Atlanta Beltline

[shivtim]

The westside Beltline project at 1220 White street is moving forward with rezoning permitting

To repurpose a warehouse on The Beltline into a mixed-use development with residential.

[cabasse]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

Let's be real here: the function of the streetcar, as planned, is for tourism/leisure and to attract more people to the beltline. It's not for commuters. I hope that with WFH and other innovations, commuting won't be as neccessary for many people— maybe building transit for leisure and something to do on the weekend is a better investment.

Imagine one that goes from Avondale to Stone Mountain and Conyers, or one that goes to six flags. It seems like it would be a more pleasant experience than having to ride a train down the interstate. We do need transit solutions for people getting across town but maybe the pro-BRT people are right about that being more cost effective. Save the train $$$ for rides that people will actually enjoy.

semi-relevant miles in transit video:

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[Julien]

Originally Posted by cabasse

semi-relevant miles in transit video:

That is coincidental. It is a 4 month old video and it showed up in my Youtube recommendations today.

[cabasse]

ha - i only saw it a few days ago myself (but i think it was a different video that popped up in my feed)

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

https://www.ajc.com/news/business/ho...OPTUAIZQZ4LLU/

Beltline officials have finalized selecting the development team that proposed the above pictured proposal for Murphy's Crossing. The first phase could break ground as soon as next year, but the full build out would likely take through to 2030.

[shivtim]

^That's amazing news confirming Culdesac as the developer. This has the potential to add a huge amount of affordable housing in a neighborhood designed to promote walk/transit/bike.

[Julien]

Westside Hollowell Pkwy

[smArTaLlone]

https://twitter.com/stoneray_/status...55073696141525

[Sojourner_Terminus]

Wonder how long that concrete depot will last. That's some prime real estate.

[Julien]

Some progress in Pediment.

Looking south and into the parking area.



Looking north.

[shivtim]

Construction on the Beltline improvements at 10th and Monroe should kick off this month:





Beltline PDF with the phases and timeline

[Julien]

Here is an interesting and VERY plausible alternative to light rail. This could also be a glimpse into the future of streetcars with full automation. It is sooooomuch cheeper to instal than rail and has sooooo many more potential benefits. Seems MARTA should take a look at this instead of investing in the past technology.

https://theconversation.com/why-trac...ht-rail-103690

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akPuPnvCBsU&t=470s

[shivtim]

That's a bus. No thanks.

[cabasse]

Originally Posted by Julien

Here is an interesting and VERY plausible alternative to light rail. This could also be a glimpse into the future of streetcars with full automation. It is sooooomuch cheeper to instal than rail and has sooooo many more potential benefits. Seems MARTA should take a look at this instead of investing in the past technology.

https://theconversation.com/why-trac...ht-rail-103690

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akPuPnvCBsU&t=470s

https://www.instagram.com/p/C43HaAqgYJ0

buses suck, even when operating in their own ROW. urbanists are all over EVs because they can be 20% heavier than a combustion powered vehicle of the same size, but buses weigh as much as 15 cars. particulate emissions and road wear from bus tires are insane. fourth power law

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at 10:45 - look at the particulates emitted on one bus route in just a single day, and imagine that right up alongside a walking path with almost no separation...

[jpk1292000]

Originally Posted by cabasse

https://www.instagram.com/p/C43HaAqgYJ0

buses suck, even when operating in their own ROW. urbanists are all over EVs because they can be 20% heavier than a combustion powered vehicle of the same size, but buses weigh as much as 15 cars. particulate emissions and road wear from bus tires are insane. fourth power law

• Video Link

at 10:45 - look at the particulates emitted on one bus route in just a single day, and imagine that right up alongside a walking path with almost no separation...

I can live with an electric bus.

[Julien]

I understand the romance of the rails. Just looking at practicality. For the price of the small section on the East side MARTA could likely encircle the entire Beltline for less money. Also there MAY be a smaller amount of NIMBY because of less noise. Plus the lower noise would be more peaceful for people on the Beltline.

ALSO in current real Beltine news work is starting on the Westside Spur to connect the Westside Connector to Merretta St.

https://atlanta.urbanize.city/post/b...cf6e-199680402

[Metrophile]

[testarossa50]

Originally Posted by Julien

I understand the romance of the rails. Just looking at practicality. For the price of the small section on the East side MARTA could likely encircle the entire Beltline for less money. Also there MAY be a smaller amount of NIMBY because of less noise. Plus the lower noise would be more peaceful for people on the Beltline.

I’m no fan of extending the streetcar along the Beltline, but I really can’t figure out what you’re saying here. Any MARTA HRT extension would be dramatically more expensive than the east side streetcar project. Except, perhaps, adding a station onto the north end of the Gold Line or something like that.

I expect each infill station to run well north of $100 million.

[alco89]

Originally Posted by Metrophile

Piedmont Park Segment Open!

Fan-freakin-tastic

[Julien]

Originally Posted by alco89

Fan-freakin-tastic

Just to add on:


Ansley Mall bridge looking complete and ready to open. Too bad Ansley Mall hasn't started on the new development.


North end and needs some addition to line up with the North East which is on the Beltline right of way.





South were it turns up to rejoin the Beltline right of way.