HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Ontario > Ottawa-Gatineau > Transportation


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #1881  
Old Posted Jul 14, 2023, 1:29 PM
J.OT13's Avatar
J.OT13 J.OT13 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 23,991
Transit in this area has been complete garbage since they removed the streetcars in the 50s. Not a peep from any politician. Remove access to cars from QED (which is never that busy anyway) for a few months, and the Mayor stands up and calls for immediate restoration of car access!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1882  
Old Posted Jul 14, 2023, 3:45 PM
YOWetal YOWetal is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,607
Quote:
Originally Posted by roger1818 View Post
This!!! But of course he wants to generate fictitious evidence that there is a war against cars that he wants to combat to increase support from his ignorant populous base.
Smart politics really. Protect his right flank without having to actually spend any money on what is federal jurisdiction. Meanwhile he's pretty far to the left on most of his decisions so far. Watson had a pretty similar style. Stagnation without anything bold in either direction.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1883  
Old Posted Jul 14, 2023, 4:48 PM
skyscraperaccount skyscraperaccount is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 135
Quote:
Originally Posted by YOWetal View Post
Smart politics really. Protect his right flank without having to actually spend any money on what is federal jurisdiction. Meanwhile he's pretty far to the left on most of his decisions so far. Watson had a pretty similar style. Stagnation without anything bold in either direction.
Its Watson's handlers pulling Sutcliffe's strings so expecting different isn't sensible.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1884  
Old Posted Jul 14, 2023, 7:43 PM
Nepean Nepean is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 141
Quote:
Originally Posted by YOWetal View Post
Smart politics really. Protect his right flank without having to actually spend any money on what is federal jurisdiction. Meanwhile he's pretty far to the left on most of his decisions so far. Watson had a pretty similar style. Stagnation without anything bold in either direction.
You're right. Sutcliffe won the election with his "stop the war on the car" nonsense and he is continuing to use this as a wedge issue. Ottawa is a weird city: While it is true that we have a lot of bike paths in certain areas, it is also true that large parts of the city are designed for cars rather than people. In many sections of town (etc. areas of Nepean, Barrhaven, Orleans) you can't get around without a car.

Sutcliffe's comments are frustrating. Thanks to a botched LRT, reduction in the quality of OC Transpo service, and suburbs that are designed for cars rather than cyclists/pedestrians, we are effectively encouraging tens of thousands of people to drive. Rather than look at different solutions to reduce our reliance on automobiles, Sutcliffe has opted instead for a cheap wedge issue that appeals to suburban car owners, which are his base.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1885  
Old Posted Jul 15, 2023, 1:05 AM
bartlebooth bartlebooth is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 439
Quote:
Originally Posted by YOWetal View Post
Smart politics really. Protect his right flank without having to actually spend any money on what is federal jurisdiction. Meanwhile he's pretty far to the left on most of his decisions so far. Watson had a pretty similar style. Stagnation without anything bold in either direction.
It’s cute to see people giving him this much credit. He’s not playing 4d political chess. He’s simply communicating what he believes. He’s mediocre and can’t think beyond the idea that city building is effectively a form of traffic management.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1886  
Old Posted Jul 16, 2023, 4:30 PM
J.OT13's Avatar
J.OT13 J.OT13 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 23,991
Quote:
Originally Posted by bartlebooth View Post
It’s cute to see people giving him this much credit. He’s not playing 4d political chess. He’s simply communicating what he believes. He’s mediocre and can’t think beyond the idea that city building is effectively a form of traffic management.
That's more likely. He's not a politician, he's a opinion columnist. He's running City Hall based on is beliefs and opinions, which is largely based on trying to make everyone "happy" by "compromising" to the point of not actually progressing the City. The rural and suburban Councillors (for the most part) are not big on compromise, so it's the urban Councillors who often have to move.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1887  
Old Posted Jul 16, 2023, 4:49 PM
YOWetal YOWetal is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,607
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.OT13 View Post
That's more likely. He's not a politician, he's a opinion columnist. He's running City Hall based on is beliefs and opinions, which is largely based on trying to make everyone "happy" by "compromising" to the point of not actually progressing the City. The rural and suburban Councillors (for the most part) are not big on compromise, so it's the urban Councillors who often have to move.
Yeah I think you two are right. Compromise is a big buzz word in the circles he frequents. Actually what we need are some radical changes in both directions.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1888  
Old Posted Jul 16, 2023, 11:32 PM
LRTeverywhere LRTeverywhere is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 221
While I don't want to give Sutcliffe credit for a 4D chess move, I gotta say the timing of his comments about the QED closures lines up perfectly with the release of the Transportation study for Lansdowne 2.0 that made it very clear the city requires QED to remain open to support Lansdowne 2.0.

