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Old Posted Sep 29, 2020, 12:45 AM
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Nice shot with the pigeons!

There seems to be a transfer floor up there, so they must be nearing the top.

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Don't know if it was posted before but apparently, they messed up with the concrete on the exposed grid facade; apparently, it was supposed to be decorative grade concrete to be left raw similar to 432 Park Ave in New York but it's not happening anymore.

They're going to paint on top of it apparently and the folks at Reliance aren't happy
They can paint it a limestone / concrete matching colour, like they painted the podium at 889 Homer.
The spandrel panels in within the grid are far worse.

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The view from False Creek and Burrard Bridge is definitely its best angle, which is a good thing.
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2020, 1:12 AM
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There's like 3 levels of penthouses left then all the mechnical/decorative top. I think you can count up from where that angle bends back in the other direction.

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Not sure if this was shared before but interesting to see how much wider it looked compared to the finished rendering

Reference - https://cityhallwatch.wordpress.com/...ng-vs-reality/
I suppose they made the rendering a lot smaller and shorter so that it wouldn't rile up the Westenders as much. Great move!
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Yeah, nice to see it will be even more prominent than the render suggested.
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Nice shot with the pigeons!

There seems to be a transfer floor up there, so they must be nearing the top.



They can paint it a limestone / concrete matching colour, like they painted the podium at 889 Homer.
The spandrel panels in within the grid are far worse.
889 Homer is quite convincing actually - how did they get the natural concrete-like tonal variations?? I want to see more of that in this city instead of obviously-painted concrete.
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Rezoning Application - 1262-1290 Burrard Street (CD-1 Text Amendment)
The City of Vancouver has received an application to amend CD-1 (587) (Comprehensive Development) District By-law to allow:

Institutional use to include School - University or College, School - Elementary or Secondary.
Service use to include School - Arts or Self-Improvement, School - Business, School - Vocational or Trade.
https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...rard/index.htm

This would apply to floors 4 - 13 in the office tower. Also

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The project is currently under construction with anticipated
completion in second quarter of 2021.
https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...nRationale.pdf
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^ Interesting. While I would imagine that it's a for-profit college, ESL school, or similar that's interested in the space, perhaps there's an appetite on the part of the developer to advance negotiations with a public institution for a downtown campus? Kwantlan, maybe? Enlarged BCIT? Trinity Western? It's pretty far from SkyTrain, so I'm doubtful of the likelihood of a major institution going in, but who knows. Thanks for the interesting info.
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The 2011 posted rendering looks a lot more accurate.

From March 2011.

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"current renderings depict a maximum building height of '535"
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Not sure if this was shared before but interesting to see how much wider it looked compared to the finished rendering

Reference - https://cityhallwatch.wordpress.com/...ng-vs-reality/
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Basically he complains about visual tricks by the architect but then does the exact same thing in reverse.

The first 2011 photo is basically right before the first set of arches (8-9 street lamps back from Pacific though the light positions have changed after the bridge reno) and agreed that the perspective does seem correct.
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Also, I think the towers look massive in these videos from the developer.

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But I don't understand how the render has such a narrow space in between those two vertical concrete lines.



It's wierd the first video at the 0:15 mark it shows it with the proper spacing with the building in progress.

And look at this one from CBC in 2010. It also has a more realistic spacing in that center gap. The article says this proposal was 48 storeys.



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...posed-1.961442
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Also, I think the towers look massive in these videos from the developer.

But I don't understand how the render has such a narrow space in between those two vertical concrete lines.

It's wierd the first video at the 0:15 mark it shows it with the proper spacing with the building in progress.

And look at this one from CBC in 2010. It also has a more realistic spacing in that center gap. The article says this proposal was 48 storeys.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...posed-1.961442
The development application seems to have the correct spacing:
https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/commi...t-DE418686.pdf

It appears that the photo from that website was cribbed from an older rendering found in the rezoning application:
https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...rard/index.htm

That being said it doesn’t explain why the tower looks correct in the CBC report, unless they were going back and forth.
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The development application seems to have the correct spacing:
https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/commi...t-DE418686.pdf

It appears that the photo from that website was cribbed from an older rendering found in the rezoning application:
https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...rard/index.htm

That being said it doesn’t explain why the tower looks correct in the CBC report, unless they were going back and forth.
Any rezoning seldom shows the final version of a project; it sets the scale (height, volume, general massing), but the detailed design only appears at DP stage. Often the rezoning requires something to change for the DP to be approved, and, as we know, sometimes the Urban Design Panel suggest changes - even at the DP stage. This project went through three versions (at least) for rezoning, and then changed again for the DP. An early render as part of a rezoning package isn't necessarily what gets approved to be built. CityHallWatch have been following (and critiquing) this project for at least nine years, and have published several of the later, and more accurate renderings.
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Old Posted Oct 2, 2020, 6:11 AM
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The CBC photo is just that 2011 photo stretched out and pixelated.
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Old Posted Oct 3, 2020, 2:54 AM
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Based on the kink shown in this model and SpongG's Sept 25th shot,
I think there are 4 more floors to go.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=...V8Qjhx6BAgAEBI

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There seems to be a transfer floor up there, so they must be nearing the top.
Good eye on that slab od. My observational thoughts...Floorplate is at floor 52 (last of the white section of the bldg), the tiering of floors at the penthouse level as started.
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Old Posted Oct 3, 2020, 3:11 AM
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The kink seems to be in a different place on the model vs as built.
Green arrow marks the kink.
I think the red circle is the same level on the model and as built.
The model shows a small grid opening next to the kink (next level up), but your pic shows a big opening next floor up!

So that's 3 more to go.
One with the white grid and 2 above that.



Easier to figure out on the north side:


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Old Posted Oct 3, 2020, 3:26 AM
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I think they finished the floor of the last one with the grid pattern on the south side.

The really narrow gap after the kink in the physical model is the floor above the circle in this one. All the offset openings in the grid matched up when I compared the rendering and the photographs.



Also in the photo there's a gap in the floor at the far left near the crane boom... opening are for the internal staircases in the penthouses? That would be leading up to level 54.

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