noirish Los Angeles - Page 944

FredH · #**18861** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 5:38 AM**

June 1966 - Looking south on Olive Street from 3rd Street. The building under demolition is the Casa Alta, formerly the Palace Hotel
and the Kellogg, at 317 South Olive Street. The brick structure behind is the 1923 Mutual Garage at corner of Olive Street and 4th Street.

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Lorendoc · #**18862** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 5:40 AM**

HossC's recent post on the Harrington trip to Yosemite included the following:

...which looked familiar. "Prescott Pass" did not ring any bells. But I recognized it as a place 3940dxer and Mrs. 3940dxer and I had visited on an exploration a few months ago:

(apologies for the bad cell phone picture).

Google Earth

I just wrote a long post about Beale's Cut only to see that it was already thoroughly discussed last year by Tourmaline and others. Long post deleted.

I will (re)mention this pretty amazing web site, http://www.elsmerecanyon.com/bealesc...scutmovies.htm, has links to clips of movies made at Beale's Cut.

A piece of evidence that the first picture was indeed Beale's Cut can be seen by checking the dates on the rest of the pictures at the California State Library. The party started out on June 11, 1901 from Los Angeles and camped in Burbank that night. The "Prescott Pass" photo is dated June 12, and on June 14, there is a photo taken at the "de Cellis ranch" where the travelers had a "genuine Spanish supper." This was likely near the Tejon pass: Eulogio de Celis had been granted a patent to the Rancho Ex-Mission de San Fernando in 1873, which lands he had acquired in 1846 from the Mexican government. So the timing is right for the Harringtons to have been at Beale's Cut on the 12th.

ethereal_reality · #**18863** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 5:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

725 S. Hill Street

ebay
Ever have lunch at The Eat 'N Shop on Hill Street? (notice all the gladiolas along the right wall)
It must have been a colorful place.
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I just came across this matchbook for the Eat 'N Shop.

ebay

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ethereal_reality · #**18864** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 5:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ninja55

E_r, could you tell me how and where you located this on eBay?

It's been quite some time ago Ninja55. I've had it in my files for at least a year. (I didn't buy the item)
If my memory serves me..Bert Rovere was a relative of yours. I wish I had let you know. -sorry

ebay

FredH · #**18865** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 5:58 AM**

Last old house on Bunker Hill Avenue -1966

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FredH · #**18866** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 6:08 AM**

DWP Building -1962

http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/7640/rec/24

FredH · #**18867** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 6:25 AM**

1962 - Standing on Grand Avenue, looking up at the back of South Bunker Hill Avenue. Left to right: large brick Alto Hotel, 251-253 South
Grand Avenue; 246 and 244 South Bunker Hill Avenue; the Brousseau Mansion, 238 South Bunker Hill Avenue; and 233 South Grand Avenue.

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FredH · #**18868** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 6:30 AM**

1961 - 221 South Olive Street. Built in 1887 by real estate developer Herman F. Baer. Possibly designed by Samuel and Joseph C. Newsom. Demolished in 1964.

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FredH · #**18869** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 6:46 AM**

1961 - Looking on Grand Avenue from north of 3rd Street. Left to right: the Alto Hotel at 251 South Grand Avenue; home at 245 South Grand Avenue; Hotel Cortez at 243 South Grand Avenue.

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According to the caption, this is supposed to be the Hotel Cortez

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Lorendoc · #**18870** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 6:47 AM**

Thank you e_r for those pictures of the Jade (and while I'm at it, thanks to FredH for the harrowing flood pictures.)

Here is a photo of The Jade from Ebay:

"Understated" does not seem to be the right word for it.

I have found out a little bit about this place from an unexpected source: the "General Crime Survey: Los Angeles" issued by the FBI on April 15, 1945. It described Larry Potter as a suspected murderer who had left Utah when it got too hot for him during Prohibition, and ended up in Los Angeles as a front man for dubious night clubs. One of these was The Jade at 6619 Hollywood Boulevard.

