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Originally Posted by Pedestrian
This is the wonderful European style public housing:
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It would be foolish to say that council housing in Europe is some sort of utopia, many mistakes were made, and in the UK many of these post-WWII estates are now being redeveloped to rectify issues that were created. The problem with Grenfell had nothing to do with the tenant status however, because the same cladding was applied to private residential blocks. The episode was a colossal cock-up from manufacturing through to certification and installation.
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Originally Posted by jtown,man
I love how Muppets graph lumped all of the Americas into ONE category.
I wonder if that makes NYC look a little less diverse?! Of course, it does, and it was done on purpose. Lying by statistics.
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My original research was based on the country grouping by the Office for National Statistics, a project which then amalgamated data from the USCB and StatsCan. All of Asia – a far larger and diverse grouping of territories than the America’s – comes under one group. There isn’t a conspiracy to devalue New York because it is still behind London in terms of total, country count and several threshold counts.
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Originally Posted by mrnyc
no doubt for london they divide up the british isles or whatever they want to call it that will juice their stats to look best to beat ny, into a dozen or so different cultures, whereas usa would count it as one culture, england.
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People born elsewhere across the British Isles (Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Channel Islands, etc…) but excluding the Republic of Ireland
don’t count as foreign born.
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Originally Posted by lio45
I can see his point though. An Irish living in London (the culturally closest world city) counts as foreign born. Same with a Continental from just over the channel.
If people born in New Jersey or Connecticut counted as foreign born, NYC's stats would be through the roof... (as it is, a good chunk of NYC's Caribbean community - Puerto Ricans - aren't even counted!)
A much better metric would be % who didn't have English as their native language. No idea how these cities would rank then, but it would more closely match reality.
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Cultural differences aren’t based on geographic distance; try telling people from the Republic of Ireland or France that they are synonymous with New Jersey or Connecticut relative to London and New York! Puerto Rico is an interesting situation but isn’t a foreign country.
Linguistic comparisons are notoriously hard due to where lines are drawn unlike say country of birth. Nigeria has 500 native languages for example. Based on London’s broader range of foreign-born communities from countries which have greater linguistic diversity, I’d suspect London is ahead of New York.