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Old Posted Mar 26, 2020, 7:54 PM
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Around 10% of Americans are diabetic. These are not rare conditions.

However, knowing conditions given death is different from predicting death based on conditions. The statistic of 95% having these conditions tells us the death rate is comparatively low for healthy people since they're the larger group. To say much about what having diabetes means to your odds we'd need to know about how many diabetics recovered compared to non-diabetics. It could be that there are hidden factors or sub-populations that are much more vulnerable.
Obesity, diabetec, poor physical/cardiovascular health, these are all things part of what we'd consider as "at risk" patients.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2020, 7:54 PM
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Construction requires qualifications. And in Calgary, the only way to get into construction is knowing someone already in the industry. I tried for years. It's not gonna be any easier during an oil crash and a global catastrophe than it was during the boom years.
May be some new labourer positions opening up with hopefully sites requiring more cleaning. But can’t say that will happen. Grocery store just a temp thing man, get a paycheque coming in.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2020, 7:55 PM
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...still-unclear/

Fascinating polling of infectious disease specialists. Expecting 246,000 deaths (with a massive range in opinions).

That same rate comes out to about 27,000 Canadians. 850 for Saskatchewan.

Certainly lower than what I anticipate. And I'm not an infectious disease expert.
Only 246 000 deaths globally? I feel like that's impossible. If we can make that happen though, it will be the greatest thing ever collectively achieved by humanity. However, these numbers seem suspect. Canada can't possibly account for over 10% of global deaths.


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May be some new labourer positions opening up with hopefully sites requiring more cleaning. But can’t say that will happen. Grocery store just a temp thing man, get a paycheque coming in.
There's only a couple grocery stores hiring, and I've applied to them.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2020, 7:57 PM
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The polling was specifically about the US.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2020, 7:59 PM
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Construction requires qualifications. And in Calgary, the only way to get into construction is knowing someone already in the industry. I tried for years. It's not gonna be any easier during an oil crash and a global catastrophe than it was during the boom years.
Don’t know about Calgary but here in Vancouver you can easily get work in an entry level position with no previous experience. It would pay more than other jobs like retail and whatnot.

Or maybe a construction is somewhere you might not feel too comfortable, which I could understand.
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The polling was specifically about the US.
Oh I see now that it's from 538. So by extrapolation we'd be looking at between 4 and 10 million dead globally. A huge range, because who knows what will happen in under developed countries.

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Don’t know about Calgary but here in Vancouver you can easily get work in an entry level position with no previous experience. It would pay more than other jobs like retail and whatnot.

Or maybe a construction is somewhere you might not feel too comfortable, which I could understand.
Yes, because Vancouver is going through a nearly unprecedented economic boom right now with 4% unemployment before this disaster started. The economic situation between the two cities is incomparable. I feel like if there were labour positions open, they would be posted, which I would have applied to already. I appreciate the suggestion, but it's not a thing that's remotely likely to happen for me.

I would love to work in construction, the money is great and I don't mind the douchebag mentality that straight construction workers have.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2020, 8:07 PM
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The numbers from the polls on 538 are extremely positive. I doubt the death toll will be that low though.

How this affects poor countries is still up in the air. They tend to be very young, but have low quality sanitation and healthcare. India going into lockdown is great news, though their numbers are very suspect.

I'm watching Nigeria and South Africa closely.
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I made a chart from some of the data available so far:



This is from the respective Wikipedia 2020 pandemic pages, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_c...emic_in_Canada

Another one. I excluded Italy because it's so much higher:



That second title should say cumulative deaths too. It's pretty linear looking for Canada. Note that because it's cumulative it will increase even if the rate of death remains constant.
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Canadians have always valued their personal space and privacy, are generally a compliant lot and are not a touchy-feely people. Crowds are a rarity in most of the country, indeed even in most areas of the largest cities, so adherence to social distancing has been rather easy to achieve and has not encountered much complaint.
Yes, contrast this to when my brother lived in South Carolina. He introduced us to some people who immediately responded by offering a hug. Our response was awkwardly surprised. Not a big deal but it indicated some instinctive cultural diffferences.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2020, 8:17 PM
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9 new cases in Sask.

