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Old Posted Feb 1, 2007, 5:07 PM
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Lightbulb PHILADELPHIA | Bridgeman's View Tower | 915 FT / 279 M | 66 FLOORS | NEVER BUILT

Bridgeman’s View Tower

Website: Agoos/Lovera

Location: 900 N. Delaware Ave., Philadelphia, PA 19123
Usage: Condominium, boutique hotel, office and retail space
Height: 915' (278.9 meters) Floors: 66
Architects: Agoos/Lovera
Developers:
• Marc F. Stein
• Ryan Roberts
• North Jersey real estate investment team (undisclosed)
Estimated Cost: $600,000,000
Units/Condominium: 794 units, starting at $750,000
Units/Hotel: 200-300 rooms
Groundbreaking: November 2007
Completion: 2010
Amenities/Features:
• “Amenity deck”
• Automated parking levels
• Green roof/garden
• Sky-lit glazed galleria
• Landscaped park
Trivia:
• Bridgeman's View was named as a tribute for members of the Ironworkers Local Union 401 who helped build the Ben Franklin Bridge.
• Bridgeman’s View will be the third tallest building in Philadelphia and the tallest residential tower in the city.

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Aerial view of future site (empty lot just north of Poplar St.)


Site plan


Elevations


Perspective


Model showing tower, garage, and galleria


View from Poplar Street


View from North Delaware Avenue


View from 4th and Brown Streets


View from 2nd and Poplar Streets

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wow! great for Philly!
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sweet.

Ground breaking in November. We should start to see it rise late 2008?
     
     
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overall, this tower is pretty well designed, has good interaction with the street, and the way the developers worked with the neighborhood is a stellar example of civic-minded discussion. BUT, I just can't get over the idea of how silly it will look to have the second tallest building in the city off by itself, miles from the CBD. I know a lot of people in this forum get an erection whenever they see "917 feet height", but does anyone else feel this way?

overall though, I'm pretty "meh" on the whole area, so I don't care too stongly. It adds residents.
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BUT, I just can't get over the idea of how silly it will look to have the second tallest building in the city off by itself, miles from the CBD. I know a lot of people in this forum get an erection whenever they see "917 feet height", but does anyone else feel this way?
When BV is initially complete it may look a little out of place. But as the years go on and other development in the area comes to be, I think it will be a good balance, and an expansion of the skyline horizontally instead of just vertically.

Then maybe a 1500 footer in River City wouldnt look so silly
     
     
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^^^ what do you mean all by itself? Looks like there are some existing talls around the site model, not nearly 900' but not low density, either.
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^^^ what do you mean all by itself? Looks like there are some existing talls around the site model, not nearly 900' but not low density, either.
It won't be all by itself.

Take a look at what has been proposed for the area. Not all of this is getting built, but you see the potential. I hope PennPraxis doesn't put the kibosh on future developments.
     
     
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It won't be all by itself.

Take a look at what has been proposed for the area. Not all of this is getting built, but you see the potential. I hope PennPraxis doesn't put the kibosh on future developments.
Philadelphia is on a roll. Whats so cool about this is it will really expand the skyline, in much the same way as portland's south waterfront.

Casinos in Philadelphia? Who'd'a thunk?
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This will put Philly in a league with only New York and Chicago for having three 900+ footers. Go Philly!


New York - 3 existing, 1 approved
Chicago - 2 existing, 1 approved
Houston - 2 existing
Philadelphia - 1 existing, 1 under construction, 1 proposed
Seattle - 1 existing
Dallas - 1 existing
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This will put Philly in a league with only New York and Chicago for having three 900+ footers. Go Philly!


New York - 3 existing, 1 approved
Chicago - 2 existing, 1 approved
Houston - 2 existing
Philadelphia - 1 existing, 1 under construction, 1 proposed
Seattle - 1 existing
Dallas - 1 existing
Woo hoo for Philly, but you have a ways to catch up with Chicago (or even NY). Chicago has 5 900+ footers, 2 more under construction and 2 more proposed.

http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?25530813

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Woo hoo for Philly, but you have a ways to catch up with Chicago (or even NY). Chicago has 5 900+ footers, 2 more under construction and 2 more proposed.

Good luck catchin up suckuhs!
We will eventually get there!

Is it possible Houston and Dallas do not have more 900+ footers than listed above?
     
     
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We will eventually get there!

