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I don't know whats more fascist - the entire response to this thing, or the fact that Trudeau is about to hand himself free reign, with no limits...
I don't think you know what fascist means.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2020, 8:52 PM
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Just found out that starting Mar 17 Tim Hortons is shutting down in store seating. They will still let you in to do take out if you don't want to go thru the drive thru.
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Just found out that starting Mar 17 Tim Hortons is shutting down in store seating. They will still let you in to do take out if you don't want to go thru the drive thru.
Starbucks started that today as well. In many USA states, it's all restaurants and bars. I can see that coming here to in the coming days
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I don't know whats more fascist - the entire response to this thing, or the fact that Trudeau is about to hand himself free reign, with no limits...
Why do you think Trudeau is going to give himself free reign without limit? Do you think he is going to enact the War Measures Act or something? If anything, the federal government has been more limited in its actions than the provinces (and generally speaking for the reason that the provinces have more control over health issues due to jurisdictional split of powers). I know that there was a right-wing rumour going around yesterday that the federal government was going to declare martial law and bring in the military, is that what you are referring to? I would ignore things like that.
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Because he loves to troll. WTF is Trudeau gonna do? Public hysteria incited by social media. Don't even bother trying to talk sense into nutcase conservatives, especially from Alberta.

It's bloody hilarious re:Trudeau. Like he's lining his pockets with your tax dollars. Show me the receipts. Let's see them? There is nothing. Look down in the states for someone fleecing the government out in the open.
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So councillor Nason walked out of a council meeting today cause he heard someone coughing in the gallery.
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We've been fortunate so far. Our lack of international air service helps in that regard. But all it would take is a family gathering where a dozen people are unknowingly infected and spreading, and we're off to the races.
Manitoba is on the same pace as Alberta. 7 cases after 5 days. With way less population. Our fortune is that we are a week later so hopefully the drastic measures work better.
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MB cases 8. Deaths 0.
All cases in MB related to travel thus far.
Canada 450, 4 deaths all in BC.
As of 3/18 only Canadians & US citizens allowed to enter Canada, with some exceptions.
Hard to believe MB casinos still open.
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MB cases 8. Deaths 0.
All cases in MB related to travel thus far.
Canada 450, 4 deaths all in BC.
As of 3/18 only Canadians & US citizens allowed to enter Canada, with some exceptions.
Hard to believe MB casinos still open.
"Related to travel" is interesting to me. We know many of our cases were in the public for a period of days before isolating. Our government is not following up with community contacts the way Ontario and BC did.

It's here. Just a matter of when the testing catches up to the incubation period.
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Manitoba is on the same pace as Alberta. 7 cases after 5 days. With way less population. Our fortune is that we are a week later so hopefully the drastic measures work better.
That’s just not accurate. March 6 was the first Coronavirus case in Alberta. By the tenth they had 14.


https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...ps-up-testing/

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalne...9-hinshaw/amp/
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Manitoba is on the same pace as Alberta. 7 cases after 5 days. With way less population. Our fortune is that we are a week later so hopefully the drastic measures work better.
Alberta 4.4 M people

Manitoba 1.3 M people

Nice article on New Zealand today!
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^^If I were Prime Minister I would deploy the Canadian Army along the border at all entry points/airports with, all of them, having testing stations.

Because, clearly, this could end up with a lot of people dead. Anyone seen the news in Italy? 12 funerals in 6 hours? Anyone?

And the U.S. doesn't have a hold of this, not at all.

https://www.livescience.com/coronavi...ed-states.html
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Why do you think Trudeau is going to give himself free reign without limit? Do you think he is going to enact the War Measures Act or something? If anything, the federal government has been more limited in its actions than the provinces (and generally speaking for the reason that the provinces have more control over health issues due to jurisdictional split of powers). I know that there was a right-wing rumour going around yesterday that the federal government was going to declare martial law and bring in the military, is that what you are referring to? I would ignore things like that.
The Quarantine Act probably isn’t all that far off the War Measures Act. Historically, epidemics have been a major concern for society and the legislative tools for dealing with them are fairly forceful.
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The Quarantine Act. Historically, epidemics have been a major concern for society and the legislative tools for dealing with them are fairly forceful.

Someone should tell this to the Prime Minister.
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^^If I were Prime Minister I would deploy the Canadian Army along the border at all entry points/airports with, all of them, having testing stations.

Because, clearly, this could end up with a lot of people dead. Anyone seen the news in Italy? 12 funerals in 6 hours? Anyone?

And the U.S. doesn't have a hold of this, not at all.

https://www.livescience.com/coronavi...ed-states.html
In Italy it’s basically anyone over 80 with severe cases of COVID-19 being sacrificed to save younger patients with limited health care resources!

Experts are predicting the same thing can/will unfold in the US!
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2020, 3:18 AM
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In Italy it’s basically anyone over 80 with severe cases of COVID-19 being sacrificed to save younger patients with limited health care resources.

Experts are predicting the same thing can/will unfold in the US.
Fixed that for you.

