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Old Posted Mar 26, 2024, 6:31 PM
3rd&Brown 3rd&Brown is offline
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Basically all major crimes in NYC are down this year relative to 2023. On public transit too.

https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/p...-february-2024

Despite the alt-right rhetoric, NYC and the MTA are on-course to have one of the lowest crime years in recorded history. It is amazing how social media and alt news sources have completely scrambled reality, on the economy, immigration, crime, Ukraine and a host of topics. It's like we're back in the Dark Ages.
We might not be in the dark ages but we're certainly at the end of the Enlightenment.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2024, 9:10 PM
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Really impressive broad-based progress on this across the country. The following cities aren’t cherry-picked, they just tend to be the ones where this information is most accessible and up to date:

Boston
2023 YTD: 11
2024 YTD: 2
Change: -82%

Chicago
2023 YTD: 108
2024 YTD: 95
Change: -12%

Dallas
2023 YTD: 69
2024 YTD: 48
Change: -30%

Kansas City, MO
2023 YTD: 36
2024 YTD: 28
Change: -22%

Milwaukee
2023 YTD: 32
2024 YTD: 23
Change: -28%

Minneapolis
2023 YTD: 13
2024 YTD: 11
Change: -15%

New York City
2023 YTD: 90
2024 YTD: 74
Change: -18%

Philadelphia
2023 YTD: 98
2024 YTD: 63
Change: -36%

San Francisco
2023 YTD: 10
2024 YTD: 6
Change: -40%

Washington, DC
2023 YTD: 52
2024 YTD: 35
Change: -33%
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Old Posted Yesterday, 8:53 AM
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After a very calm November & December, this is what we ended up with. Not bad. There might be a couple more added, but it wont change the rates by much.

Sweden
Estimated total (Rate) <Deadly Shootings>
2021: 113 (1.1) <63>
2022: 118 (1.1) <45>
2023: 115 (1.1) <53>

Stockholm Metro
2021: 41 (1.7)
2022: 39 (1.6) <31>
2023: 42 (1,7) <26>

- Within City limits/Municipality
2021: 22 (2.2)
2022: 17 (1.7) <11>
2023: 18 (1.8) <13>

Gothenburg/Göteborg Municipality
2021: 9 (1.5)
2022: 7 (1.2) <4>
2023: 10 (1.7) <3>

Malmo/Malmö Municipality
2021: 5 (1.4)
2022: 11 (3.1) <5>
2023: 4 (1.1) <1>
The official numbers are in, and we ended up with a total of 121 murders.
Which translates to a rate of 1,15.

Previous years:
2022: 1,11
2021: 1,08
2020: 1,20
2019: 1,08

Also the numbers for Stockholm was a bit higher than my estimation. It ended up at 44. A rate of 1,7.


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Also some figures from Norway & Denmark

Norway Total: 38 (Rate: 0,7)
Highest number since 2013.

9 out of these occured in the Capital of Oslo. (Rate: 1,0)

Denmark Total: 38 (Rate 0,6).

What is remarkable for Denmark is that all of the murder-cases were solved one way or another.
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Old Posted Yesterday, 2:04 PM
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Old Posted Yesterday, 2:35 PM
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I just saw someone used the metric "Murders per square mile" rather than the usual per capita population metric. The point was to show that their city has a high number of murders per 100.000 pop, but since the city was so sprawly it didn't really affect the population the same way as it would in an urban environment.

Is there a point to this way of reasoning?
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Old Posted Yesterday, 6:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Smuttynose1 View Post
Really impressive broad-based progress on this across the country. The following cities aren’t cherry-picked, they just tend to be the ones where this information is most accessible and up to date:

Boston
2023 YTD: 11
2024 YTD: 2
Change: -82%

Chicago
2023 YTD: 108
2024 YTD: 95
Change: -12%

Dallas
2023 YTD: 69
2024 YTD: 48
Change: -30%

Kansas City, MO
2023 YTD: 36
2024 YTD: 28
Change: -22%

Milwaukee
2023 YTD: 32
2024 YTD: 23
Change: -28%

Minneapolis
2023 YTD: 13
2024 YTD: 11
Change: -15%

New York City
2023 YTD: 90
2024 YTD: 74
Change: -18%

Philadelphia
2023 YTD: 98
2024 YTD: 63
Change: -36%

San Francisco
2023 YTD: 10
2024 YTD: 6
Change: -40%

Washington, DC
2023 YTD: 52
2024 YTD: 35
Change: -33%
Now compare them to 2019 numbers.
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Old Posted Yesterday, 6:24 PM
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San Francisco
2019 YTD: 7
2024 YTD: 6
Change: -14%
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Old Posted Yesterday, 7:58 PM
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Now compare them to 2019 numbers.
2023 ended up with lower overall violent crime than 2019, so most of these numbers would be a lot better in 2023 than in 2019.

Also, why compare to 2019? Why not 1819? Any way you slice it, the fact is that violent crime in the U.S. is plummeting, while a prevailing narrative claims the opposite. In the last 50 years, the U.S. hasn't been safer than the present.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...pinion/676365/
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Old Posted Yesterday, 11:47 PM
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I just saw someone used the metric "Murders per square mile" rather than the usual per capita population metric. The point was to show that their city has a high number of murders per 100.000 pop, but since the city was so sprawly it didn't really affect the population the same way as it would in an urban environment.

Is there a point to this way of reasoning?
i dk, but i would think a full city murder map would tell you almost anything you want to know at a glance. then if you were unaware you could slice and dice up examing various areas of the city anyway you want to (ses, built environment, population density, etc., etc.).
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Old Posted Yesterday, 11:56 PM
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2023 ended up with lower overall violent crime than 2019, so most of these numbers would be a lot better in 2023 than in 2019.

Also, why compare to 2019? Why not 1819? Any way you slice it, the fact is that violent crime in the U.S. is plummeting, while a prevailing narrative claims the opposite. In the last 50 years, the U.S. hasn't been safer than the present.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...pinion/676365/
I think because 2020-2022 were statistical outliers as far as crime and social instability. 2019 was the last full year where life was "normal"; pre-Covid, pre-George Floyd, pre-economic chaos due to Covid, etc
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Old Posted Today, 1:00 AM
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good news in the cleve —

most crime way down as of 3/27/24

homicides

2023 = 32
2024 = 19
% chg = -40%

https://www.cleveland19.com/2024/03/...ing-city-data/
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