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Old Posted Jul 18, 2008, 7:38 PM
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Hey i know this has nothing to do with the conversation but on emporis the Vidorra is listed as 25 floors at 292ft. I know it prolly just haven't been updated but if the floor count's at 20, then wouldn't the height be somewhere around 235 to 240ft?
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2008, 8:48 PM
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This would beg the question though Kornbread, what if the developers were holding back on telling us their numbers in order to get a jump on the market with their second project. What you are doing right now is purely speculating. We have heard no solid numbers from ANY of the projects going on right now in downtown. Please do not assume that just bc Vidorra II has not begun construction, that sales figures are low for this project. Just because tower two hasn't started yet, doesn't mean it won't ever. There are alot of logistical things to get through before beginning construction on a structure. For all we know they could be still in the planning stages of tower two at this point. Alot of times developers won't begin a second project (ie Koontz McCombs) until their first project is done.
I'm not sure I understand your point. It sounds like you're speculating that sales could be going so well that Presidian doesn't want to make any announcements because of fear that others wanting to jump into the condo market will do so, taking away prospective customers. To me you get a jump on the market with inventory.

I think Presidian did their homework and that there were good reasons for deciding to start with one tower at 20 stories. Phase 2 could be in the re-planning stages. It could be planning it's way into townhomes (they seemed popular) or to the shelve. That's why projects are split into phases. Because someone isn't convinced that the need is there.

I just think with the typical building cycles that San Antonio seems to go through it won't happen soon and I see more promise in other areas for future talls.
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2008, 9:37 PM
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Everyone make sure you watch KSAT tonight. They're going to do a piece on a psychic who claims he can see SA's future...
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2008, 11:11 PM
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Is this, then, as I assumed...? Was Pearl a sort of safe introduction into the urban living scene?

New construction, new infrastructure, new shops and restaurants (obviously re-use of old but the feeling is new)....almost all of the amenities of a new suburb except you happen to live on the third floor above a Starbucks and an attorney???
More or less.

The incentive was that it was close to existing businesses without being right there. People didn't have to dive right into the presently unfamiliar manhattan style of living in a dense urban area with offices and businesses clustered about.

It's a hybrid concept, I'd say-- half "new downtown" and half suburban living. They rehabbed what was all industrial and connected it with permanent transit. The neighborhood even has its own park system and something like its own police precinct.

It trickled over into downtown very successfully.
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This picture was actually taken in March so it isn't really an update, but I had to link it anyway...click and you'll see why

http://flickr.com/photos/mommymoni/2681616359/
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2008, 5:15 AM
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I Was downtown today and took a few pics.
Vistana






Embassy



EmbassyFrom Riverwalk



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MAIN PLAZA




Commerce

Market St.



Found this on SAHELICOPTER. thought it was cool.


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nice pics (a nice update)...

(the "embassy" above is the courtyard by marriott)
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2008, 3:35 PM
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nice pics (a nice update)...

(the "embassy" above is the courtyard by marriott)


oh i new I was off, hah. My friends I-phone takes kinda shitty pics.
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Thanks for the pictures, Paul. The Nano and I were right there at Main Plaza, and I was pretty much standing where you were too, eating like a pig at McDonald's. lol

I'll post my pictures soon, (I promise).

Unfortunately, I didn't make it over to The Vistana. I really wish I could have. I was more pressed for time the 2nd day than I thought. I still managed to take a boat load of pictures, though. I had a lot of fun.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2008, 9:07 AM
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Thanks for the pictures, Paul. The Nano and I were right there at Main Plaza, and I was pretty much standing where you were too, eating like a pig at McDonald's. lol

I'll post my pictures soon, (I promise).

Unfortunately, I didn't make it over to The Vistana. I really wish I could have. I was more pressed for time the 2nd day than I thought. I still managed to take a boat load of pictures, though. I had a lot of fun.
Thanks Kev, I have a lot more pics, I'll try and get mine posted as well.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2008, 4:39 PM
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My grandma lives really close to that building so I always walked by-- so terrible looking
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Awesomeness

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Old Posted Jul 22, 2008, 9:06 PM
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Love the new lofts! I'm excited to see what takes place at River North.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2008, 10:25 PM
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Aren't we all?
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2008, 11:11 PM
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^^^True. "Excited" is a bit of an understatement
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2008, 11:16 PM
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2008, 10:45 PM
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Was in SA this past weekend. The new Hyatt makes a great addition to the skyline... but what do you guys think about the street level appeal? It didn't feel that "friendly" driving by. Is is better as a pedestrian?
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