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Old Posted Dec 5, 2019, 9:49 PM
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Controversial Idea: Canada should annex Haiti

So unsurprisingly shit is still completely "off the chain" in Haiti: https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...-sinister-turn

This is literally one of the worst countries on earth to live in and it's right here in our region and nothing seems to be changing with it. It's a perpetual humanitarian crisis.

Therefore Haiti should become a province (or territory) of Canada. It would be a mutually beneficial. Haiti would get stability and investment, Canada would get the tropical region it always wanted.

This idea has already been put out there to some extent: https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...REP/story.html
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 5, 2019, 9:57 PM
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No thanks! However the Turks and Caicos have been interested in becoming our 11th province for 100 years now.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...-11th-province

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Actually The Turks could be a new English Province, and Haiti a new French one.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 5, 2019, 10:00 PM
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Hard no on Haiti. Turks and Caicos maybe
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM
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Given the condition of some First Nations communities here in Canada, I'm skeptical that we have the ability or perhaps the will to address the problems of a country over 2000km away with a population larger than Quebec.
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Old Posted Dec 5, 2019, 10:14 PM
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But honestly, the problem with Haiti isn't the lack of international involvement, but rather too much international involvement of the wrong type. I mean, they literally were forced to pay France enormous reparations for the losses France suffered as a result of Haiti fighting to free itself from slavery. Not to mention the various boycotts of other affluent countries, discriminatory trade and finance policies, etc. They've been actively sabotaged as a country from the start, and now they're being asked to voluntarily relinquish their sovereignty for their own benefit? As if too much sovereignty is the source of their problems?
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Old Posted Dec 5, 2019, 10:18 PM
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Not sure the calculator screens in Alberta are even wide enough for the number of zeros that Haiti-bound equalization payments would feature... we might run into technical problems there.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 5, 2019, 10:19 PM
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If we can't fix FN reserves how can we fix Haiti. Likely their descendants will just sue us for stealing their land and so and so.

The US should have never let Liberia go btw.
     
     
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If we're going to annex islands, how about the Canaries instead? They're nice. Or we could annex a string of small ones like Madeira, the Faroes, and Tahiti. Or maybe annex the Falklands, just to mess with the Argies ....

Although the most practical would be to annex Greenland, so we get it before the Americans take it over.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 5, 2019, 10:29 PM
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If we're going to annex islands, how about the Canaries instead? They're nice. Or we could annex a string of small ones like Madeira, the Faroes, and Tahiti. Or maybe annex the Falklands, just to mess with the Argies ....

Although the most practical would be to annex Greenland, so we get it before the Americans take it over.
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I can just see the headlines now: "With national unity at all-time low, Ottawa absorbs Haiti"

Seriously, we need to resolve the systemic issues on our FNs before we even consider picking up exotic islands so that wealthier Canadians have somewhere more convenient to vacation. Give me a break.
     
     
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If we're going to annex islands, how about the Canaries instead? They're nice. Or we could annex a string of small ones like Madeira, the Faroes, and Tahiti. Or maybe annex the Falklands, just to mess with the Argies ....

Although the most practical would be to annex Greenland, so we get it before the Americans take it over.
Don't forget St Pierre et Miquelon.
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I can just see the headlines now: "With national unity at all-time low, Ottawa absorbs Haiti"

Seriously, we need to resolve the systemic issues on our FNs before we even consider picking up exotic islands so that wealthier Canadians have somewhere more convenient to vacation. Give me a break.
No, no, no. Islands are like pearls. They're never inappropriate ....
     
     
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We're better off adding the poorest country in Africa. Odds are they'll at least have mineral resources we can exploit and the crime rate will likely be less.

Haiti is a massive dump/
     
     
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No thanks, why would we shackle ourselves to that flaming shitshow?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 6, 2019, 12:03 AM
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All the indigenous peoples of the Caribbean were wiped out by the Spaniards centuries ago. Perhaps aboriginal folks could be given the opportunity to relocate to Haiti. What could go wrong?
     
     
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No way would annexing Haiti ever be a good idea. The population of Haiti is almost 11 million people. That would expand our population by almost 30% and create a huge shock to the Canadian economy due to everyone wanting to leave Haiti for mainland Canada.

Turks and Caicos is a much better idea. The population is much smaller and they're already familiar with the idea of uniting with Canada.
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Old Posted Dec 6, 2019, 1:42 AM
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All the indigenous peoples of the Caribbean were wiped out by the Spaniards centuries ago. Perhaps aboriginal folks could be given the opportunity to relocate to Haiti. What could go wrong?
Haha I had that same cheeky thought as well.

But seriously, this should never be considered. There is no need for this country to take on anymore trouble than we already have.
     
     
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make this province 11 instead

     
     
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