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Old Posted Nov 25, 2019, 9:59 PM
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Wow, when you combine SF and SJ, they have almost double the amount of Indians than the next biggest metro, Chicago. I had no idea there were so many Indian people in the Bay. I go up to SF about 4-5 times a year, and I'd have never guessed the Indian population was so high. They don't seem to be very visible in the parts of SF I spend time in.
Along with Seattle it does seem that the Indian population in SF/SJ is almost entirely because of the tech industry.
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2019, 10:01 PM
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Indians are one of the most suburbanized ethnic groups in the US.
Also much more likely to move to inland areas and Red States than East Asians. In Atlanta and Dallas they are the largest Asians immigrant group.
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2019, 10:02 PM
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In BC, the Sikhs already had a long-time presence in places further inland in the lower mainland like Abbotsford (home of the first Sikh temple/gurdwara in Canada and North America as a whole). Does that explain why they are in places like Surrey or Delta, or is it a separate wave of movement where the Vancouver metro area and the Abbotsford area are different communities? Surely, both South and East Asians had their communities arrived across the Pacific and naturally had their immigration gateway closer to the coast than inland, right?

Suburban South Asian Canadians are more middle class or lower middle class/working class/manual laborers, and South Asian Americans are more upper middle class/professional, but for some reason, both are more suburban than urban.

So what explains this? It's not income alone, otherwise, you'd have well-off South Asians in the US in cities too, just like well-off whites or east Asians, or more working class South Asians in cities in Canada too, just like the working class of other minorities.

Do South Asians have a strong cultural preference for home ownership?

In California it does seem Sikhs are much more working class than Hindus who tend to be upper middle class professionals. Communities in the Central Valley for instance.
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2019, 10:04 PM
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I think in India until quite recently, the wealthy tended to own their own detached houses in affluent areas of Indian cities. The only exception would be Bombay/Mumbai, which was too expensive for detached houses even in the 1970s and 1980s. But generally it's more of the culture there.

The quality of life in Indian cities is very poor so if you have an association of urbanism with poverty your more likely to avoid the urban core. However there's also a trend of Chinese immigrants to the suburbs as well.
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2019, 5:33 PM
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Asian Growth between 2013 and 2018. Im only running numbers for MSAs with Asian populations over 100k:

San Francisco: 163,198
Los Angeles: 158,433
New York City: 144,983
Dallas/Fort Worth: 144,870
Seattle: 115,216
Houston: 109,341
San Jose: 99,194
Atlanta: 74,041
Boston: 71,317
Chicago: 70,738
Washington DC: 61,251
Philadelphia: 46,237
Sacramento: 43,468
Minneapolis/St Paul: 38,852
Riverside: 38,804
Detroit: 36,048
Austin: 35,526
Phoenix: 32,629
Portland: 32,239
Charlotte: 32,222
Las Vegas: 29,371
Denver: 26,161
Baltimore: 19,659
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 19,238
Tampa: 16,628
Orlando: 16,153
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Old Posted Dec 4, 2019, 9:51 PM
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Asian growth from 2013-2018 by metro area:

San Francisco:
China: 69,104
India: 67,900
Other Asian: 17,700
Veitnamese: 11,807
Filipino: 73
Korea: 1,553
Japan: -3,174

Los Angeles:
China: 90,874
India: 40,680
Filipino: 21,204
Vietnamese: 13,688
Other Asian: 5,228
Japan: -2,520
Korea: -15,834

New York City:
India: 65,705
China: 44,419
Other Asian: 21,165
Korea: 9,695
Filipino: 7,978
Japanese: 890
Vietnam: -1,470

Dallas/Fort Worth:
India: 80,799
Other Asian: 28,351
Vietnam: 13,610
Korea: 11,556
China: 7,824
Filipino: 2,428
Japanese: 754

Seattle/Tacoma:
China: 41,130
India: 40,968
Other Asia: 13,908
Vietnam: 9,709
Filipino: 8,282
Japan: 3,434
Korea: -308

