The US Census Bureau thread - Page 98

Sun Belt · #**1941** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 1:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by Boisebro

map does seem inconsistent.

if they were using city population, salt lake would be smaller than boise.

What we're seeing here is map maker bias. Any guesses as to where they're from? I would say somewhere in the midwest or northeast. The South is home to 125 million, yet the map makes it appear as if it is sparsely populated.

JAYNYC · #**1942** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 1:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by Sun Belt

What we're seeing here is map maker bias. Any guesses as to where they're from? I would say somewhere in the midwest or northeast. The South is home to 125 million, yet the map makes it appear as if it is sparsely populated.

The map officially loses all credibility with me when you compare Austin to Daytona Beach, FL.

Sun Belt · #**1943** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 1:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by JAYNYC

The map officially loses all credibility with me when you compare Austin to Daytona Beach, FL.

Oh yeah, didn't even take notice of Daytona until you mentioned it. Austin looks like a speed hump.

iheartthed · #**1944** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 2:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by JAYNYC

The map officially loses all credibility with me when you compare Austin to Daytona Beach, FL.

It is using the 1990 populations.

JAYNYC · #**1945** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 2:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by iheartthed

It is using the 1990 populations.

Daytona Beach had a larger population than Austin in 1990?

iheartthed · #**1946** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 2:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by JAYNYC

Daytona Beach had a larger population than Austin in 1990?

Probably

Nautica · #**1947** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 4:22 PM**

Yeah, you must be correct since the 1990 census of Daytona was 62,000 and Austin's population was only 466,000.

Crawford · #**1948** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 4:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nautica

Yeah, you must be correct since the 1990 census of Daytona was 62,000 and Austin's population was only 466,000.

I find this very difficult to believe.

Daytona currently has over 650k residents. You're telling me there were only 60k in 1990?

sopas ej · #**1949** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 4:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Crawford

I find this very difficult to believe.

Daytona currently has over 650k residents. You're telling me there were only 60k in 1990?

Looks like city proper figures: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayton...a#Demographics

As of 2017, it's estimated that the city of Daytona Beach has about 68,000 people.

Crawford · #**1950** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 4:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by sopas ej

Looks like city proper figures: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayton...a#Demographics

OK, but city propers have nothing to do with anything. It's a map of population centers, not political boundaries.

Nautica · #**1951** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 4:45 PM**

OK, how's this 2014 MSA census for Daytona MSA is 609,939 and Austin's MSA in 1990 is 830,000.

iheartthed · #**1952** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 5:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nautica

OK, how's this 2014 MSA census for Daytona MSA is 609,939 and Austin's MSA in 1990 is 830,000.

Daytona Beach is located in a CSA of 3M people. The confusion is that we now consider Orlando to be the primary city. Maybe in 1990 it was Daytona Beach.

But you all could really start by actually reading the chart. It explains a lot of what you're arguing right there.

SteveD · #**1953** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 5:06 PM**

It's a 1990 map. Atlanta looks very small 30 years ago also. When my family relocated from the north to Atlanta in the mid 1970's the metro was about 1.6 million. It's 6 million now.

Centropolis · #**1954** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 5:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by JAYNYC

Am I the only one who thinks Atlanta looks relatively small in that graphic? To me, it looks smaller there than places like Kansas City, St. Louis and Cincinnati, and not nearly as large as places that it's more comparable to, like Houston and Dallas.

well, atlanta didnt pass st. louis until the late 80s and the census data is purportedly from 1990...well maybe it's actually 1980 census data, and would explain the big gap between dallas-ft. worth and atlanta. st. louis was in between dallas and atlanta in 1980. the metroplex was still way ahead of atlanta in 1990 too.

either way sloppy map.

Nautica · #**1955** Posted **Feb 12, 2019, 5:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartthed

Daytona Beach is located in a CSA of 3M people. The confusion is that we now consider Orlando to be the primary city. Maybe in 1990 it was Daytona Beach.

But you all could really start by actually reading the chart. It explains a lot of what you're arguing right there.

Ah, yes the Orlando CSA. Must've thrown me off by the name.

M II A II R II K · #**1956** Posted **Oct 16, 2019, 4:54 PM**

The New Geography of American Immigration

https://www.citylab.com/life/2019/10...h-data/599884/

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- America’s foreign-born population grew by slightly more than 200,000 people in 2017-18, the smallest increase yet since 2010. In other years this decade, the foreign-born population increased by more than twice that amount; in 2013-14, it grew by more than 1 million people, or roughly five times the 2017-18 increase. — Despite this recent slowing of growth, America’s total foreign-born population stands at an all-time high of close to 45 million. That’s 13.7 percent of all the people in the United States—a share that’s about one percentage point lower than the all-time high of 14.7 percent, back in 1910, reflecting the great immigration wave of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

- Metros in the South and Rust Belt saw the biggest gains, while some large coastal metros on the East Coast, plus the San Francisco Bay Area, Los Angeles, and Chicago, saw considerable declines. — Immigration has become more Asian and less Hispanic, as well. Latin Americans represented the lion’s share of new U.S. immigrants before 2010, but since then, the share of Asians has risen. — Despite the shift to more highly educated adult immigrants, America continues to see significant declines in international students coming to its universities and colleges. Immigrants make up a disproportionate share of leading scientists and founders of high-tech companies. Current and future generations of such foreign-born talent are either staying at home or choosing more open countries.

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subterranean · #**1957** Posted **Oct 16, 2019, 5:54 PM**

The western burbs of Portland, home to most of Intel's domestic operations (along with several other tech companies), might as well be called Little India. The Asian food options here are also pretty good!

CVG · #**1958** Posted **Oct 16, 2019, 10:53 PM**

Wonder what's going on in Alabama, most Southern states look to he seeing 15-20% growth in foreign born population, but in Alabama it shrunk by 3.6%.

edale · #**1959** Posted **Oct 16, 2019, 11:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by CVG

Wonder what's going on in Alabama, most Southern states look to he seeing 15-20% growth in foreign born population, but in Alabama it shrunk by 3.6%.

I mean, it's Alabama. Would you want to be an immigrant in Alabama? Really, would you want to be anything but straight, white, and christian in Alabama?

CVG · #**1960** Posted **Oct 17, 2019, 1:11 AM**

Which is why I chose to compare it to the rest of the South for context, even Mississippi is showing ok gains.