CHICAGO | 400 N Lake Shore Drive | 851 FT & 765 FT | 73 & ? FLOORS

[Mimol742]

Originally Posted by HomrQT

This is amazing.

We should all send letters like this one!!!

[Ricochet48]

Upset I missed the letter deadline, as I definitely would have sent one (especially about the terracotta and height of course).

Overall this is better than a blue box, but nothing too special anymore. The LSE parcel across the river might be much more impressive at 950ft and a more unique design. Time will tell.

[BVictor1]

I heard the height 675' twice during the presentation...

The docs says 765', so I don't know if it was misspeak or what...

APPROVED!

[CrazyCres]

It has been passed

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by BVictor1

I heard the height 675' twice during the presentation...

The docs says 765', so I don't know if it was misspeak or what...

It was probably a mistake but the way this project is going who knows...

APPROVED!

Meh...

[Chicagolover88]

When is the first tower suppose to start again?

[LouisVanDerWright]

Originally Posted by bhawk66

lol. Beautiful photo of a beautiful building. But that's not even close to the same proportions stone to glass as 400 LSD

False, the Reliance building is famous for pushing the boundaries of glass coverage in it's day. The building is over 80% glass. Had the fortune to have a friend pick the hotel there for her wedding block. From inside you may as well be in a Mies building, it's incredible. You are in a 19th century structure and the entire wall of your room is glass.

[SafetyFirst]

I would have still been excited considering everything that's going on in the world until I saw that only the first tower will be built, then they'll do another traffic study, then possibly approve the second. Went from tallest building in the western hemisphere to potentially just another OBP.

[HomrQT]

The hype of this parcel 13 years ago to now is just sad. Related was ready to put up some incredible buildings and now here's where we're at.

[pianowizard]

^Indeed. The 1442 ft Tribune Tower would have been much better for this site.

The latest version does look pretty good up close, but at a meager 875 ft it's hardly visible from far away.

[bhawk66]

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

False, the Reliance building is famous for pushing the boundaries of glass coverage in it's day. The building is over 80% glass. Had the fortune to have a friend pick the hotel there for her wedding block. From inside you may as well be in a Mies building, it's incredible. You are in a 19th century structure and the entire wall of your room is glass.

The horizontal elements between floors and windows on 400 N look to be approximately 6 inches. Reliance is easily three times that. They don't compare with regards to visual affect from the terra cotta. In Reliance it is the driving force.

Agreed, it's too bad, just not as big a deal, imo.

[JMKeynes]

This new tower is gorgeous. If this were rising in Charlotte, Dallas, or Atlanta, they'd have huge woodies for it.

[Handro]

As long as that hole disappears and we get DuSable Park, I'm happy.

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by Handro

As long as that hole disappears and we get DuSable Park, I'm happy.

It's definitely better than a hole, but whenever I look at a rendering of the Spire and what could've been it's pretty inexcusable that this is what they came up with. These two buildings stacked on top of each other wouldn't even get that close to the spire and neither even reaches halfway.

I wonder if any of the complaints about how this is lame got through to them and in the enormous time table they have will consider some changes. I wouldn't bank on it but they should.


But oh well, guess we'll wait a decade for two buildings that won't even make top 50 in the USA (or 500 globally) by that time.

[chris08876]

Hopefully the time-table can be modified. This should rise to meet the demand all at once. Surely there is good demand if they price units wisely. I guess the city doesn't like its nice tax revenue. Quicker these rise, more tax the city can collect. A walk able area and its proxies, no need for traffic studies. The clientele attracted are folks working within the CBD. Folks that can afford the payments and aren't driving minivans with baby on board stickers that live 25 miles away from the core.

[ChiTownWonder]

of course this is disappointing compared to what the spire and even the first proposal could have been. At then end of the day though these towers are quite stunning, no doubt the most elegant and unique 800 footer in Chicago if not the country. I'd be satisfied if they are built as is.

[Hudson11]

Originally Posted by ChiTownWonder

of course this is disappointing compared to what the spire and even the first proposal could have been. At then end of the day though these towers are quite stunning, no doubt the most elegant and unique 800 footer in Chicago if not the country. I'd be satisfied if they are built as is.

eh i dont know, there's a lot of those. A lot of good ones. This is simply okay, which isn't the standard Chicago architecture should be held to.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by Hudson11

This is simply okay.

I gotta fully disagree with you on that score.

This is light years beyond "simply okay" IMO.

[ChiTownWonder]

Originally Posted by Hudson11

eh i dont know, there's a lot of those. A lot of good ones. This is simply okay, which isn't the standard Chicago architecture should be held to.

I’d like to hear your justification for calling this “okay” for a 800 footer. I’d say it’s pretty spectacular for its unique footprint, setbacks and massing, and implementing Chicago school bay windows. It also does a good job of maximizing lake views by having two faces overlook the lake instead of one. Not sure what more to ask for here.

[Hudson11]

For now i'll bite my tongue and wait for the final product. I'm probably still not over the alterations.