Houston:
India: 39,135
China: 27,746
Vietnam: 24,884
Other Asia: 17,781
Filipino: 2,875
Korea: 2,510
Japan: 744

San Jose:
China: 46,705
India: 35,998
Other Asia: 8,138
Korea: 5,747
Japan: 2,564
Vietnam: 1,722
Filipino: -1,011

Atlanta:
India: 39,008
Other Asia: 12,962
China: 11,436
Vietnam: 7,740
Korea: 1,384
Japan: 789
Filipino: 3,938

Boston:
China: 35,733
India: 33,742
Vietnam: 6,027
Filipino: 1,311
Other Asia: 289
Korea: -1,897
Japan: -2,425

Chicago:
India: 52,402
Other Asia: 12,704
Vietnam: 9,677
China: 8,516
Japan: -839
Filipino: -1,930
Korea: -9,094

Washington DC:
India: 52,439
China: 10,930
Filipino: 3,803
Korea: 3,046
Vietnam: 1,724
Japan: 989
Other Asia: -12,333

Philadelphia:
India: 31,213
Other Asia: 16,281
China: 11,419
Japan: -889
Vietnam: -2,938
Filipino: -4,279
Korea: -7,038

Sacramento:
India: 19,630
China: 9,025
Filipino: 9,488
Vietnam: 4,926
Japan: 2,021
Korea: 550
Other Asia: -1,037

Minneapolis/St. Paul:
Other Asia: 14,016
India: 10,859
China: 5,726
Filipino: 2,100
Japan: 1,145
Vietnam: 786
Korea: 275

Detroit:
India: 24,183
Other Asia: 7,369
China: 4,308
Korea: 1,947
Filipino: 576
Japan: 359
Vietnam: -2,576

Riverside:
Filipino: 25,804
China: 15,959
Korea: 795
India: 632
Other Asia: 1,055
Japan: -249
Vietnam: -3,158

Austin:
India: 27,281
Vietnam: 2,712
Japan: 2,504
Korea: 1,471
Other Asia: 1,258
Filipino: 737
China: -1,008

Phoenix:
India: 12,613
China: 11,807
Filipino: 8,494
Other Asia: 4,354
Japan: 1,213
Korea: 850
Vietnam: -575

Portland:
China: 9,220
India: 7,961
Other Asia: 7,183
Vietnam: 4,846
Filipino: 3,316
Korea: 1,952
Japan: -1,310

Charlotte:
India: 17,647
Other Asia: 8,855
China: 6,179
Japan: 894
Korea: 234
Filipino: 96
Vietnam: -1,403

Las Vegas:
Filipino: 17,825
China: 6,725
Vietnam: 3,185
Other Asia: 2,196
Japan: 1,924
India: 1,475
Korea: -1,106

Denver:
India: 12,216
China: 7,088
Filipino: 4,267
Other Asia: 2,656
Japan: -1,140
Vietnam: -1,232
Korea: -2,683
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Old Posted Dec 4, 2019, 10:35 PM
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Anything for Asian and African growth for Columbus..or a link to where I can find the info? I know we have gotten Nepalese/Bhutanese and some more Somalians I believe.
Interesting how Columbus has had higher numerical growth in blacks than in whites. about a 10,000 difference. I wonder if they are coming from NE Ohio or from out of state?
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I'd say downtown LA and Manhattan, to a lesser extent, are both pretty reflective of their overall metro demographics. Downtown LA is very Mexican and Asian. Downtown Chicago, probably no.

Manhattan is stereotyped as white and wealthy, but the overall racial and economic demographics are reflective of the metro, and there are large tracts of subsidized housing in even the wealthiest neighborhoods. There are housing projects on the Upper East Side.
Downtown LA residential population was 52% white in 2013. I'm sure it's passed 60% or 65% in the past 6 years.
There's only certain sections that feel Mexican and streets like Broadway are changing dramatically.

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Old Posted Dec 5, 2019, 2:07 AM
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Downtown LA residential population was 52% white in 2013. I'm sure it's passed 60% or 65% in the past 6 years.
I'm not talking about residential population, obviously. Residential population has little to do with a downtown core's overall usage.

