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Old Posted Feb 5, 2008, 3:50 AM
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Click on this link for some really sweet night shots of ToA, MR, and GH
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Wow, those are gorgeous!
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Wow, those are gorgeous!
This one's my favorite. Really impressive angle. The MR and GH together are really shaping up SA.
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Headed to San Antonio/Schertz today for the week. I should take a few pix. Hope I can figure out this pano feature.
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Headed to Schertz? You don't live there?
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I live in Houston.
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I live in Houston.
Do you think you could snap a shot of the skyline from I-10 E? Say near the AT&T Center?
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River dropped as new site for fed courthouse
Web Posted: 02/05/2008 02:26 AM CST

Scott Huddleston
Express-News

A 5-acre tract beside the San Antonio River has been eliminated as a potential site for a new federal courthouse.

That means a proposed new courthouse will either stay in the HemisFair area or replace San Antonio's 45-year-old police headquarters.

Monday's announcement by the U.S. General Services Administration ends a battle that neighborhood and historical preservationists had waged against plans for a new courthouse by the river, at the northwest corner of Dwyer Street and Durango Boulevard.

Besides an impact on an area where walkers and joggers like to exercise near a landscaped section of the river, opponents also were concerned about the future of two historic homes and hundreds of venerable trees.

"This is great news," said Marcia Ince, San Antonio Conservation Society president.

Of the three final sites in the running, the one federal officials dubbed the "river site" caused the most heartburn, Ince said.

"We definitely did not want it on the river because of the historic structures," she said.

Two sites remain under consideration: a 2-acre spot in HemisFair Park, just east of the existing U.S. courthouse, and the San Antonio Police Department's 7-acre headquarters at 214 W. Nueva St.

That in turn would create a need for a new modern police station, which some city officials would welcome.

Shala Geer-Smith, regional spokeswoman for the General Services Administration in Fort Worth, said the agency decided to drop the river site after a draft environmental assessment study raised significant problems.

"It was obvious that it was third on the list, way far down from the other sites," said Geer-Smith.

Concerns about historic preservation, neighborhood compatibility and cost, and a "community outcry" at a public hearing in November left the agency with a sense that the river site wouldn't work, she said. Although the services administration welcomes comments in response to the draft study through Feb. 29, it's asking people to focus on the HemisFair and police headquarters sites.

The agency hopes to make its final selection this spring.

Its 83-page draft study, now posted on the Internet, cites concerns about the river site, including two Queen Anne-style houses that would have to be razed, moved or preserved. One is occupied. The other, at 408 Dwyer St., is a law office. The site also is near other historic homes and structures, including the old U.S. Army arsenal that serves as H-E-B headquarters.

There also are possible "archeological deposits," particularly from the mid-1800s, and potential conflicts with the city's land-use plans for the area.

Federal officials have said the current circular courthouse, which served as the U.S. Pavilion during HemisFair '68, is too small for the courts in the western district of Texas and other agencies that work with them.

Carla Morrison, a lawyer who restored the former Sanchez House, a two-story house built on Dwyer in the early 1900s, led a "Save Our River" campaign against the river site. As of Monday, 170 anonymous and signed comments, most in opposition to the site, had been posted on a Web site the campaign created last spring.

What began as a fight to stop acquisition of her building through eminent domain became a crusade to protect a neighborhood sandwiched between downtown tourism and homes to the south, she said.

"It's really a neighborhood that's coming back," said Morrison, who handles child abuse and neglect cases.

"It's been a great community effort," she said. "We should all give ourselves a pat on the back for saving our river."

U.S. District Judge Xavier Rodriguez, the judicial liaison in the site selection, said his primary concerns about the river site were parking and potential flooding. Although it made a short list from an original list of 18 sites when the search began eight years ago, it didn't offer the strengths of the HemisFair and police headquarters sites, Rodriguez said.

"All along, the river site has been a distant third for consideration," he said.
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This is good news and now it looks like the combined Federal Courthouse/Police HQ/Fire fighters HQ is closer to becoming a reality.

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This is good news. That site was wrong from the get go. Hopefully the police site is selected and not the one in Hemisfair Park.
why do you prefer that one? just curious.
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This is good news and now it looks like the combined Federal Courthouse/Police HQ/Fire fighters HQ is closer to becoming a reality.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=140684
^^^^^^i do see that link...but i wonder if the hemisfair site (2 acres) wouldn't be more of a vertical necessity than the police hq (7 acres)...
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2008, 8:40 PM
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why do you prefer that one? just curious.
Because of the 3 combined facilities. I believe the city will go this route if the Police HQ is selected. Also, the sooner those buildings on Hemisfair Park are vacated the sooner it can become a turn urban park for downtown.
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Because of the 3 combined facilities. I believe the city will go this route if the Police HQ is selected. Also, the sooner those buildings on Hemisfair Park are vacated the sooner it can become a turn urban park for downtown.
ever see those sites (if abandoned by the gov) torn down and used for commercial property...i.e. office, hotel or residential towers?

i fear that somehow the buildings links to 1968 and hemisfair may keep them as permanent , low-slung fixtures of that area.
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^^^^^^i do see that link...but i wonder if the hemisfair site (2 acres) wouldn't be more of a vertical necessity than the police hq (7 acres)...
I think there would be more incentive to go vertical with the Police HQ site as it wouldn't be one sole building housing all three departments but instead three separate structures on the seven acres that would connected via a plaza.
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ever see those sites (if abandoned by the gov) torn down and used for commercial property...i.e. office, hotel or residential towers?

i fear that somehow the buildings links to 1968 and hemisfair may keep them as permanent , low-slung fixtures of that area.
I don't see that. I could possibly see them converted by the city into something that could be connected to the park, i.e. a learning center or museum of some sort. I could see them easily torn down, wasn't the Hemisfair Arena torn down?
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A new police HQ will be great our old one looks like it sells pol supplies lol
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I'd be against any height within Hemisfair Park if there was a chance it would block or cramp views from the tower. I'd like to see more park space there as sirkingwilliam said. More landscaping with flowers and trees (tropical plants). Walkways and park benches. And maybe some more water features. There aren't a lot of parks on the east side of downtown. The Alamo sort of doubles as one, and then you have Hemisfair Park. Other than that there are few in the central area. Of course there are others farther west and north.

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Hemisfair Arena torn down?
Yes. It occupied some of the land where the convention center now sits.
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Has anyone heard anything about this Witte Museum master plan? i know it really doesnt belong in here but i didnt want to start a whole new thread for it.
http://www.wittemuseum.org/Capital%2...0Plan%201.html
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I like it more and more each day.
Me too. I'm glad that it still looks tall even from Hemisfair Park.
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