And it looks like it very likely will happen in the U.S. too. Numbers are starting to look high.
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Why do you think Trudeau is going to give himself free reign without limit? Do you think he is going to enact the War Measures Act or something? If anything, the federal government has been more limited in its actions than the provinces (and generally speaking for the reason that the provinces have more control over health issues due to jurisdictional split of powers). I know that there was a right-wing rumour going around yesterday that the federal government was going to declare martial law and bring in the military, is that what you are referring to? I would ignore things like that.
So when I'm out of a job & homeless because Trudeau doesn't give a fuck about the millions living paycheque to paycheque, without money for spare expenses, food, rent etc - I'm sure I can just "ignore" living in a cardboard box, while him and his buddies basically swim around in our tax dollars, while watching everyone else basically get kicked out of their homes, starve or something else unbecoming of a First World country...

Now, if theres some ACTUAL money coming into our pockets, with the military providing supplies and food? Maybe I could *trust* the federal government. But until Trudeau coughs up paycheques and groceries for the rest of us living on the edge? I can't trust shit out of his mouth. Same for the premiers.

The only bright side out of this: thanks to the incompetence of people controlling the levers in Winnipeg, at least this supposed "pandemic" won't be as bad, since the WAA and others don't know the concept that "international travel trade and tourism = $$$". But hey, what do I know?! I was born and RAISED in Winnipeg. Its bad enough out here in Alberta, but when shit hits the fan inside the Perimeter?! WPS sure as fuck won't be able to keep the crowds at bay. The Army is going to have to come in. Without them, it will be a nightmare for anyone unfortunate enough to be within stones throw of Winnipeg. Especially without the armed forces in the city, minus a few reservists & CF-18s which could provide recon & shitscare tactics (low passes), at best, to control the mobs.

So whatever bullshit tactics and vanilla screetching is coming out of the talking heads, there should be plans for groceries and rental/employment insurance support, at the VERY LEAST. Without it, Calgarys already bad enough, but at least people can keep the lid on, out here. The second people in Winnipeg go without any food, rent $$$, groceries or even any form of government assistance? Anarchy will be an *understatement*.

ACTUAL plans are needed. And to be honest with you guys, Trudeau, Pallister and Kenney AREN'T known for bright ideas. Especially the first two. So whatever is going to happen, it better happen NOW.

And for the record, is there anybody else concerned that Canada is about to implode? Or are we all just going to keep pretending that "everything is fine"? Trudeau along with the NDP have practically steamrolled most of the country... but with $20 oil, a "pandemic" and virtually no leadership, no GDP growth, no jobs, no nothing?! Shits about to get ugly, yet NOBODY here seems to be concerned. It's ridiculous. Makes me think of the "bread and circuses" before Rome was obliterated... isn't there ANYBODY on SSP, concerned about ANY of this?!??!
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So when I'm out of a job & homeless because Trudeau doesn't give a fuck about the millions living paycheque to paycheque, without money for spare expenses, food, rent etc - I'm sure I can just "ignore" living in a cardboard box, while him and his buddies basically swim around in our tax dollars, while watching everyone else basically get kicked out of their homes, starve or something else unbecoming of a First World country...

Now, if theres some ACTUAL money coming into our pockets, with the military providing supplies and food? Maybe I could *trust* the federal government. But until Trudeau coughs up paycheques and groceries for the rest of us living on the edge? I can't trust shit out of his mouth. Same for the premiers.

The only bright side out of this: thanks to the incompetence of people controlling the levers in Winnipeg, at least this supposed "pandemic" won't be as bad, since the WAA and others don't know the concept that "international travel trade and tourism = $$$". But hey, what do I know?! I was born and RAISED in Winnipeg. Its bad enough out here in Alberta, but when shit hits the fan inside the Perimeter?! WPS sure as fuck won't be able to keep the crowds at bay. The Army is going to have to come in. Without them, it will be a nightmare for anyone unfortunate enough to be within stones throw of Winnipeg. Especially without the armed forces in the city, minus a few reservists & CF-18s which could provide recon & shitscare tactics (low passes), at best, to control the mobs.

So whatever bullshit tactics and vanilla screetching is coming out of the talking heads, there should be plans for groceries and rental/employment insurance support, at the VERY LEAST. Without it, Calgarys already bad enough, but at least people can keep the lid on, out here. The second people in Winnipeg go without any food, rent $$$, groceries or even any form of government assistance? Anarchy will be an *understatement*.

ACTUAL plans are needed. And to be honest with you guys, Trudeau, Pallister and Kenney AREN'T known for bright ideas. Especially the first two. So whatever is going to happen, it better happen NOW.

And for the record, is there anybody else concerned that Canada is about to implode? Or are we all just going to keep pretending that "everything is fine"? Trudeau along with the NDP have practically steamrolled most of the country... but with $20 oil, a "pandemic" and virtually no leadership, no GDP growth, no jobs, no nothing?! Shits about to get ugly, yet NOBODY here seems to be concerned. It's ridiculous. Makes me think of the "bread and circuses" before Rome was obliterated... isn't there ANYBODY on SSP, concerned about ANY of this?!??!

What an example of fear-mongering trolling.

Honestly, do you even LIVE in Alberta? You think people here are going to be magically more civilized than anywhere else? Boy, you need to get a grip, and fast, because you are living in fantasy world all on your own and making a complete fool of yourself with your bizarre nonsense.
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What an example of fear-mongering trolling.

Honestly, do you even LIVE in Alberta? You think people here are going to be magically more civilized than anywhere else? Boy, you need to get a grip, and fast, because you are living in fantasy world all on your own and making a complete fool of yourself with your bizarre nonsense.
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