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Originally Posted by bomberjet
^While I agree in principal, cold turkey cutting like this can be harmful. Cutting many yobs man. He doesn't care. As you've said, he's rich anyways.
Saying all hands on deck repeatedly, blah blah blah, then bolting to Costa Rica with virtually no contact? Wtf man. Maybe if he was better at managing his job, people wouldn't be so critical. He's a pompous ass most of the time.
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See, I don't buy that... the "he's rich anyway" thinking... and I'm not trying to sound condescending, but that's small-time thinking. Me personally, I don't care if he bolts to Costa Rica so long as his job gets done. He could do a better job living in CR permanently than Selinger if he never left his Legislative office.
There is a reason he's making cold turkey cuts, described below...
And who cares if he's pompous? Every voter wants a candidate that they can "relate" to... how "relatable" do you expect any hypothetical super-successful person capable of turning around a province to be? These guys work 80+ hrs a week, might have 3 degrees, and could be ruthless. They might be so successful that they have a Ferrari and are "out of touch". Who cares? There are trade-offs for someone who is ACTUALLY great. If a premier who was actually talented was at my BBQ I'd say "for fuck's sake, why aren't you working?"
I want a premier (or a prime minister), not a buddy.
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Originally Posted by rrskylar
How anyone can say Pallister shouldn't be cutting is dumbfounding, what part of a billion dollar deficit don't some of you get!?!!!
Manitoba has a $30 Billion dollar debt. that was doubled during the NDP regime. Do you guys have any idea the amount of tax dollars that are squandered every year for debt. servicing?!?
Manitoba has already dug such deep hole that it will make it hard to retain professionals who don't want to be taxed at the highest rates in Canada. The irreparable harm done to Manitoba during the reign of the NDP regime will take years to correct.
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That's why it's cold turkey. Pallister might have given us the kid gloves if we were only 10B in debt, but we're not. The NDP KNOWLINGLY spent themselves into THIS much debt because it would require tough love for a conservative to fix. Since we're all spoiled brats, this means the Cons might not get a sedcond term and a rebuilt NDP is ready to take over again.
Nobody likes their parents after a spanking.
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Originally Posted by Ando
Wow, I can't believe you are making the big mistake that because he's a successful businessman he must know to run the economy. That's nonsense. The Government is, as others have pointed out, not a business. The US is being run by a billionaire businessman right now and we can see how great that's going. Also, the article I attached talks about the Business Council of Manitoba, which must be filled with businessmen, bemoaning Pallister's approach. My additional point was that, when you can leverage federal cash for the province by a matching grant, it only makes sense to do it. It generates economic activity for a smaller investment on the province's behalf.
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I'm not saying, or intending to, that his experience guarantees him success as a premier. I AM saying, that it's an infinitely better starting point than whatever Selinger is/was. Denying this would be ignorant. A lot of the spendiest politicians are either career politicians or activists, or lawyers. Lawyers have to win cases, no matter the client. In politics, the lawyer's principles always mold to an ever changing voter block, hence the onslaught of promises many lib/dip lawyers provide.
Furthermore, I said in past posts I'm in favour of timely grants. I hope that after a bit of stabilizing that he considers this. But if I had a choice between no grants and whatever the dippers do, I'm for Pallister.
Heaven forbid we dig our heels in during difficult times.
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Originally Posted by OTA in Winnipeg
You mean all the shares he got when Filmon sold MTS? You must have noticed how happy he was with the Bell announcement right? And while I'm at it, where is Filmon now hmmm? Self serving, almost the majority of them.
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Sorry, but how do you not see the blatant self-serving nature of the libs/dips? Why do you think they promise EVERYTHING and spend EVERYTHING? Securing new voters. Furthermore, if given the option of a handout, most take it, because hell, the rich guy who already has money (as mentioned above) can foot the tax bill.
Not only do the rich guys hate paying more than necessary, they have an investment mind set; Where's my return on my investment? Oh, whimsical policies and huge spending? To hell in a handbasket? Sweet!
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Originally Posted by bomberjet
You know this happens in every Province, State, Country in the world. Big Smoke T.O. puts hundreds of millions into private developments.
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These deals do happen in every province, but only our province (well, maybe NS or New Brunswick also, I don't know) NEEDS a grant to even get to the idea stage. It's just good sense to pursue a grant as a developer, whether in TO or Vancouver or in Flin Flon. There may be kickbacks, but often, it's NEEDED, especially in Wpg's case. TNS, SkyCity, and likely 300 Main would never exist otherwise, because they wouldn't make any money.
This is why I don't mind well executed grants, as aforementioned. My patience for Pallister has a time limit as well, it's just not at that threshold yet.
Meanwhile many on this board are happy to welcome the dummy dippers back before Pallister has even had a chance to do much.
And "all he can do is cut" is lame, because look around... ALMOST NO politician does cuts. Because it's unpopular. He's risking tanking a second term to potentially do the right thing, but that's only an option because Selinger was SO bad.