Is it possible Houston and Dallas do not have more 900+ footers than listed above?
Nope. Speaking only of 900 to 999 feet, (not including anything over 1,000 feet), Houston has two, one 901 footer and a 992 footer. Dallas has one 921 footer.

Here is a more detailed list:

New York

Completed:
American International Building - 952 feet - 66 floors - 1932
The Trump Building - 927 feet - 70 floors - 1930
Citigroup Center - 915 feet - 59 floors - 1977
Approved:
Four World Trade Center - 947 feet - 61 floors - 2011

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Chicago

Completed:
Two Prudential Plaza - 995 feet - 64 floors - 1990
311 South Wacker Drive - 961 feet - 65 floors - 1990
Approved:
Mandarin Oriental Tower Chicago - 930 feet - 65 floors - 2008

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Houston

Completed:
Wells Fargo Plaza - 992 feet - 71 floors - 1983
Williams Tower - 901 feet - 64 floors - 1983

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Philadelphia

Completed:
One Liberty Place - 945 feet - 61 floors - 1987

Under construction:
Comcast Center - 975 feet - 57 floors - 2008

Proposed:
Bridgeman's View Tower - 915 feet - 70 floors

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Seattle

Completed:
Columbia Center - 937 feet - 76 floors - 1985

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Dallas

Completed:
Bank of America Plaza - 921 feet - 72 floors - 1985
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This will put Philly in a league with only New York and Chicago for having three 900+ footers. Go Philly!


New York - 3 existing, 1 approved
Chicago - 2 existing, 1 approved
Houston - 2 existing
Philadelphia - 1 existing, 1 under construction, 1 proposed
Seattle - 1 existing
Dallas - 1 existing
Houston has 3 900+ towers existing...Chase (1,002'), Wells Fargo (972') and Williams (901'). Also, Dubai is looking at a possibe tower at the corner of Post Oak is it? It is said to be a super tall...we'll see.
     
     
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Houston has 3 900+ towers existing...Chase (1,002'), Wells Fargo (972') and Williams (901'). Also, Dubai is looking at a possibe tower at the corner of Post Oak is it? It is said to be a super tall...we'll see.
i agree , philly's a lot of hot air. even if a couple of 900+ footers are build, it's child's play globally.
     
     
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i agree , philly's a lot of hot air. even if a couple of 900+ footers are build, it's child's play globally.
how exactly is Philly alot of "hot air" ?? You are going to have to clarify that one.

If built, Bridgemans View would bring Philly's total 900+ footer to three, figure 4 if ACC is built. Houston had a supertall proposal in the early 80's that never happened. I guess by your measure that makes Houston hot air too ? Many people would take issue with that.

if you use that standard, then i guess chicago and new york are only average, since they only have three or four supertalls compared to Dubai's 50+..... A great city is more than just supertall buildings. yes they do help, a great deal in some cases are but not everything.

maybe BVT gets built and maybe it doesn't. maybe ACC gets built, maybe it doesnt. Philadelphia is a great city without it and would be a great city with it. but you stay in Philly half the time so i guess you already know that right ?
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how exactly is Philly alot of "hot air" ?? You are going to have to clarify that one.

If built, Bridgemans View would bring Philly's total 900+ footer to three, figure 4 if ACC is built. Houston had a supertall proposal in the early 80's that never happened. I guess by your measure that makes Houston hot air too ? Many people would take issue with that.

if you use that standard, then i guess chicago and new york are only average, since they only have three or four supertalls compared to Dubai's 50+..... A great city is more than just supertall buildings. yes they do help, a great deal in some cases are but not everything.

maybe BVT gets built and maybe it doesn't. maybe ACC gets built, maybe it doesnt. Philadelphia is a great city without it and would be a great city with it. but you stay in Philly half the time so i guess you already know that right ?

I agree with you 100%
     
     
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i agree , philly's a lot of hot air. even if a couple of 900+ footers are build, it's child's play globally.
what do you mean it's child's play globally? if it's child's play, why doesn't every city have 100 of them?
I notice that many of the detractors of this building are from new york. hear the footsteps behind you?
     
     
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i agree , philly's a lot of hot air. even if a couple of 900+ footers are build, it's child's play globally.
a non-issue tailor made for the childish.....and the killjoys.....
     
     
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a non-issue tailor made for the childish.....and the killjoys.....
It makes sense to have supertalls in Houston to rise above the smog. I haven't been there in a few years but that's what I remember most about being there. I'd like to be as high as possible to avoid it.
     
