Winnipeg CMA in Five Years (2021)

[balletomane]

All neighbourhood changes
Neighbourhoods entirely within area defined by the Downtown zoning bylaw in italics.

1. Logan-CPR.....310.....516.....+66.5%
2. Exchange District.....440.....608.....+38.2%
3. Civic Centre.....185.....228.....+23.2%
4. Centennial.....2335.....2865.....+22.2%
5. North St. Boniface.....1840.....2076.....+12.8%
6. South Portage.....2050.....2265.....+10.5%
7. Lord Selkirk Park.....1500.....1634.....+8.9%
8. Broadway-Assiniboine.....4975.....5324.....+7.0%
9. Robertson.....4620.....4934.....+6.8%
Downtown Neighborhoods.....14170.....15085.....+6.5%
10. Roslyn.....4210.....4450.....+5.7%
11. Inkster-Faraday.....4250.....4476.....+5.3%
12. Portage-Ellice.....1115.....1172.....+5.1%
13. St. Matthews.....5730.....5968.....+4.2%
14. St. John's Park.....555.....578.....+4.1%
15. Spence.....4430.....4608.....+4.0%
16. Burrows Central.....5340.....5547.....+3.9%
17. Wolseley.....7725.....7989.....+3.4%
18. Daniel McIntyre.....10040.....10309.....+2.7%
WINNIPEG INNER CITY.....127435.....130839.....+2.7%
19. West Broadway.....5330.....5446.....+2.2%
20. River-Osborne.....4780.....4871.....+1.9%
21. St. John's.....8370.....8512.....+1.7%
22. West Alexander.....4125.....4170.....+1.1%
23. Central Park.....4050.....4096.....+1.1%
24. Central St. Boniface.....6960.....7024.....+0.9%
25. William Whyte.....6295.....6295.....+0.0%
26. The Forks.....0.....0.....+0.0%
27. Portage and Main.....0.....0.....+0.0%
28. McMillan.....3525.....3514.....-0.3%
29. Chalmers.....9740.....9677.....-0.6%
30. Luxton.....2660.....2587.....-2.7%
31. Colony.....735.....714.....-2.9%
32. Glenelm.....2250.....2167.....-3.7%
33. North Point Douglas.....2650.....2548.....-3.8%
34. Dufferin.....2215.....2097.....-5.3%
35. China Town.....620.....573.....-7.6%
36. Armstrong Point.....385.....326.....-15.3%
37. South Point Douglas.....700.....503.....-28.1%
38. Dufferin Industrial.....215.....67.....-68.8%
39. Legislature.....0.....105.....N/A

[TimeFadesAway]

Originally Posted by esquire

It's hard to read too much into population stats without a little more context. For instance, in West Broadway you might have situations where a big old home was used as a rooming house for 10 people, but was bought, renovated and is now occupied by a couple. It's a drop in population, but not indicative of a neighbourhood in decline.

I'm sure this is the case for Point Douglas and Armstrong Point.

South Point Douglas is so sparsely populated that one rooming house converting to single family could cause the 28% drop!

[Gm0ney]

Originally Posted by TimeFadesAway

I'm sure this is the case for Point Douglas and Armstrong Point.

South Point Douglas is so sparsely populated that one rooming house converting to single family could cause the 28% drop!

37. South Point Douglas.....700.....503.....-28.1%

That was one helluva rooming house!

[TimeFadesAway]

Originally Posted by Gm0ney

37. South Point Douglas.....700.....503.....-28.1%

That was one helluva rooming house!

Maybe it was like the Volkswagen Beetle full of clowns that they used to have at the Shrine Circus.

[bomberjet]

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[balletomane]

Originally Posted by esquire

It's hard to read too much into population stats without a little more context. For instance, in West Broadway you might have situations where a big old home was used as a rooming house for 10 people, but was bought, renovated and is now occupied by a couple. It's a drop in population, but not indicative of a neighbourhood in decline.

This is probably true for some of the neighbourhoods that posted population losses from 2011 to 2016. I'd say if those same neighbourhoods post losses from 2016 to 2021 it might be cause for a little concern.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by balletomane

Neighborhood population figures for 2016 are shown in the 2017 Winnipeg Wards Boundary Commission report for new city council boundaries.
https://www.winnipeg.ca/clerks/Wards.../AppendixE.pdf

Inner City population figures for 2011 census from the city website
https://winnipeg.ca/Census/2011/City...ner%20City.pdf

Strange that the 2016 neighborhood population figures are not available.

[GlassCity]

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

Strange that the 2016 neighborhood population figures are not available.

They take a long time to do. Because Statistics Canada has their own statistical boundaries they use, you can't just combine/divide them to match the City's neighbourhood boundaries. And because the raw per-household data isn't out there, you can't do it yourself.

So how it works is the City asks Stat Can to look at the responses again, but orient them as per the City's neighbourhood boundaries. Obviously a relatively frivolous request like this will take a while to get through there. However, I was told a couple months ago that the 2016 stats would be out "in the next couple months" and yet here we are!

[dennis]

To bad there is no computer program that could do that.

[The Bess]

Does this help at all

https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-r...GC=602&TOPIC=1

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by The Bess

Does this help at all

https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-r...GC=602&TOPIC=1

They still have not released the population of different areas of Winnipeg?