The FBI stated that the license to operate the "Jade" was issued to Paul Kalmanowitz and Nathan Sherry, ex-NY cop and some-time pal of Mickey Cohen. The Jade, says the FBI, has "the reputation with Los Angeles vice officers as being a hang out for homosexuals. It had the same reputation with military and naval authorities."

The FBI went on to say that 10 years ago [1935] Paul Kalmanowitz worked as a car parker at the 12th street garage. He saved a little money and bought into an eating establishment known as "Jerry's Joint" [! - we have seen this place before in NLA as "Jerry's Joynt"] in Chinatown. The agent said that Kalmanowitz is the type of person who always makes money, that he has a cheerful, pleasant personality.

I will try to write some more about the Jade and its denizens, if people are interested.

FredH · #**18871** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 7:03 AM**

1961 - Home at 512 West 2nd Street. The Mission Apartments at the corner below have been demolished, as have 508 West 2nd Street immediately below to the left.

http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/6293/rec/49

Two different style street lamps in front

http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/6293/rec/49

FredH · #**18872** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 7:24 AM**

1966 - The Olive Inn at 337 South Olive Street. The Mutual Garage is to the left. The new Union Bank under construction in the distance.
The service garage in the background is the one that was built in April of 1917 on the 347 South Grand Avenue site of the Brunson Mansion.

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FredH · #**18873** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 7:39 AM**

1957 - Looking east on 1st Street, through the intersection at Olive Street. The Gladden Hotel entrance fronts Olive Street.
Olive Court to the right has been cleared; the Moore Cliff building can be seen behind the trees undergoing demolition.

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ethereal_reality · #**18874** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 3:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Lorendoc

I will try to write some more about the Jade and its denizens, if people are interested.

That would be great !

GaylordWilshire · #**18875** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 4:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Three tiers of Victorian elegance.

ebay

The Hamilton was at 521 S Olive, where the Biltmore stands today.

LA Herald Oct 27, 1895

Front and rear views of the Hamilton

USCDL

LA Times April 12, 1914

Hollywood Graham · #**18876** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 6:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by FredH

Montrose - La Canada flooding - 1934

It all started out badly on January 1st:

L.A. Times

L.A. Times

Then they got hit again on October 17th:

L.A. Times

Now here is a guy you have to admire:

He got flooded out in January, 1934:

L.A. Times

He got flooded out again in October, 1934:

L.A. Times

He is not only back in business again, but ready for the next flood - December, 1934:

L.A. Times

I lived at the bottom of Ramsdell Av below Honolulu for over 25 years starting in 1970. While excavation rocks to plant or build walls from the rocks I discovered many items ranging from milk bottles, medicine and alcohol prescription bottles to lug nuts for 20's-30's cars. Lot of stuff still buried in the area I bet.

unihikid · #**18877** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 7:12 PM**

Great post FredH thanks

FredH · #**18878** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 7:22 PM**

1957 - Standing on Flower Street north of Court Street, facing east toward the Civic Center. White Victorian home
at 236 North Flower Street. The background center home was at 211 North Hope Street and the green building at
right was at 209 North Hope Street.

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http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6250/rec/8

1961 - Looking south at 343 South Bunker Hill Avenue.

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Martin Pal · #**18879** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 7:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Lorendoc

I will try to write some more about the Jade and its denizens, if people are interested.

Yes please!

belmont bob · #**18880** Posted **Jan 15, 2014, 8:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by FredH

1961 - Home at 512 West 2nd Street. The Mission Apartments at the corner below have been demolished, as have 508 West 2nd Street immediately below to the left.

http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/6293/rec/49

Two different style street lamps in front

http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/6293/rec/49

A lot of pictures of the old and tired homes, apartments/hotels from Bunker Hill lately and through the peeling paint and dirt and grime, unkempt yards and junk…the real beauty still shows through. Thanks so much, I love um.