     
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Some recent articles for more detail...

http://www.globest.com/news/830_830/.../152432-1.html

GlobeSt.com Commercial Real Estate News and Property Resource
Last updated: January 26, 2007 09:49am
$600M Riverfront Tower Gains Approvals
By Marita Thomas

PHILADELPHIA-Marc Stein and Ryan Roberts, two native-Philadelphia iron and steel contractors, have obtained investors, zoning approval and land to develop the city’s tallest, primarily residential tower and its third tallest building of all. Called Bridgeman’s View in tribute to Ironworkers Local Union 401, which helped construct the Ben Franklin Bridge, it will rise 66 stories at an estimated cost of $600 million.
Stein says the company has acquired a 3.5-acre riverfront parcel at 900 N. Delaware Ave. in Northern Liberties for nearly $30 million. “It has a one-acre parking lot and industrial buildings that are now about 70% leased,” he says. Groundbreaking is scheduled for this November, with delivery in 2010.

The developer entity, 2945 PDI LLC, is backed by a Northern New Jersey-based investor group, which Stein tells GlobeSt.com, “has projects in England, Gibraltar, Miami and Israel.” Without identifying the group’s members, he says, “they seek projects that have value; Philadelphia is in their sights, and they see this as an iconic addition to the city.”

Although the design is not fully complete, he tells GlobeSt.com it will include 80,000 sf of restaurants and retail on the first two floors, a 250-room boutique hotel up to the 15th floor, topped by approximately 700 residential condos. Off the 15th floor there will be an amenity deck, which Stein says, “will be a club, shared by residents, hotel guests and open to membership by neighborhood residents,” a feature worked out in discussions with the community.

“The developers have demonstrated a commitment to work with the community,” says Jennifer Lewis, president of the Northern Liberties Neighbors Association, in a statement. Among the other agreements with NLNA is the renovation of Canal Street, which will be pedestrian-only, and the inclusion of outdoor dining venues. In addition, the developer's plans call for a green building that qualifies for LEED certification.

“Financing for the hotel is in place,” Stein says, “and a couple of branded entities are now vying for it.” Condo pre-selling will begin within eight months and be handled in house. One-bedroom units of about 1,000 sf are priced in the mid-$700,000s. “Bi-level and tri-level penthouses of up to 5,000 sf or more are available,” he says, and puts overall pricing within the range of $700 per sf to $750 per sf.

Plans for Bridgeman’s View began prior to the award of a gaming license for SugarHouse Casino, which will be across from it and does not have the neighbors’ blessing. “We don’t know what impact it will have,” Stein says. “But, it’s another sign that Philadelphia is on the move. We hope it’s good for the city and the state and the neighborhood.

Bridgeman's View Tower 'full steam ahead'
Philadelphia Business Journal

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelp...ml?jst=b_ln_hl

The developers of Bridgeman's View, a proposed 950-foot-tall, $600 million residential tower along the Delaware River, have closed on the purchase of two parcels where the project is planned and have plans to break ground this fall.

Developers Marc F. Stein and Ryan Roberts, both of Philadelphia, and an undisclosed real estate investment team from North Jersey, paid a total of nearly $30 million to buy the land at 900 N. Delaware Ave., in the Northern Liberties neighborhood, Stein said. The parcels, which total 3.5 acres, were bought from various local investment groups.

"We are moving forward and this project is moving full-steam ahead," Roberts said.

The developers have zoning approval for the project, which will stand as the tallest residential tower in Philadelphia. Other tall condo projects proposed for Philadelphia have been met with controversy, including the Barnes Tower, a 500-foot, 47-story complex at 22nd Street and Pennsylvania Avenue. Bridgeman's View would add to an upswing in the development of the Delaware River front. Foxwoods Casino Philadelphia is building a $560 million project on a 16-acre parcel on South Columbus Boulevard near Reed Street and SugarHouse Casino plans a $550 million building on the site of the former Jack Frost sugar refinery, on Delaware Avenue north of the Ben Franklin Bridge.

Bridgeman's View was named as a tribute for members of the Ironworkers Local Union 401 who helped build the Ben Franklin Bridge. Both Stein and Roberts and their respective families have long had ties to the union. The tower will have 66 stories. It will consist of 794 condos starting in the mid-$700,000 range, a boutique hotel with 200 to 300 rooms and two floors of retail space. Attached to the tower will be an 80,000-square-foot "galleria" of upscale shopping.
     
     
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