AUSTIN | ABIA Updates - Page 444

ILUVSAT · #**8861** Posted **Oct 28, 2023, 7:37 PM**

Yeah. The German economy is in the can too.

FWIW...I had a friend return from Europe recently utilizing this route (FRA-AUS). He said the flight was full.

ATX2030 · #**8862** Posted **Oct 28, 2023, 11:18 PM**

Lufty has decent loads and CASM so perhaps they might stay for a bit depending on the economy. Time will tell.

Would not be shocked to say the least if KLM pulls out though cause they aren't doing so hot.

In the end BA might be the only TATL carrier left standing at AUS. Heck even BA is reducing service.

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/231028-banw23inc

AA is also reducing capacity next year as well.

We vs us · #**8863** Posted **Oct 29, 2023, 12:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by ATX2030

Lufty has decent loads and CASM so perhaps they might stay for a bit depending on the economy. Time will tell.

Would not be shocked to say the least if KLM pulls out though cause they aren't doing so hot.

In the end BA might be the only TATL carrier left standing at AUS. Heck even BA is reducing service.

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/231028-banw23inc

AA is also reducing capacity next year as well.

Not that I want to see us fall back in intensity, but it might give us a short breather to get the accelerated expansion schedule nailed down.

ahealy · #**8864** Posted **Oct 29, 2023, 2:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by We vs us

Not that I want to see us fall back in intensity, but it might give us a short breather to get the accelerated expansion schedule nailed down.

Ohhh, how do you suspect that would help? I'm always trying to be Mr. Brightside, but that scares the crap out of me.

Mikey711MN · #**8865** Posted **Oct 29, 2023, 11:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by mars-man

Anyone know if this route is in trouble as well? I was looking recently at some European travel options for next summer, and unless I'm mistaken, AUS-FRA direct flights are no longer showing up on Google Flights. Same deal at Lufthansa's site.

Increasing from 4x to 5x weekly next summer from last I read. Perhaps you were looking for one of the days that they don't fly the route?

clubtokyo · #**8866** Posted **Oct 30, 2023, 3:26 AM**

According to the “Technology Reddit” Austin has completely collapsed and is officially dead with tech and that we are all broke and done.

futuresooner · #**8867** Posted **Oct 30, 2023, 7:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by Mikey711MN

Increasing from 4x to 5x weekly next summer from last I read. Perhaps you were looking for one of the days that they don't fly the route?

I did a random dummy booking leaving 1JUN and returning 14JUN and nonstops were showing.

Plus it would be pretty stark to give a press release of adding frequencies not even 2 months ago and the route be secretly canned.

ahealy · #**8868** Posted **Oct 30, 2023, 1:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by clubtokyo

According to the “Technology Reddit” Austin has completely collapsed and is officially dead with tech and that we are all broke and done.

I know little about the tech world but suspect it's a fat trimming for a lot of those "what the fuck do you do" kind of tech jobs you've heard about here from transplants.

WestAustinite · #**8869** Posted **Oct 30, 2023, 1:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by clubtokyo

According to the “Technology Reddit” Austin has completely collapsed and is officially dead with tech and that we are all broke and done.

That's hilarious.

mars-man · #**8870** Posted **Oct 30, 2023, 1:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mikey711MN

Increasing from 4x to 5x weekly next summer from last I read. Perhaps you were looking for one of the days that they don't fly the route?

Ah, you're right, thanks.

I did check a few specific dates but it looks like each of them happened to be on days off for the route. Apologies for any confusion, y'all.

ILUVSAT · #**8871** Posted **Oct 30, 2023, 2:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATX2030

Lufty has decent loads and CASM so perhaps they might stay for a bit depending on the economy. Time will tell.

Would not be shocked to say the least if KLM pulls out though cause they aren't doing so hot.

In the end BA might be the only TATL carrier left standing at AUS. Heck even BA is reducing service.

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/231028-banw23inc

AA is also reducing capacity next year as well.

Geez, man. They (BA) are reducing a lot of routes for "NW23." The AUS reduction is from Nov 19 - Feb 11. They are also changing the equipment on several routes. It's the slow season. This is normal.

ATX2030 · #**8872** Posted **Oct 30, 2023, 3:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

Geez, man. They (BA) are reducing a lot of routes for "NW23." The AUS reduction is from Nov 19 - Feb 11. They are also changing the equipment on several routes. It's the slow season. This is normal.

That's what I meant.

ATX2030 · #**8873** Posted **Oct 31, 2023, 5:37 PM**

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We vs us · #**8874** Posted **Nov 4, 2023, 3:32 PM**

Whoa.

AA cuts 21 routes at ABIA

https://viewfromthewing.com/american...g-the-flights/

mars-man · #**8875** Posted **Nov 4, 2023, 9:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by We vs us

Whoa.

AA cuts 21 routes at ABIA

https://viewfromthewing.com/american...g-the-flights/

Whoa indeed. Quite the shakeup. Here's another take:

https://onemileatatime.com/news/amer...ustin-flights/

futuresooner · #**8876** Posted **Nov 5, 2023, 1:12 PM**

You can only bleed so much for so long before you stop it. You can blame a myriad of things for it.

SproutingTowers · #**8877** Posted **Nov 6, 2023, 4:19 PM**

Pilots to blame?

https://viewfromthewing.com/how-amer...edium=facebook

ATX2030 · #**8878** Posted **Nov 6, 2023, 6:53 PM**

Safe to say the 10,000 sq. ft. Admirals Club AA was planning ain’t happening

FrankLloydLeft · #**8879** Posted **Nov 6, 2023, 6:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by mars-man

Whoa indeed. Quite the shakeup. Here's another take:

https://onemileatatime.com/news/amer...ustin-flights/

IF Delta's still considering filling their market gap with AUS, this is the flinch they've been waiting for.

With the second concourse expansion taking so long, and capacity continuing to be a major issue, freeing up the space from these routes could allow Delta to get a better footing in AUS in the long run.

If not, I still don't see this as the doom and gloom some on Airlines.net are making it out to be for us. It's not a good look by any means, but I don't think these routes contributed heavily to our overall growth in the way our recent international grabs have.

BNA, PDX and RDU are all flying markets similar to ours, and we are not seeing them experience a major growth in routes from any legacy carrier at this time.

Hell, this might entice Breeze to take a stab at flying to AUS with our gates less stressed with these cuts.

FrankLloydLeft · #**8880** Posted **Nov 6, 2023, 7:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATX2030

Safe to say the 10,000 sq. ft. Admirals Club AA was planning ain’t happening

That might still happen with the western expansion having room for a club if I'm remembering that correctly, and thanks to their current club being so small even prior to their recent growth at peak times.

Would be interesting if someone else swoops in for that space instead like Amex given the intense cutbacks on access with Deltas lounges.