LA's downtown has tons of Asians and Latinos, as they work and/or shop there.
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Old Posted Dec 5, 2019, 2:32 AM
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Im sure the office workers lean more white than Hispanic too so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
Shopping I give you, but that's it.
I go there all the time and see a solid mix more than anything.
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Old Posted Dec 6, 2019, 7:29 PM
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Chinese:
Los Angeles: 90,874
San Francisco: 69,104
San Jose: 46,705
New York: 44,419
Seattle: 41,130
Boston: 35,733
Houston: 27,456
Riverside: 15,959
Phoenix: 11,807
Atlanta: 11,436
Philadelphia: 11,419
Washington DC: 10,930
San Diego: 9,919
Portland: 9,220
Sacramento: 9,025
Chicago: 8,516
Dallas/Fort Worth: 7,824
Denver: 7,008
Las Vegas: 6,725
Charlotte: 6,179
Minneapolis/St.Paul : 5,726
Detroit: 4,308
Austin: -1,008

India:
Dallas/Fort Worth: 80,799
San Francisco: 67,900
New York: 65,705
Chicago: 52,504
Washington DC: 52,439
Seattle: 40,968
Los Angeles: 40,680
Houston: 39,135
Atlanta: 39,008
San Jose: 35,998
Boston: 33,724
Philadelphia: 31,213
Austin: 27,281
Detroit: 24,183
Sacramento: 19,630
Charlotte: 17,647
San Diego: 15,273
Phoenix: 12,613
Denver: 12,216
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 10,859
Portland: 7,961
Las Vegas: 1,475
Riverside: 632

Korea:
Dallas/Fort Worth: 11,556
New York: 9,695
San Jose: 5,747
Washington DC: 3,046
Houston: 2,510
San Diego: 2,498
Portland: 1,952
Detroit: 1,947
San Francisco: 1,553
Austin: 1,471
Atlanta: 1,384
Phoenix: 850
Riverside: 795
Sacramento: 550
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 275
Charlotte: 234
Seattle: -308
Las Vegas: -1,106
Boston: -1,897
Denver: -2,683
Philadelphia: -7,038
Chicago: -9,094
Los Angeles: -15,834

Vietnam:
Houston: 24,884
Los Angeles: 13,688
Dallas/Fort Worth: 13,610
San Francisco: 11,807
Seattle: 9,709
Chicago: 9,667
Atlanta: 7,740
Boston: 6,027
San Diego: 5,854
Sacramento: 4,926
Portland: 4,846
Las Vegas: 3,185
Austin: 2,712
Washington DC: 1,724
San Jose: 1,722
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 786
Phoenix: -575
Denver: -1,232
Charlotte: -1,403
New York: -1,470
Detroit: -2,576
Philadelphia: -2,938
Riverside: -3,158

Philippines:
Riverside: 25,804
Los Angeles: 21,204
Las Vegas: 17,825
Sacramento: 9,488
Phoenix: 8,494
Seattle: 8,282
New York: 7,978
San Diego: 7,622
Denver: 4,267
Atlanta: 3,938
Washington DC: 3,803
Portland: 3,136
Houston: 2,875
Dallas/Fort Worth: 2,428
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 2,100
Boston: 1,311
Austin: 737
Detroit: 576
Charlotte: 96
San Francisco: 73
San Jose: -1,011
Chicago: -1,930
Philadelphia: -4,279

