Buckhead Development

[RocketSurgeon]

Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

The Irby- Buckhead (New Renderings)

I have a feeling "Fuckhead Bistro" didn't happen by accident

[Libertarian]

Twenty white folks on the sidewalk - cool!

[shivtim]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

Twenty white folks on the sidewalk - cool!

Hey there's one guy that could be Latino. But seriously, pedestrians in Buckhead? Very unrealistic.

[Neighbor]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

Twenty white folks on the sidewalk - cool!

Never understood why people preoccupy themselves with the skin color of pedestrians in building renderings posted on an internet building enthusiast forum. Is your life truly that mundane??? Must you shoehorn racial preconceptions into every conversation you have??

[Atlanta3000]

Originally Posted by Neighbor

Never understood why people preoccupy themselves with the skin color of pedestrians in building renderings posted on an internet building enthusiast forum. Is your life truly that mundane??? Must you shoehorn racial preconceptions into every conversation you have??

To answer your question, my life is mundane enough that I question and hope others would question why an architectural rendering of a luxury apartment building located in a city with a population that is 54% black, yet the illustrator (failed to/was diected not to) include ONE image of a black man, woman or child.

This image is not unique with respect to the consistent pattern of racial exclusion in architectural renderings. Pictures have as much meaning as words do and the Ivy Buckhead picture clearly illustrates the current state of this city and country. The systemic pattern of racial exclusion is in all parts of our culture. The quicker WE recognize even things as simple as an architectural rending do have a massive impact on ultimately forming our opinions - consciously or subconsciously the better our society will be.

And that is my opinion on this matter.

[Neighbor]

And arguing over body placeholders in renderings is the cause of these racial divisions? Mandating that the people in these rendering metrically fit the city demographic is a solution to racial divisions? The truth is these images impact nothing and are viewed by very few people.

The only people upset by this are those whose world view is so myopic that it can only be seen through the prism of race. This is a complete nonissue in every sense and only serves to steer conversation towards heated racial diatribes and away from the architecture of buildings themselves.

I think I speak for more than myself when I say that I come to this forum partially as a sanctuary away from the daily political drivel. I hear enough of this in every other facet of life, can't we just talk about buildings and city design here? There are so many other outlets to vent this minor grievance, let's shift this sort of discussion somewhere else.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by Neighbor

And arguing over body placeholders in renderings is the cause of these racial divisions? Mandating that the people in these rendering metrically fit the city demographic is a solution to racial divisions? The truth is these images impact nothing and are viewed by very few people.

The only people upset by this are those whose world view is so myopic that it can only be seen through the prism of race. This is a complete nonissue in every sense and only serves to steer conversation towards heated racial diatribes and away from the architecture of buildings themselves.

I think I speak for more than myself when I say that I come to this forum partially as a sanctuary away from the daily political drivel. I hear enough of this in every other facet of life, can't we just talk about buildings and city design here? There are so many other outlets to vent this minor grievance, let's shift this sort of discussion somewhere else.

[Neighbor]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Great argument.

[Pemgin]

Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

I have a feeling "Fuckhead Bistro" didn't happen by accident

lol nice catch

[ATLMidcity]

Originally Posted by Neighbor

And arguing over body placeholders in renderings is the cause of these racial divisions? Mandating that the people in these rendering metrically fit the city demographic is a solution to racial divisions? The truth is these images impact nothing and are viewed by very few people.

The only people upset by this are those whose world view is so myopic that it can only be seen through the prism of race. This is a complete nonissue in every sense and only serves to steer conversation towards heated racial diatribes and away from the architecture of buildings themselves.

I think I speak for more than myself when I say that I come to this forum partially as a sanctuary away from the daily political drivel. I hear enough of this in every other facet of life, can't we just talk about buildings and city design here? There are so many other outlets to vent this minor grievance, let's shift this sort of discussion somewhere else.

What if all of these body placeholders where black? Would you then take notice?

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by atlanta3000

to answer your question, my life is mundane enough that i question and hope others would question why an architectural rendering of a luxury apartment building located in a city with a population that is 54% black, yet the illustrator (failed to/was diected not to) include one image of a black man, woman or child.

This image is not unique with respect to the consistent pattern of racial exclusion in architectural renderings. Pictures have as much meaning as words do and the ivy buckhead picture clearly illustrates the current state of this city and country. The systemic pattern of racial exclusion is in all parts of our culture. The quicker we recognize even things as simple as an architectural rending do have a massive impact on ultimately forming our opinions - consciously or subconsciously the better our society will be.

And that is my opinion on this matter.

+1

[Neighbor]

Not at all. We are talking about building renderings, why would I pay attention to the people? Some renderings just include the outside shapes of people with no color, are you upset that they don't show obese outlines because they now make up a significant portion of the population?

See how ridiculous this argument is?

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

Twenty white folks on the sidewalk - cool!

Unfortunately that seems to be the standard in architectural renderings for projects all over the city.

Is this intentional? Is it subliminal racism? Have architects just failed to update their software? Is there some arcane artistic reason for it?

Whatever the reason, it ought to be fixed.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Unfortunately that seems to be the standard in architectural renderings for projects all over the city.

Is this intentional? [/IMG]

Just noting the people within the renderings can be captured from any image on the internet (*usually* with permission, unless for an academic project), photo outside, wherever. It's not like they have to pick and choose from a limited stock within their software.

[Atlanta3000]

Originally Posted by Neighbor

Not at all. We are talking about building renderings, why would I pay attention to the people? Some renderings just include the outside shapes of people with no color, are you upset that they don't show obese outlines because they now make up a significant portion of the population?

See how ridiculous this argument is?

Sure the argument may seem ridiculous if you are narrowly assuming our statements are JUST about racial exclusion in architectural renderings. However, I think you are smart enough to realize the debate here stems from the much larger issues on racial exclusion, treatment, discrimination, employment, wealth, justice system, education, home ownership, media....etc.

Not to get into an argument, but the only ridiculous aspect of this debate is if anyone truly believes there is not a racial divide in this city and country. The architectural rendering issue is just the tip of the f'en iceberg, but the debate needs to start somewhere and in this case it is something as "ridiculous" as racial exclusion in architectural renderings. Cheese 'n Rice can't these illustrators throw African Americans a bone and draw at least 1 brotha or sista into the picture?

Seriously, in the real world there may be 2 Americas, but can't the architects at least make the world seem a little more harmonious in a goddamn picture? To me that is what is ridiculous.

[arctk2014]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Unfortunately that seems to be the standard in architectural renderings for projects all over the city.

Is this intentional? Is it subliminal racism? Have architects just failed to update their software? Is there some arcane artistic reason for it?

Whatever the reason, it ought to be fixed.

FYI - this isn't a rendering - it's an actual representation of PCM's client demographics.

[ATLMidcity]

Originally Posted by arctk2014

FYI - this isn't a rendering - it's an actual representation of PCM's client demographics.

Yep, and right off the bat, I see a couple of black people, a fat ass or two, and I think I see Trumps' fat ass dressed in a green Polo shirt and tan trousers while sporting a "Make Mercia Great Again" f'ing red hat!

That's how you rep this city...

[Pemgin]

That PCM scene looks lame af

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by Pemgin

That PCM scene looks lame af

It's gimmicky for sure. 9 mile station (the restaurant/bar) is worth it for the views. The carney bs is certainly lame, though.

[bigstick]

Originally Posted by arctk2014

FYI - this isn't a rendering - it's an actual representation of PCM's client demographics.

WTF, Anyway why is this in the Buckhead Village Development thread???