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Old Posted May 27, 2008, 2:05 AM
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San Antonio has a good deal of large businesses, but where the problem lies is the archaic laws the conservation society has forced on the city.

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Old Posted May 27, 2008, 2:08 AM
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I wouldn't say the Conservation Society is being completely unreasonable. Without them we wouldn't have a lot of structures that make SA unique.
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Old Posted May 27, 2008, 2:13 AM
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About Vidorra,
I heard that some of the customer that had purchased units during the design phase, were very upset with the change in design for the condo.
I talked to someone in there sales office, and they said it was the historical society, complaining about the building not fitting in with the St. Pauls Square area.

My beef, about the conservation society, is that they did nothing to save the Brackenridge Swiss Sky ride, which was a great way to experience the SA skyline.
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Old Posted May 27, 2008, 4:46 AM
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I actually like the new Vidorra design more than the original one with the fins. The original design looked like it was more suited for the Pearl District here in Portland than San Antonio. What "looks cool" in one city doesn't necessarily fit in another. I'm glad the historical society was able to get the design changed.

In the future I'd like to see a couple of buildings like the Vidorra show up in River North.
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Old Posted May 27, 2008, 7:53 AM
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I wouldn't say the Conservation Society is being completely unreasonable. Without them we wouldn't have a lot of structures that make SA unique.
This is unique? This is San Antonio? This downtown.



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Old Posted May 27, 2008, 9:50 AM
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I think the Conservation Society is doing its best to keep San Antonio lame.
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This is unique? This is San Antonio? This downtown.





Every city has cheesy mid level hotels downtown. Don't expect too much from the new Embassy Suites; it will not look any better.
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Every city has cheesy mid level hotels downtown. Don't expect too much from the new Embassy Suites; it will not look any better.
I don't know.... I think the Embassy Suites will either go with the colorful look (Valencia) or the faux-historic look. I can't see the HDRC approving another building that looks like the Holiday Inn on the Riverwalk...and I don't think that a building on Houston Street and the Riverwalk could ever be quite as cheesy as the La Quinta at the intersection of Parking lot and Interstate.
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Old Posted May 27, 2008, 10:45 PM
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I'm not saying the CS is perfect, far from it. Lots of times I think they go after the wrong things, and then something more important gets torn down. But if they didn't exist there would be no one to preserve historic structures in a historic city. They just need to prioritize.
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Old Posted May 28, 2008, 2:21 AM
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Found something about the AT&T site:

http://www.sanantonioriver.org/sbc_site.html

This is probably completely outdated, since its SBC. But hey, its something.
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Old Posted May 28, 2008, 9:21 AM
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The best thing was the Mayor downsizing the HDRC. That'll help in the long run.
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Old Posted May 28, 2008, 9:22 AM
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Found something about the AT&T site:

http://www.sanantonioriver.org/sbc_site.html

This is probably completely outdated, since its SBC. But hey, its something.
It is very outdated. The building (drawing) to the left is actually a SAHA's development.
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Two questions:

A) Is there some ordinance besides "no building can be visible behind the Alamo" that's preventing those parking lots from being something other than, well, parking lots?

B) Why the heck does Days Inn need that many signs?
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Old Posted May 29, 2008, 4:23 AM
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Two questions:

A) Is there some ordinance besides "no building can be visible behind the Alamo" that's preventing those parking lots from being something other than, well, parking lots?

B) Why the heck does Days Inn need that many signs?
A. Don't think so other than a building can't be visible behind the Alamo.

B. Looks like there's three different Days Inns?
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Two questions:

A) Is there some ordinance besides "no building can be visible behind the Alamo" that's preventing those parking lots from being something other than, well, parking lots?

B) Why the heck does Days Inn need that many signs?
A) No ordinance, there is just no reason to build anything.
B) This photo actually captures another dimension that shows the sign gaining strength and moving to take over downtown.
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Old Posted May 29, 2008, 9:18 AM
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I see great residential potential right here. Low-rises, 3-5 stories, mixed-use, bottom retail or office, underground parking.
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A) No ordinance, there is just no reason to build anything.
B) This photo actually captures another dimension that shows the sign gaining strength and moving to take over downtown.
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ya, that area could at some point be a mid-rise neighborhood, stair-stepping up the further it gets from the alamo. i doubt that it will be anything but more hotels, though, if that....i remember andres talking about how tall something has to be in order to be a money-winner...the land is so expensive that there has to be REALLY expensive residential (la cascada/alteza) or a ton of hotel rooms. a five-story building affords neither of those options.
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Old Posted May 29, 2008, 2:02 PM
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Just think, if the Days Inn phenomenon continues to grow, they might just take over the city. The Days Inn could even take over the Grand Hyatt, assimilating all Hyatt employees into Days Inn employees. The Days Inn would then plant their sign atop the Grand Hyatt as a victory statement, claiming the city's tallest title for sure and slapping Marriott in the face to 2nd place. Beware of Days Inn.

I've always wondered about those two parking lots myself. Whatever is built there had better be attractive, because it would be on just about every postcard of the Alamo. That little fact would mean whatever is built would itself become quite famous.
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