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Old Posted Sep 19, 2020, 1:18 PM
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To date we don't know what evolution the fifth tower will take both in height and in appearance.

A tower to exceed 2200ft height ... I don't think it's feasible for now. But I say, let's start with a 2,000ft tower which wouldn't be bad.
With a 1556' roof, Tower Fifth can easily exceed 1800' by adding a spire. It's even possible to reach 1968.5' (600 m) to become a megatall: the oversized spire would account for 21.0% of the 1968.5-footer, which is a fairly large percentage but still much more reasonable than the ones listed here: https://gizmodo.com/spire-shame-why-...y-j-1264286446.

However, I still worry that there might be some "gentlemen's agreement" not to dethrone the 1776' 1WTC.
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The proposal on Instagram was crazy but awesome at the same time. Too many of us are scared to see something like that today in NY city. Whatever height a new proposal is should be well received as long as it has some real class to it. The chance of seeing a mega-tall would be just awesome without having to leave the country to see it. For me, to live long enough to see a building taller than the Burj Khalifa in NY or Chicago would be a dream come true.
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However, I still worry that there might be some "gentlemen's agreement" not to dethrone the 1776' 1WTC.

There's no agreement, but if there were, Harry Macklowe would be the first to break it. And probably by 1 ft.
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The proposal on Instagram was crazy but awesome at the same time. Too many of us are scared to see something like that today in NY city. Whatever height a new proposal is should be well received as long as it has some real class to it. The chance of seeing a mega-tall would be just awesome without having to leave the country to see it. For me, to live long enough to see a building taller than the Burj Khalifa in NY or Chicago would be a dream come true.


Maybe the Park Lane Hotel parcel will be the tower that does it in terms of 1 WTC, when the time is right of course. Eventually, the market will stop cooling down (let's hope) and become hot hot hot... so the next CPT or 111 W 57th may be coming to a parcel near you. But Park Lane... prime prime opportunity. Arguably one of the best in the city for a supertall slender or similar.

But well see what happens. Fingers crossed on 80 South. If it does happen, I'd hope its Downtown. Midtown has been getting a ton of action. Needs to share the love.

We also have Midtown East, and a few potential prospects down the line... we shall see. I don't ever foresee something over 2500', Khalifa cough cough, but something eclipsing 1 WTC, sure... its within reach in theory (supply/demand, and not just trophy tower with nothing really backing it up).
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Well, we could think of the Hudson Spire project - with a 1,800 feet (550 m) roof height at 2,000 feet (610 m) architectural height that could be located in Site 2 of the Empire Station District project, or the tower of the Park Central Hotel project 2,000 feet which could be located in Park Lane Hotel parcel or some nearby.
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