2 total in ICU. 5 in hospital. Our first 3 official recoveries too.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2020, 8:18 PM
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I would love to work in construction, the money is great and I don't mind the douchebag mentality that straight construction workers have.
Is there an Amazon warehouse in Calgary? They seem to be hiring up here.

For anyone who owns a vehicle, food delivery companies must need more drivers.
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Farms in Western Canada desperately need help getting seasonal workers now that they cannot get seasonal laborers from Latin America this upcoming growing season.
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Yes, contrast this to when my brother lived in South Carolina. He introduced us to some people who immediately responded by offering a hug. Our response was awkwardly surprised. Not a big deal but it indicated some instinctive cultural diffferences.
One reason I suspect this spread so fast in Italy.

Had to fight off kissing at family events as a child.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2020, 8:20 PM
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Manitoba at 36 cases. 1100 tests came back in the past 24 hours it look like

https://www.gov.mb.ca/covid19/index.html
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2020, 8:26 PM
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Oh I see now that it's from 538. So by extrapolation we'd be looking at between 4 and 10 million dead globally. A huge range, because who knows what will happen in under developed countries.



Yes, because Vancouver is going through a nearly unprecedented economic boom right now with 4% unemployment before this disaster started. The economic situation between the two cities is incomparable. I feel like if there were labour positions open, they would be posted, which I would have applied to already. I appreciate the suggestion, but it's not a thing that's remotely likely to happen for me.

I would love to work in construction, the money is great and I don't mind the douchebag mentality that straight construction workers have.
I’ve been on construction sites, and most of these young guys are surprising Liberal, though there would be a few idiots.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2020, 8:29 PM
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I’ve been on construction sites, and most of these young guys are surprising Liberal, though there would be a few idiots.
That was my experience working in construction. But some of the young guys are very conservative and some of the old guys are the most laid back and liberal. Generalizations, as per usual, only go so far. But overall, it is a more regressive environment than most and I was glad to leave.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2020, 8:34 PM
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Why do you make so many assumptions about people and attack them personally?

I have lots saved, too, and remain employed. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't have empathy for the poor.

It almost sounds like you are taking joy in the suffering of the poor.
There is a lot of unseemly schadenfraeuding all over the place with this situation. From cheering for "boomer remover", being gleeful over some people losing their shirts because they didn't save as much money as you, rejoicing in the hits that landlords are taking, cheering on the US getting nailed, etc., it's all way too much. I guess it doesn't take much to reveal true character.

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Think we should just make it a law that everyone wear masks?
Perhaps this may be one way to nip the virus in the bud. Despite the warnings only 1 in 20 people you see outside are wearing them. And they are readily available in most stores.

PS: The main benefit of masks that I see is to block people from emitting spray rather than to block you from breathing it in.
In much the same way that governments took great pains to denormalize smoking all through the 90s and 00s, I expect the governments are going to be working to do the opposite with masks... they will be doing their best to normalize it and to thereby encourage people to adopt the practice.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2020, 8:38 PM
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There is a lot of unseemly schadenfraeuding all over the place with this situation. From cheering for "boomer remover", being gleeful over some people losing their shirts because they didn't save as much money as you, rejoicing in the hits that landlords are taking, cheering on the US getting nailed, etc., it's all way too much. I guess it doesn't take much to reveal true character.



In much the same way that governments took great pains to denormalize smoking all through the 90s and 00s, I expect the governments are going to be working to do the opposite with masks... they will be doing their best to normalize it and to thereby encourage people to adopt the practice.
Very true it was disturbing reading what some posters on here are mentioning with a Mr. Burns like disdain for the poor and those not well off before this even hit people. Some on here are quite smug. There are still good people on here though too but it can be a bit much at times reading how self centred some can be on here and what pleasure they get in seeing those less fortunate and americans suffer.
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I don't mind the douchebag mentality that straight construction workers have.
Made me laugh!
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A new shopping protocol we should all emulate...

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