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I mean, seriously...

Do you know how many log cabins exist in the world? Have you been to Tennessee? There are about a zillion. What makes these so special? Why not put some teepees in River North? Is there a we can get some Igloos at the Pearl Brewery? Add some of those geodesic domes from I-35 south of Dallas transported here to sit in front of the TOA?

I know, let's get all of the different types of obsolete structures and cluster them around the Hedrick Building. Then, we'll register the whole thing as an historic space. It may not be historic to us, but it must be to somebody.

HDRC...

Ok, actual question - isn't the BOA building all glass? I guess it was built before such rules were in place? (Or maybe glass is OK as long as its brown...)
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Add some of those geodesic domes from I-35 south of Dallas transported here to sit in front of the TOA?


Ok, actual question - isn't the BOA building all glass? I guess it was built before such rules were in place? (Or maybe glass is OK as long as its brown...)
Are you talking about those dome houses in Waxahachie lol?
BOAP isn't all glass. But One Riverwalk Place sure is!
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I think they got away with that either because it was before rules, its not technically in a historical district, or It was built in 1983 and I guess they never thought it was going to be a historical district, with One Riverwalk, and all the glass at the IBC and Whitacre Tower facing the river and being built after that.
With the HDRC in place, you would think that downtown would look more like this.

or this:

found those and a bunch of old postcards here.
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Man, if only River North could become something like that (complete with streetcar).
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Yeah, recreate Commerce 1920 to Broadway 2020.
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Are you talking about those dome houses in Waxahachie lol?
BOAP isn't all glass. But One Riverwalk Place sure is!
you know the ones i am talking about!!
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Public invited to meeting for the River North District Master Plan

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Man, if only River North could become something like that (complete with streetcar).
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The City of San Antonio Planning and Development Services Department, in partnership with the River North Planning Team, has scheduled a public meeting for community stakeholders to review and comment on recommended changes to the draft River North District Master Plan. The Public Meeting is scheduled for Monday, December 8 from 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. at the San Antonio Museum of Art, 200 W. Jones.

The City of San Antonio has sought to revitalize the River North area through a history of planning efforts, including the 1999 Downtown Neighborhood Plan. In December 2006, Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) #27 was created in order to implement district goals within the Downtown Neighborhood Plan. In 2007, planning consultant, Moule & Polyzoides, was selected as master planner for River North. An extensive series of charrettes and public workshops were held which resulted in a set of draft Master Plan documents.

This is the second public meeting for members of the community to review and provide comment on the draft Master Plan documents. The River North Planning Team has met regularly since July 2008 to review and recommend changes to the draft Master Plan document. The team’s review of the Master Plan has concluded, and this public meeting will provide an opportunity for neighborhood stakeholders to review and provide input on the recommended changes.

The River North Plan area is generally bound by I-35 to the north & northwest, I-37 to the east, Houston and Travis to the south and Navarro and Main to the west. The development of a Master Plan is a collaborative effort that involves many different community stakeholders. Master Plans are conceptual in nature and provide a general framework for development decisions. They are utilized by city officials, developers, city agencies, non-profits, etc. as guides that provide direction to the decision-making process.

For more information about the River North Master Plan, contact Andrea Gilles at 207-2736 or andrea.gilles@sanantonio.gov. The draft plan may be viewed at: http://www.sanantonio.gov/planning/featured_items.asp.
In case you guys are interested.
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you know the ones i am talking about!!
Yes I do, because I grew up 15 minutes away from Waxahachie lol.
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That is sad San Antonio looked better in 1920 then today.
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LMAO! thats hilarious, the funny thing I didn't even see what was wrong with it. I feel so ashamed. lol
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Well, I don't want to say it either...but...it still looks nice w/o the Marriott Rivercenter
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So, um, they think people are going to check into the Grand Hyatt and not notice the 38 story Marriott right across the street??
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I know-- it's weird, but the Alamo really does look better without the Marriott RC behind it-- SA looks almost tropical there, like Havana or something.
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you guys are crazy.

i'll give you this much - the look is cleaner. is that the flagship la quita there just to the left of the IMAX? is it really that short?
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That is the La Quinta. It looks about right. It is only 14 stories and somewhere between 125-140' tall. The IMAX in the foreground of the La Quinta, is between 75-90' tall. So it looks about right.

Though it is a nice looking picture, it doesn't look better without the Marriott. For the purposes of the photo it is an interesting idea to ommit it.
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you guys are crazy.

i'll give you this much - the look is cleaner. is that the flagship la quita there just to the left of the IMAX? is it really that short?
You are correct. Yeah its not much to look at thats for sure.


The pic above is pretty funny.. i noticed something wasnt right the instant i saw the pic.
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Here are some pics from Main Plaza dating back to the 1870's and up to the early 1900's.

1880's




1870's


1890's


1907




1880's, I say we destroy the new Main Plaza and restore its original setting.




Someone emailed me these, so I have no idea what book they came out of. I found them pretty interesting. So I thought I'd share.

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I was about to say this morning how we should tunnel Commerce and Dolorosa from Flores up to the edge of the River behind the Plaza and enclose the Plaza completely like it was. Make it look and feel a little more like the real thing and what it is supposed to be.
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Great pics STL! Those really just make HDRC seem even more useless, because in their desire to preserve all things "historical", they've created something with 1/10th the organic character and suitability of downtown at the turn of the century
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