Other Asia:
Dallas/Fort Worth: 28,351
New York: 21,165
Houston: 17,781
San Francisco: 17,700
Philadelphia: 16,218
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 14,016
Seattle: 13,908
Atlanta: 12,962
Chicago: 12,704
Charlotte: 8,855
San Jose: 8,138
Detroit: 7,369
Portland: 7,183
Los Angeles: 5,228
Phoenix: 4,354
Denver: 2,656
Las Vegas: 2,196
Austin: 1,258
Riverside: 1,055
Boston: 289
Sacramento: -1,037
San Diego: -1,205
Washington DC: -12,333
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No real surprises, but interesting.
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Interesting that Chinese growth is adhering to traditionally populous Chinese areas, whereas Vietnamese, Korean, and Other are shifting towards areas where you would not expect to find many Asians, like DFW and Houston (although Houston has always had a significant Vietnamese population, the trend is continuing, and now outpacing LA and SF) .
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interesting to note that korean immigration to atlanta has slowed, but has increased from other countries. (china, vietnam especially) also interesting that we're surpassing some more established areas like chicago/boston/dc.
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Atlanta has had a sizeable Korean community for a while. It was there where I first got exposed to Korean culture via taekwondo for a short time.



I’m surprised that the data for the different Asian demographics don’t include any Florida metro. I know Miami virtually no Asian community, but doesn’t Orlando and possibly the Tampa Bay Area have a good sized Filipino population? I know a bunch of friends from those areas. Florida may not be as rich or prosperous as NY or CA, but the weather there is almost the same as the humid weather of Southeast Asia. Thus, a lot of Thai, Filipino, Vietnamese, and Indonesians would feel just as home there as the large Caribbean population does right now.
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Throw Honolulu in there for some fun perspective. Definitely meets the 100k+ minimum.
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Asian Growth between 2013 and 2018. Im only running numbers for MSAs with Asian populations over 100k:

San Francisco: 163,198
Los Angeles: 158,433
New York City: 144,983
Dallas/Fort Worth: 144,870
Seattle: 115,216
Houston: 109,341
San Jose: 99,194
Atlanta: 74,041
Boston: 71,317
Chicago: 70,738
Washington DC: 61,251
Philadelphia: 46,237
Sacramento: 43,468
Minneapolis/St Paul: 38,852
Riverside: 38,804
Detroit: 36,048
Austin: 35,526
Phoenix: 32,629
Portland: 32,239
Charlotte: 32,222
Las Vegas: 29,371
Denver: 26,161
Baltimore: 19,659
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 19,238
Tampa: 16,628
Orlando: 16,153
San Francisco-San Jose: 262,392

A huge demographic shift in the inner Bay Area has likely occurred this year...

2018 SF-Oakland & SJ Urban Areas:
Total Pop: 5,370,517 Total Area: 809 sq miles.
33.6% White 1,809,153
32.2% Asian 1,732,444
22.9% Hispanic 1,230,676
5.7% Black 310,721
4.1% Two or More Races 223,825
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I would not read too much into the year-over-year estimates.

These are very rough estimates, usually heavily revised during the decennial Census count, and the Census says not to take year-over-year results as a trend, but rather a rough overall point-in-time snapshot.
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I would not read too much into the year-over-year estimates.

These are very rough estimates, usually heavily revised during the decennial Census count, and the Census says not to take year-over-year results as a trend, but rather a rough overall point-in-time snapshot.
True, but we are still on the verge of a shift nonetheless.

5-year Estimates 2012-2017
Combined San Francisco-Oakland & San Jose Urban Areaa
White 1,838,162---1,833,750 +4,412 +0.2%
Asian 1,632,813---1,428,250 +204,163 +14.29%
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Atlanta has had a sizeable Korean community for a while. It was there where I first got exposed to Korean culture via taekwondo for a short time.

I’m surprised that the data for the different Asian demographics don’t include any Florida metro. I know Miami virtually no Asian community, but doesn’t Orlando and possibly the Tampa Bay Area have a good sized Filipino population? I know a bunch of friends from those areas. Florida may not be as rich or prosperous as NY or CA, but the weather there is almost the same as the humid weather of Southeast Asia. Thus, a lot of Thai, Filipino, Vietnamese, and Indonesians would feel just as home there as the large Caribbean population does right now.
Miami's Asian communities seem to be spread out with no center.
Orlando does seem to have a visible Vietnamese population with many restaurants & shops in the ViMi (Virginia-Mills) district northeast of downtown.


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