Council on Wednesday unanimously chose Trammell Crow and its partners Constructive Ventures and USAA for the single biggest development project ever to take place downtown.

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http://www.statesman.com/news/conten...0619green.html
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