[Biff]

So it looks like Stats Can has put the Winnipeg CMA at 832,186 for 2018 (+30,949 from 2016-2018). I would have to think we will be 860+ in 2020. Again, pretty good growth.

Originally Posted by q12

Population estimates, July 1, by census metropolitan area and census agglomeration, 2016 boundaries



https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1...pid=1710013501

[Curmudgeon]

^ Starting to pull away from Quebec City and now solidly in 7th.

Surprising too that for 2014-18 Winnipeg (7.14%) outgrew Vancouver (5.67%) and was virtually tied with Calgary (7.16%) in population growth. Wow, Thunder Bay has had close to the same population for around 50 years, it was still bigger than Saskatoon as late as the 1961 census.

At this rate the population should hit the million mark by 2029 or 2030. I wonder if the Perimeter will still have traffic lights? Better add one at Gunn Rd., it's very smart to force trucks to come to a stop from 100-110 km/h. I wonder how far along Winnipeg will be in terms of implementing driverless technology?

[esquire]

^ I find our sustained growth somewhat amazing considering that our economy is not particularly hot. Cost of living is relatively low but at the same time, wages and salaries are below average too.

[Winnipegger]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ I find our sustained growth somewhat amazing considering that our economy is not particularly hot. Cost of living is relatively low but at the same time, wages and salaries are below average too.

The City itself (not the CMA) has had very impressive growth this decade, primarily driven by international immigration. I expect that between 2010 and 2019, Winnipeg will have grown by almost 100,000 people. From 2000 to 2010, Winnipeg only grew by around 32,000 people, and in the dark 1990's, only grew by 13,000 people. We grow by more people in one year now than the entire 1990's.

In terms of sheer numbers (as opposed to growth percentage), Winnipeg's probably experiencing the second fastest growth this decade in it's entire history. Looking back to 1871, the only other time when Winnipeg grew by 100,000 people over 10 years was likely between 1950 and 1959.

I think this growth is going to have a significant effect on the City over the next 20 years, especially if it keeps up at the same rate.

[esquire]

For a while it felt like Winnipeg was in that 650,000ish population range for the long haul, which is probably why there wasn't a ton of urgency behind things like improved transit infrastructure, prioritizing increased density levels and other such things. Growth was something that happened in Vancouver, Calgary and Toronto.

But now that we're creeping up on a million I think there will be more emphasis placed on that sort of thing. Not to say we'll suddenly turn into Portland, but you might start seeing the Browaty/Steeves type mindset move more and more to the fringes.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ I find our sustained growth somewhat amazing considering that our economy is not particularly hot. Cost of living is relatively low but at the same time, wages and salaries are below average too.

Cost of living here is really not all that low. Real estate relative to some other Canadian cities is cheaper, but rents are quite high here, certainly a suburban 2 bedroom will not cost you that much less than in the Lower Mainland., Utilities are cheaper per unit than in other cities, as is gasoline, but the climate results in a higher expenditure overall, this is why the carbon tax puts Manitoba (and Saskatchewan) at a real competitive disadvantage. I notice as well, not sure if others do, but groceries, esp. produce, seem more expensive here, and "sin taxes" are definitely higher as well. And yes, incomes are the lowest of anywhere west of Quebec.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Winnipegger

...In terms of sheer numbers (as opposed to growth percentage), Winnipeg's probably experiencing the second fastest growth this decade in it's entire history. Looking back to 1871, the only other time when Winnipeg grew by 100,000 people over 10 years was likely between 1950 and 1959......

It exceeded 100,000 growth between 1901 and 1911.

1901 - 46,047 (Winnipeg 42,540, St. Bon. 2,019, St. James 257, Kildonan 1,231)
1911 - 152,108 (Winnipeg 136,035, St. Bon. 7,483, St. James 5,335, Kildonan 3,255)

Difference of 106,061 for Winnipeg and the three suburbs of St. Boniface, St. James and Kildonan (today's East, North, West and Old); would be somewhat more if I included the totals for all of the other municipalities.

[Winnipegger]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

It exceeded 100,000 growth between 1901 and 1911.

1901 - 46,047 (Winnipeg 42,540, St. Bon. 2,019, St. James 257, Kildonan 1,231)
1911 - 152,108 (Winnipeg 136,035, St. Bon. 7,483, St. James 5,335, Kildonan 3,255)

Difference of 106,061 for Winnipeg and the three suburbs of St. Boniface, St. James and Kildonan (today's East, North, West and Old); would be somewhat more if I included the totals for all of the other municipalities.

Sorry, I was defining the decade as population in 1909 subtract what the population was in 1899, which was different from you. But yes, by your metric population would have increased by over 100,000 during that time as well.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

^ Starting to pull away from Quebec City and now solidly in 7th.

Surprising too that for 2014-18 Winnipeg (7.14%) outgrew Vancouver (5.67%) and was virtually tied with Calgary (7.16%) in population growth. Wow, Thunder Bay has had close to the same population for around 50 years, it was still bigger than Saskatoon as late as the 1961 census.

At this rate the population should hit the million mark by 2029 or 2030. I wonder if the Perimeter will still have traffic lights? Better add one at Gunn Rd., it's very smart to force trucks to come to a stop from 100-110 km/h. I wonder how far along Winnipeg will be in terms of implementing driverless technology?

We've even got a new dip shit city councillor who wants to drop speed limits from 80 to 50 on certain roadways, nice tan and hair though!