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Old Posted Nov 7, 2017, 5:57 AM
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Hmmm, I keep coming back to this one. I liked the open feel to the Riverwalk of the original, but I also like the increased height, balance of this new rendering.

It's not groundbreaking, but it fits.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2017, 11:37 AM
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Hmmm, I keep coming back to this one. I liked the open feel to the Riverwalk of the original, but I also like the increased height, balance of this new rendering.

It's not groundbreaking, but it fits.
I need to see more renderings. The original design was thing of architectural beauty.
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I need to see more renderings. The original design was thing of architectural beauty.
Especially street level, Commerce renderings, plus the structure looking East.
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Quick update.

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The 53-unit Floodgate apartment complex on the River Walk, whose developer, Keller Henderson, said it will offer rents at the until-now-unheard-of-rate of $4 a square foot, received a $3.9 million package in December, according to the city records.
Mysa.com article about incentives.
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15 or 17 Floors?

Has this project been upped to 17 floors??
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Old Posted May 20, 2018, 3:47 PM
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Has this project been upped to 17 floors??
From the prelim agenda, it looks like it has! We should be seeing the final agenda with renderings soon (I think it comes out Friday before the HDRC meeting). I'm hoping that the design gets better than version 2.0 we saw with 15 floors. 1.0 was REALLY cool. It's going to be a pretty cool stretch of street with the hotel going up and Main Plaza across the way!
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From the prelim agenda, it looks like it has! We should be seeing the final agenda with renderings soon (I think it comes out Friday before the HDRC meeting). I'm hoping that the design gets better than version 2.0 we saw with 15 floors. 1.0 was REALLY cool. It's going to be a pretty cool stretch of street with the hotel going up and Main Plaza across the way!

The hotel? Do you mean the Cambria? Is that project still a green light?
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The hotel? Do you mean the Cambria? Is that project still a green light?
I’m guessing he means the Canopy, which is literally right next door.
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Here's the HDRC presentation. It doesn't include much that we haven't already seen.

https://sanantonio.legistar.com/Legi...tions=&Search=
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Here's the HDRC presentation. It doesn't include much that we haven't already seen.

https://sanantonio.legistar.com/Legi...tions=&Search=
That looks to be what they submitted in March, before the revised design and added height.

Surely they’ll have something new to submit to the upcoming HDRC meeting they’re on?
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With the Solodad hotel, Canopy Hotel, the Cambria (if still to be built) and the Floodgate (I believe), I am wondering how this area is going to be supported without any new parking structures. The new Frost Tower adds in new nighttime parking, but during the day...that still remains to be seen. It is hard to put in parking on some of those lots right on the River, but this might be a serious issue come a year or two from now, especially with special events that go on downtown, particularly Fiesta. On that note, this will just be another reason for parking to go up again (this year was really bad with some places charging between 30-40) with more limiting parking spaces soon to be present.

Only just recently, with the San Pedro Creek ceremony, some places (area new CPS) were charging $20 for single parking. This was absolutely absurd for a public park opening, regardless of the area around the park being private. This might be one of the downfalls for this park - absurd parking rates in and around the park equals limiting attendance which equals failing public spaces.
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With the Solodad hotel, Canopy Hotel, the Cambria (if still to be built) and the Floodgate (I believe), I am wondering how this area is going to be supported without any new parking structures. The new Frost Tower adds in new nighttime parking, but during the day...that still remains to be seen. It is hard to put in parking on some of those lots right on the River, but this might be a serious issue come a year or two from now, especially with special events that go on downtown, particularly Fiesta. On that note, this will just be another reason for parking to go up again (this year was really bad with some places charging between 30-40) with more limiting parking spaces soon to be present.

Only just recently, with the San Pedro Creek ceremony, some places (area new CPS) were charging $20 for single parking. This was absolutely absurd for a public park opening, regardless of the area around the park being private. This might be one of the downfalls for this park - absurd parking rates in and around the park equals limiting attendance which equals failing public spaces.
Find street parking, I paid $2 for one hour.
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Find street parking, I paid $2 for one hour.
Oh, I paid .30 cents per hour. I was lucky. Last space in the lot. But the point was parking being limited, and I know downtown well. Most don't, most are from out of town. It's off putting for many. And counterproductive to what downtown is trying to become.
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Oh, I paid .30 cents per hour. I was lucky. Last space in the lot. But the point was parking being limited, and I know downtown well. Most don't, most are from out of town. It's off putting for many. And counterproductive to what downtown is trying to become.
True. But still... it's like that in most downtowns. I feel like this project is going to have to find more parking for tenants now that I think about it.
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Oh, I paid .30 cents per hour. I was lucky. Last space in the lot. But the point was parking being limited, and I know downtown well. Most don't, most are from out of town. It's off putting for many. And counterproductive to what downtown is trying to become.
No, using up more space for cars is counterproductive to what downtown is trying to become.
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With the Solodad hotel, Canopy Hotel, the Cambria (if still to be built) and the Floodgate (I believe), I am wondering how this area is going to be supported without any new parking structures. The new Frost Tower adds in new nighttime parking, but during the day...that still remains to be seen. It is hard to put in parking on some of those lots right on the River, but this might be a serious issue come a year or two from now, especially with special events that go on downtown, particularly Fiesta. On that note, this will just be another reason for parking to go up again (this year was really bad with some places charging between 30-40) with more limiting parking spaces soon to be present.

Only just recently, with the San Pedro Creek ceremony, some places (area new CPS) were charging $20 for single parking. This was absolutely absurd for a public park opening, regardless of the area around the park being private. This might be one of the downfalls for this park - absurd parking rates in and around the park equals limiting attendance which equals failing public spaces.

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No, using up more space for cars is counterproductive to what downtown is trying to become.
I find it funny that your avatar is a car, but you seem to hate cars. Irony aside, San Antonio is a car centric city. It is impossible to change that quickly. Most San Antonio residents, by a big margin, live, and work, outside the CBD. Even with the moves of USAA, and the building of the Frost Tower, the demographics don't change.

Believe me, I understand, but San Antonio will never be a Downtown centered, car-less society. San Antonio is the least likely in Texas to get there. Dallas is landlocked for that very reason.

The vast majority of SA residents reside outside the CBD. Residential activity may very well increase within this district, but it won't alleviate the amount of people, who all see DT as theirs, from wanting to come there.

Or are you advocating DT become so expensive, that the Southside, Westside, and Eastside, need not come?[/QUOTE]

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Ride your bike down there. I LOVE bike rides in San Antonio. Whenever I'm in town and over at the Freeman Coliseum, I ride my bike from there to downtown - taking the Hays Street Bridge along the way.
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