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Yeah, people in the US generally don't go to college in Canada so they're just not familiar with them.
McGill has traditionally drawn heavily from the Northeast Corridor states. It's certainly on the radar in NYC and Boston. But, yeah, outside of McGill, there probably isn't an enormous U.S. presence.
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Actually, no, that makes no objective sense. Germany has the world's fourth largest economy, and doesn't have a single university as good as Toronto. Even puny Switzerland has better universities than Germany. There are probably 10 British universities better than any German university, even though Germany is presently much richer and more powerful.

University prestige obviously isn't strongly correlated with point-in-time national wealth or population, especially given that university populations are global. It isn't like someone from China decides to attend a Canadian university based on the Canadian population or GDP.
There may be bureaucratic reasons why German universities tend to be ranked lower, at least in research output. Much of German research scientifiic research happens outside of the Universities at the Max-Planck Institutes. Of course this is true to some extent in every country, but I have a feeling this is a bigger effect in Germany. Like, everyone I know who has gone to Heidelberg hasn't gone to the eponymous university, but rather MPIA or MPIK there.
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At first sight, by the time Lagos is at 88.3 million, Okotoks' got to be at least 50 million.
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In a lot of countries, universities don't typically pursue "excellence" on the same metrics that those in the American and British models do - and which leads to impressive rankings on these lists.

To many people, a university is a place to educate your people, to give them a good life and allow them to play a positive role in your society. It's not about winning some theoretical race to building a better mousetrap before the other guys. Germany's approach is like this. So is France's.

And all of these different approaches are fine. I mean, we all appreciate those mousetraps devised by the people at MIT and Stanford too.

Another thing is that these lists also often have linguistic and cultural biases.
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At first sight, by the time Lagos is at 88.3 million, Okotoks' got to be at least 50 million.
Yes, but because "Stats Canada" has a hate-on for Alberta, Okotoks will still not be amalgamated into the CMA of Calgary, denying the people of Calgary a well-earned WOOT WOOT!
At least there is a number of things to do in Okotoks. Unlike stagnant, land-locked Montreal, which is on track to fall out of "The Big Four" soon.

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Is Okotoks sinking beneath the waves? They got seabirds too!
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Old Posted May 31, 2020, 5:14 PM
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Okotoks looks like a place worth visiting. While the center of town appears to be a mall, it almost has a main street on Elizabeth!

Calgary...biggest Canadian city I haven't been to. I'm impressed how crisp the edges are...it might be western-type densish sprawl out to a point, but then it stops. Industry appears to be almost entirely in a few industrial zones among the city, each used efficiently, including an orderly expansion zone on the east.
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That seabird and those waves... I'm getting the clear impression Okotoks is a major seaport. Surely anyone who claims it's landlocked is just a biased Alberta Hater!
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Yes, but because "Stats Canada" has a hate-on for Alberta, Okotoks will still not be amalgamated into the CMA of Calgary, denying the people of Calgary a well-earned WOOT WOOT!
Most times Chad posts a picture of the Calgary skyline, I find myself shaking my head at the missed opportunity and thinking "this view would immediately feel bigger and taller if only Okotoks was included in the CMA"
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I know. Waking up in the morning and knowing you are in a metro of 1.5 million (instead of 1.45 million b/c stats canada "hates" Calgary) is just the boss. Counting the same things differently leads to different counts, I guess.

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Yes, but because "Stats Canada" has a hate-on for Alberta, Okotoks will still not be amalgamated into the CMA of Calgary, denying the people of Calgary a well-earned WOOT WOOT!
At least there is a number of things to do in Okotoks. Unlike stagnant, land-locked Montreal, which is on track to fall out of "The Big Four" soon.
Is Okotoks sinking beneath the waves? They got seabirds too!
As a history enthusiast, the accurate Okotoks origin goes back to the 2006 census. It was on that date, when the Saddledome emptied out with deflated souls, and limp pom poms after learning once again that Ottawa retained the Ms. Congeniality distinction of remaining Canada's 4th largest Metro. The mantra at that time was a subdued "we'll get em in 2011"..Fast forward to 2011, when Ottawa once again held that coveted distinction. It was at that time, that the mention of Okotoks and the injustices towards Calgary's count were bandied around.it was then that the Okotoks movement and denials started..Even The Wiki page was attempted to be changed at that point, but to no avail...Fast forward to the 2016 census, when the Saddledome lit up and The festivities must of lasted several weeks, when lo and Behold!. Calgary was deemed the 4th largest metro in Canada!..It was unofficially the 4th largest since 1996 anyways as rumour had it, but now both Stats Can and the Calgary Wiki facts page now righted their errors that were in play for 2 decades..Since then, the mention of including Okotoks in the numbers have significantly died down, but are in the "back pocket' for any future injustices..Sadly and ironically, the real injustices are actually towards Ottawa, where outlying "almost" official commuter towns such as Carleton Place, Kemptville, and Arnprior aren't included in Ottawa's metro population numbers..That and we all know that Jocelyn In Gatneau was only standing on one foot during that historical 2016 count .Ottawa doesn't care though, because a dinner in old Montreal is only a 2 hour drive away.

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