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Old Posted Mar 11, 2017, 3:43 AM
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This intricate piece of urban fabric will soon be lost to a bland uniform podium.

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He wants it killed because he feels there's too much traffic in the area, and I want it killed because there's too little historic character and scale in the area.

But we all want this proposal to be killed, so why argue?

This proposal represents the worst aspects of development in Chicago – too little regard for preservation, too little regard for street level presence.

I wonder if there's a smart way to incentivize minimal parking in the area covered by the Neighborhood Opportunity Fund bonus density program?

I love what TOD is doing for the neighborhoods, but at this point it seems like the area from Cermak to North, west to Halsted should be prohibitive to excess parking storage.
On THAT...we can agree.
     
     
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No, you don't agree with that. You've stated in the past, in classic NIMBY fashion, that we need more parking, not less...

anyway, the complete ignorance of urban planning and city development that you always project in your once every few year statements worrying about the horrors of congestion outside your downtown condo and your, most likely, concern over losing your views, is not only tiresome but dangerous in its misinformation spewing...
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2017, 2:27 PM
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^ Some people either didn't get the memo or are in denial of the fact that adding more parking increases congestion.

But that is what happens when NIMBYs decide that they can be do-it-yourself urban planners, and that they know better than the experts.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2017, 3:49 PM
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No, you don't agree with that. You've stated in the past, in classic NIMBY fashion, that we need more parking, not less...

anyway, the complete ignorance of urban planning and city development that you always project in your once every few year statements worrying about the horrors of congestion outside your downtown condo and your, most likely, concern over losing your views, is not only tiresome but dangerous in its misinformation spewing...
Actually, my view wouldn't be affected at all. Also, I walk everywhere in the City and the driving part is only an observation as well. Alderman Reilly, in 2014 discussed/opined that the lack of parking would force people to use public transportation. I don't see that happening. I do see more taxi activity and huge volumes of Uber traffic more than making up for the additional cars that parking would attract.

One big factor discussed the last time this proposal came up is ...where will the taxis and cars queue up? It would require a cut out (curb cut) that has not been allowed in that area. (in the past several years, condos have had their curb cut requests denied...even for handicapped access)

Now you may call that "misinformation spewing?" But these are simple facts and considerations that have nixed this project before. We'll see. The ad hominem stuff is the only tiresome thing here.
     
     
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This building is pretty mediocre in design, and in being built tears down some wonderful historical buildings. I say "death to this project!" please
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2017, 10:58 PM
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Giordano's Building at 740 Rush stays

The Carillon is the name of the tower.
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Giordano's Building at 740 Rush stays

The Carillon is the name of the tower.
Facade only - right ?
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2017, 11:29 PM
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Facade only - right ?
The east-west 5 bays stay.
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I Like it.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2017, 11:32 PM
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I take back everything that was said..build it!... a lesson for us to not judge from just 1 picture
     
     
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Was there any discussion of the row homes?.... either a) building around them, or b) moving them?

Or is their fate pretty much sealed by an inevitable date with the wrecking ball?


Btw, I do like the new renders.


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Old Posted Mar 13, 2017, 11:54 PM
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Was there any discussion of the row homes?.... either a) building around them, or b) moving them?

Or is their fate pretty much sealed by an inevitable date with the wrecking ball?


Btw, I do like the new renders.


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Old Posted Mar 14, 2017, 12:01 AM
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Wow, that's much more interesting than the initial images suggested. What is the purpose of the encasing trellis structure? Is that to mask an armada of balconies? Quite interesting.
     
     
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Even with the much nicer design details and the sparing of the Giordano building, I'm not into this. Build it somewhere else, kill the podium extension, and make it straight down from the tower.
     
     
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Glad I supported it from the get go. This is gorgeous. Build it.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2017, 1:10 AM
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The arched elements on top of the tower are structural.

The X-bracing you see at the base, those columns rise up and arch over and are apart of the actual structure.
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