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Old Posted Jan 17, 2014, 10:12 PM
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Reynolds Buick
Reynolds Buick, a 99-year old dealer in West Covina--circa 1964 and, below, in 2011.




RIT, you won't like this, but this is clearly a '55 Buick, not a '56. (I've owned two.) Your two shots are, in fact, '55s, and the green Century can be identified by the taillights in both pics--'56 Buick taillights were different.

A further clue to the green Buick not being a Roadmaster is that that model had no quarter-panel model emblem in either '55 or '56.



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1962 - West side of South Bunker Hill Avenue from the middle of the block starting with 321 South Bunker Hill Avenue at the left. Sunlit red brick home is
309-311 South Bunker Hill Avenue. At the far end of the street, a building crane and steel girders are visible. This is the Lady McDonald house in the shadow
left of center. Looking north toward 3rd Street.


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While we're talking '50s automobiles, I liked the Plymouth in this picture. Knowing that I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong , I'm going to say it's a 1957 Plymouth Belvedere convertible.


Detail from picture above.
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Sherman Oaks Circle

An interesting roundabout at the base of the foothills of the San Fernando Valley has always intrigued me. Tucked just west of the 405 freeway and south of Ventura Blvd sits Sherman Oaks Circle, designed no doubt by land developer and streetcar magnate Moses Sherman as perhaps the gateway to the Valley township that bears his name, Sherman Oaks.

1952 map, Sherman Oaks Circle at center prior to the freeway:

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If I was to guess, Sherman who started developing and subdividing Sherman Oaks in the mid to late 20’s probably intended to build a railway from West Los Angeles (and his other namesake city Sherman - today West Hollywood) and travel north through the Sepulveda pass to this roundabout destination in his new SFV suburb development. Pure speculation on my part, but it became clear that SO Circle was indeed intended to be the epicenter of the township (and clearly the San Fernando Valley) when I came across this proposed 1929 development for a City Hall for the San Fernando Valley designed by architect Harold Cross smack dab in the center of the roundabout:


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Proposal view looking south:


Of course this never happened, the City Hall was built in Van Nuys instead in 1932 and the Circle was developed with housing. Years later the 405 slashed its way just east of the circle and west of Sepulveda Blvd leaving this small curiosity of the Valley literally an island unto itself and another failed L.A. development dream.

Current map, with the 405 snuggling up to SOC:

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Sherman Oaks Circle today:

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1962 - Flower Street apartment buildings. Two nearly architecturally identical Victorian style apartment buildings with the exception of
a corner turret on the right one. Two-lamp ornamental electrolier streetlight at far left. Actually this is the southwest corner of Flower
Street and 1st Street. Specifically, this is 101-111 South Flower Street, built in 1904.


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For the car guys:


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Old Posted Jan 17, 2014, 11:28 PM
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1961 - Apartment buildings on Olive Street. Demolition debris at left: wood, water heater, panels. Middle car is a 1955 Buick Century.
Los Angeles City Hall's tower can be seen in the distant background. (Looks like address is 238).


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1961 - West 1st Street from Flower Street to Hope Street. Looking east on 1st Street from left to right: the Lima Apartments (formerly the Majestic
and Rossmere); the 1902 Warner Apartments at 710; the 1911 Maxine with the tall columns at 724; and at the far right 748 West 1st Street.


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1957 - Right to left, looking north up South Grand Avenue: the 1940 Avalon Apartments at 144, the circa 1890 Richelieu Hotel at 142, the 1881
or 1887 Melrose Hotel at 130 and the 1890-91 Melrose Annex at 120. Note the construction of the Superior Court across First Street.





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1957 - Right to left, looking north on South Grand Avenue: the 1940 Avalon Apartments at 144, the Richelieu Hotel at 142 has been
demolished, the 1881 or 1887 Melrose Hotel at 130 South Grand Avenue and the 1890-91 Melrose Annex at 120.


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1961 - Clay Street view of Olive Street remnants between 2nd and 3rd. Probably the backside of 226 South Olive Street.


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1961 - West view from Clay Street between 2nd and 3rd Streets. The back of 236 South Olive Street.


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RIT, you won't like this, but this is clearly a '55 Buick, not a '56. (I've owned two.) Your two shots are, in fact, '55s, and the green Century can be identified by the taillights in both pics--'56 Buick taillights were different.

