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Old Posted May 28, 2004, 4:48 PM
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How long date round the world does the financial center also have to let Pudong wait for: 2004-04-19 author: Wang Xixi originates: Eastern morning paper

Yesterday was Pudong develops opens the 14th anniversary commemoration day. Lu Jiazui stands in great numbers which in the tall building finance trade development zone, took of a Shanghai round the world financial center Pudong sign constructions, in has been through repeatedly for 7 years by to begin the process which arrives again after the work suspension resumes work, actually until now has not seen its trail. Facing outside all sorts of questions, project company °ľ°ľShanghai round the world financial center limited company vice- chairman of the board, General Manager Japanese bamboo Necker denied the project fund to have the question, and expressed the company was handling the capital capital to increase the capital procedure. After the Shanghai round the world financial center building in August, 1997 first officially laid a foundation, putd aside because of the financial crisis in Asia eruption. On February 13, 2003, the building hold resumes work the ceremony, and proposed 101, 492 meter new design altitudes, become the world first design altitude. In the same year on October 17, the Taibei 101 buildings highly become the global highest building by 508 meters. But believing of the bamboo Necker, the altitude which can mount by the person, but must added on the antenna, the Shanghai round the world financial center still for the world first altitude. But in 2003 second time begins the latter more than year, now also in makes the preliminary turret area hole excavated for building foundation surrounding protection project, saying of the bamboo Necker, this is because design proposal in examination and approval process. The financial center new plan designs in July, 2003 to plan the bureau examination and approval through the Shanghai government, on October 30 through expands at the beginning of designs, at present is carrying on the construction drawing design. The building by once designed the permanent prosperous square the American KFP design, because highly increased from 460 meters to 492 meters, the floor space increased 10% -20%, authenticated through the government department needs the quite long time. In June, 2003, after the Shanghai round the world financial center resumed work has made up more than 50 piles. In hereafter 9 months, has only constructed the scene temporary office building. Tongji University professor, national level of registrations architect Xue Wenguang tells reporter, likes the Shanghai round the world financial center such big executive project, (1 month) to expands from the plan design at the beginning of designs (for 2 months), the construction drawing design (3 months), the about half year sufficed. Regarding this, explanation the bamboo Necker said the time main flower in the government correlation department's many times examination and approval. Expression construction the bamboo Necker already again opened, but he refused to disclose the construction progress. The Shanghai round the world finance building by "the Shanghai round the world financial center limited company" the construction, this company by the woods building joint-stock company and the Japanese 33 banks, insures, the business organization and so on the cartel tenable legal person "the Shanghai round the world financial center investment joint-stock company" the sum total investment. In February, when 2003 second time begins, the building total investment cost increases from the original 75 billion Japanese Yen to 100 billion Japanese Yen (approximately 7.8 billion Renminbi). In a side golden cyclopentadiene building, then spends 560 million US dollars. Saying of the bamboo Necker, according to the foreign capital law, the foreign capital enterprise which invests in China helps the capital to have to achieve 1/3, therefore the Shanghai round the world financial center limited company registration capital is increasing from 25 billion Japanese Yen to 33 billion Japanese Yen above, the related procedure is handling. Bank financing including domestic and foreign banks, also had the European and American enterprise to express the interest. Expression the bamboo Necker, they do not have the money the question. Reporter reigned on the other day nearby the golden cyclopentadiene building job location notes, in the fence the continuously vacant work site started to construct, according to the security said nearby scene headquarters young Lou in the work shed had more than 600 labourers. Side the Bank of China building staff said that, recently a month, evening here was brilliantly illuminated, the cement pump vehicle passed in and out. In the location sign is writing: The ground plans 250 day to complete, the ground construction side is Long Yuan constructs the group, the ground design side is the ships industry ninth design research institute, overseeing is the Shanghai construction work design institute.
     
     
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Old Posted May 28, 2004, 4:56 PM
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Simple translation........Big Fat Nothing.