(Too note, I support both Lansdowne 2.0 and a full closure of QED )
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1889  
Old Posted Jul 18, 2023, 6:12 PM
J.OT13's Avatar
J.OT13 J.OT13 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 23,991
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Eade View Post
It seems to me that this conversation has veered a bit away from 'Cycling in Ottawa'.
You're right. Conversation moving here:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...hlight=parkway
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1890  
Old Posted Aug 29, 2023, 3:15 PM
Harley613's Avatar
Harley613 Harley613 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Aylmer, QC
Posts: 6,660
They are installing a reconfigured bike lane at Rideau/Sussex/Colonel by/Mackenzie with signs flaunting '1.6 million dollar investment'.

Isn't there a plan to completely reconfigure this entire area and tear down the existing bridge???

__________________
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.harleydavis/
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1891  
Old Posted Aug 29, 2023, 3:51 PM
J.OT13's Avatar
J.OT13 J.OT13 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 23,991
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harley613 View Post
They are installing a reconfigured bike lane at Rideau/Sussex/Colonel by/Mackenzie with signs flaunting '1.6 million dollar investment'.

Isn't there a plan to completely reconfigure this entire area and tear down the existing bridge???
I thought the NCC had a competition going to reconfigure the intersection. The you have the City who has a reconfiguration scheme in the ByWard Market Public Realm Plan (which probably won't be done until well after Mayor Subpar is gone).

With all of that, we're still waiting on the whole tramway situation. Will it be built? where? loop? if so, what street will be used to loop around? It seems the tramway, Wellington, the intersection, the ByWard Market plan and Alexadra Bridge are all intertwined. The tramway is the first thing that needs to be figured out before everything falls into place.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1892  
Old Posted Aug 29, 2023, 4:07 PM
zzptichka zzptichka is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Outaouias
Posts: 1,727
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harley613 View Post
They are installing a reconfigured bike lane at Rideau/Sussex/Colonel by/Mackenzie with signs flaunting '1.6 million dollar investment'.

Isn't there a plan to completely reconfigure this entire area and tear down the existing bridge???
I suspect the city is pushing back hard on it.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1893  
Old Posted Aug 29, 2023, 6:01 PM
J.OT13's Avatar
J.OT13 J.OT13 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 23,991
This kind of shows once again that the City botched the re-opening of Wellington. If they were going to do that with temporary bike lanes, they should have been bi-directional, on the north side in order to connect with the Rideau bike lanes.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1894  
Old Posted Aug 29, 2023, 6:38 PM
Fading Isle Fading Isle is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2022
Posts: 149
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.OT13 View Post
This kind of shows once again that the City botched the re-opening of Wellington. If they were going to do that with temporary bike lanes, they should have been bi-directional, on the north side in order to connect with the Rideau bike lanes.
It’s absolutely terrifying trying to navigate those intersections by bike, especially going eastbound or northbound. Nothing connects to anything.
Reply With Quote
     
     
End
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Ontario > Ottawa-Gatineau > Transportation
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:56 PM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.