A further clue to the green Buick not being a Roadmaster is that that model had no quarter-panel model emblem in either '55 or '56.]
Hmmm.........First time I've been considered wrong for agreeing with someone. And by the way all '55-'56 Buicks, aside from Roadmaster, had model identities on their rear quarter panels, or doors if a 4 door model, even the lowly Special. Feel free to consult pages 11-21 through pages 11-28 of the Catalog of American Cars 1950-59.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2014, 7:28 AM
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OK, guys. How about this one. They say it is a 1955 Buick Century.


http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/6292/rec/48


Here's the first one:


http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/7641/rec/7
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2014, 12:43 PM
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1957 - Right to left, looking north up South Grand Avenue: the 1940 Avalon Apartments at 144, the circa 1890 Richelieu Hotel at 142, the 1881
or 1887 Melrose Hotel at 130 and the 1890-91 Melrose Annex at 120. Note the construction of the Superior Court across First Street.




Seeing the Avalon reminded me of the famous Bunker Hill video we've seen here before but is worth mentioning again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-I2kLNwBak


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Hmmm.........First time I've been considered wrong for agreeing with someone. And by the way all '55-'56 Buicks, aside from Roadmaster, had model identities on their rear quarter panels, or doors if a 4 door model, even the lowly Special. Feel free to consult pages 11-21 through pages 11-28 of the Catalog of American Cars 1950-59.

Not going to get into a pissing match with you on a subject irrelevant to the thread, but as you know, my response was to your original, unedited post in which you disagreed with me about the identification of the '55 Buick ("GW, you're not going to like this" etc). If you want top car-expert honors, they're yours. Let's move on.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2014, 2:33 PM
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I saw this picture, which I don't think we've seen on the thread before, in an interesting 2011 KCET SoCal Focus piece (here).


It looks like the Bill Bounds's smog cellar might still be there, if now under a hexagonal roof...


28868 Crestridge Rd, Rancho Palos Verdes




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OK, guys. How about this one. They say it is a 1955 Buick Century.


http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/6292/rec/48


Here's the first one:


http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/7641/rec/7
To clear the air on this question, both images are of 1955 Buicks. The top photo is of a Roadmaster not a Century. The lower image may well be a Century, it is not a Special since it has 4 port holes, we know it is not a Super because the script on the side is too long. The tip off to the different 1955 models when the script on the door or rear quarter panel is not clearly legible is the roof turret and overall body size. The '55 Roadmasters shared the basic body shell and roof turret used with Cadillac Series 62 cars in '55-'56, including the '56 Eldorado and Eldorado Seville one of which I presently own, and Oldsmobile 98s. The '55 Buick Century, Super and Special shared a basic body shell with Oldsmobile 88's and Pontiac Star Chiefs. Lesser Pontiacs shared a basic body shell with Chevrolet.

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But since you persist... I have to tell you, FredH's top photo is emphatically not a Roadmaster. It is a Century--the red underscore of the model id on the bodyside is almost visible (this red highlight is not on Special or Super side ids, and of course, not on RMs because they carried no such side id). RMs carried its model id in script across the trunk and also carries two chrome handles low on the lid instead of the larger single chrome emblem assembly on the other three series, visible in both of FredH's photos. In addition, the RM has two large chrome shields on its lower rear fenders behind the wheel openings.

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Hi everyone,
I was taking pictures in downtown LA Wednesday and got this one of the Charnock Bl. shell from inside the Rosslyn - shocking! Looks like the building next door to the south is also a shell-only.

LAPL has some 2013 photos by James Sanderson of the inside of the Charnock before it was gutted; here are three.

Inside the top floor turret on the corner:

LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/00111/00111581.jpg

Top floor room:

LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/00111/00111582.jpg

Fireplace closeup:

LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/00111/00111584.jpg

More info from LAPL: The Roma Hotel located at 508 South Main Street was constructed in 1904 by Fred L. and Frank M. Lee. The ground floor appears to have been used originally as retail and office space with lodging on the upper floors. The Charnock Block/Pershing Hotel is located at 500 South Main Street at the corner of South Main and East 5th Streets. The Charnock Block was constructed in two phases, first in 1889 with a long rectangular plan built on the lot that faces 5th Street and then in 1907 with an addition on the next lot to the south. In 1923, the Charnock Block became known as the Pershing Hotel and is a rare example of Late Victorian era commercial architecture and Second Empire style. In 1989, both the Roma and Charnock Block/Pershing Hotel underwent major renovation, replacing storefronts, remodeling the ground floors and reconfiguring the third floor to create common area space, joining the two buildings together. Both buildings have been identified as contributing buildings to the 5th - Main Street Commercial Historic District which was determined eligible for listing in the National Register of Historic Places in 2007.

Other Charnock posts:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=16857

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=15197

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=14512
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