Do not get too excited about this going up. Some may say that a dead horse is being beaten.
     
     
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Old Posted May 29, 2004, 3:09 AM
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sounds like its finally being built. yay!
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2004, 2:57 PM
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May 29th 2004, from the Oriental Pearl.

Don't get too excited, very bad pic, dark and hazy weather you'll have to force contrast to be able to view something.

I'm not sure about what I see. Are they digging a cylindrical hole? Since last pic from the Oriental Pearl was on the 4th of april, many changes might have occurred. But this seems unusual in Lujiazui, I never saw this type of foundations there. Tell me what do you see/think.

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Old Posted Jun 16, 2004, 4:39 PM
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I don't see anything. I tried posting the URL as an image and just got a red cross.
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This server does not accept direct linking. To download the pic, You have to copy the url and past it in a new window.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2004, 5:26 PM
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It seems to be a low depth circular hole. Before the foundation was, as I remember, a rectangular hole filled with water. Not sure what they are doing...
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I believe they are building a circular underground wall in order to build the foundation. This seems to be similar to US7 in HK, which is rectangle at the building base but the hole is also circular.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2004, 11:02 AM
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the building total investment cost increases from the original 75 billion Japanese Yen to 100 billion Japanese Yen
... for a mere extra 30 m ?
Or because of the sinking problem ?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2004, 1:03 PM
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Wasn't the base of 2IFC a big circular hole too?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2004, 1:25 PM
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That's right.
A big circular hole and eight super-columns that remained unchanged for over six months.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2004, 6:55 PM
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Fabb, do you think the overcost is due to these complementary foundation works, because of the discovering of Shanghai ground resiliance?

Well at least, something spectacular is now happening on the plot! I only wish more people who climb up the Oriental Pearl turn their camera to the yard.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2004, 8:21 PM
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Found this pic in the skyscraperspage gallery : a wind tunnel model from the Skyscraper Museum in New York City. Beautiful isn't it!

     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2004, 9:18 PM
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Fabb, do you think the overcost is due to these complementary foundation works, because of the discovering of Shanghai ground resiliance?
Don't you think that it might be a possibility ?
And it might explain the delays, too.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2004, 2:53 AM
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avcellvs... that wind tunnel model of Jin Mao is cool in person. It has about 2,000 or so tiny holes that funnel the wind into the center where it is measured. You can see them: all the little copper looking tubes.
     
     
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Fabb, do you think the overcost is due to these complementary foundation works, because of the discovering of Shanghai ground resiliance?

Don't you think that it might be a possibility ?
And it might explain the delays, too.


Yes this sounds like a credible hypothesis. I rode the metro line particularily suffered from the ground resiliance problem in Lujiazui (in Puxi, an old house collapsed...). As the line passes under Century Avenue, very close to the WFC and the JinMao, a very special care may be needed. Hence these complementary works? Is there any new technique that allows to solve this question?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2004, 6:38 PM
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June 13th 2004, nice weather, rare view from the HSBC Tower.

Well, not any view on the WFC plot for two mounths then one per day!. Do enjoy this happy coincidence! It may well not last long....

It is a bit disappointing, the whole circular hole has not been dug , just half of it! . Does that mean we'll have to wait two more mounths before we see the building rise?

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Old Posted Jun 18, 2004, 6:43 PM
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There are few things i hate more than seeing a big hole dug when i'm waiting for a skyscraper to be built.
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2004, 7:30 PM
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Seems like it will be built eventually, though it is very very slow progress. From empty land now to this.

But it depends on what happen on Mori company I think, and in the minds of Mori's executives.
     
     
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Due to bandwidth limitations I had to stop hosting that file of SWFC. I think most of you have downloaded it anyways.
here guys, if someone still not watch it...
http://coth.hotbox.ru/video/shjinrongzhx.avi
sorry guys, hoster deleted video...
     
     
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