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Exclusive Look at Plans for Hudson Rail Yards

By: NY1 News
April 14, 2011

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Demolition is under way to make room for a massive development project at the Hudson Rail Yards.

NY1 got an exclusive look at the plans.

The president of Related Hudson Yards says there will be 14 new towers, 5,000 residential units, retail stores, a cultural center, a hotel, a school and lots of green space.

The site is divided into two sections: Hudson Yards East and West with 11th Ave. in the middle.

Phase 1 is on the East Side of 11th Ave.

Aside from the buildings themselves, the developer will also build an underground infrastructure that will service the entire community.

"We have our own power generation, we have our own centralized waste management, we will collect all of our own rain water cover, said Jay Cross, president of Related Hudson Yards. “It’s not very often you get to building 26 acres of brand new land and rather than just plugging into the ny streets, we are going to create a whole infrastructure city below the streets."

Phase 1 should be ready for occupancy by 2015, but completion of the master plan is at least 10 to 15 years away.

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Old Posted Apr 21, 2011, 12:14 PM
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Something else to keep an eye on, with the success of selling the development rights over the railyards, the MTA looks to profit from some of it's other properties, leading to more potential development sites. Ironically, the MTA once considered building it's own headquarters as part of the railyard development.



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M.T.A. Is Planning to Sell Its Midtown Headquarters




By CHARLES V. BAGLI
April 20, 2011


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The Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which has consolidated departments and reduced its payroll under severe financial pressure, now plans to sell its headquarters and two adjoining buildings on Madison Avenue in a deal that it says could reap more than $150 million.

Transportation officials are hoping that a developer will pay top dollar for the properties, three 20-story office buildings that form the eastern blockfront between 44th and 45th Streets. A buyer could demolish the structures and erect a modern skyscraper, and could also buy unused development rights over Grand Central Terminal and build an even taller tower than might otherwise be allowed.

“The point is, it’s a valuable asset,” said Jeffrey B. Rosen, the transportation authority’s director of real estate.

The decision comes as developers are beginning to shake off a three-year hibernation following the collapse of a speculative real estate boom in 2008. Investors are once again buying office buildings, while developers are looking to revive dormant projects or start new ones.

The three buildings might look bland and unappealing, but the allure is their location in a prime office district next to Grand Central, a workday entry point for executives coming from New York’s northern suburbs. The Yale Club is on the same square block.

While the buildings — 341, 345 and 347 Madison Avenue — may not be of architectural note, the authority’s headquarters and its hearing rooms have been the site of many a raucous demonstration, by employees, transit riders opposed to fare increases and cuts in service, or opponents of development on authority properties. It bought 347 Madison in 1979 for $11.9 million and 341 and 345 Madison in 1991 for $12.25 million and $23.75 million respectively.

The transportation authority considered selling the buildings before, in 1998 and in 2005, but decided against it each time. “I’d take a look,” the developer Douglas Durst said Tuesday, “for the third time.”

Mr. Rosen said a sale, or possibly a long-term lease, would happen this time. Jay H. Walder, the authority’s chairman, has streamlined departments, cutting 3,500 positions in the last year from its New York City Transit, Metro-North Railroad and Long Island Rail Road operations. The authority is also evaluating its space needs at 26 other buildings it owns or leases.

About 20 percent of the job cuts were at the authority’s headquarters. The plan is to move many of the remaining 873 employees at the buildings on Madison Avenue to 2 Broadway, a 30-story building between Beaver and Stone Streets in the financial district where the authority already has nearly 4,200 employees, including the New York City Transit administration.

The transportation authority said that a sale could generate “substantially” more than $150 million for the properties, an estimate that appraisers and real estate executives did not dispute.

Peter S. Kalikow, who was chairman of the authority from 2001 to 2007, said he had decided not to sell the buildings when he was in charge because they housed the Metro-North administration, which he believed should remain close to Grand Central. “Moving New York City Transit to 2 Broadway is best thing we ever did,” he said in an interview this week. “But there are no Metro-North trains down there.”

The authority, however, says that if it sold the headquarters buildings, it would find new space for Metro-North somewhere in the Midtown area. The Long Island Rail Road offices are at its hub in Jamaica, Queens.

In recent years, the authority agreed to sell the development rights over its West Side Yards for $1 billion to Related Companies and the rights over its Brooklyn property that forms part of the Atlantic Yards project for $100 million to Forest City Ratner. But the money has been slow to come because of the recession and a restructuring of the deals.


So far, the transportation authority has gotten $20 million from the Brooklyn sale and $20.9 million from Related, which has also put $32.6 million in escrow for the deal, with another $10.9 million due next month.

Still, the timing might be right for the authority. Dan Fasulo, director of research at Real Capital Analytics, said the real estate market was showing signs of life, with vacancy rates falling at prime office buildings in Manhattan and few large blocks of space available anymore. Rising rents are prompting some developers to build, rather than buy existing buildings, which might make the authority’s sites attractive.

“Tenants today are asking for all the bells and whistles in new buildings,” Mr. Fasulo said.






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holy crap imagine Chrysler and Metlife accompanied by another 1000+ tower. epic!
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Come on, don't tear these towers down too, I don't get why people want to save the smallest rowhouses, but don't care about these early 20th century beauties.
     
     
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Come on, don't tear these towers down too, I don't get why people want to save the smallest rowhouses, but don't care about these early 20th century beauties.
why not,Midtown,the UWS,the UES and LM are littered wit things like this. its no big deal.
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Ha, it will be when most of them are gone and NY starts to look like Sao Paolo or Tokyo.

Those buildings have some nice base facade stonework. Demolish all these buildings, like the drake, and NY loses some more of its character unless the replacement design is stupendous. Sadly, the replacement designs are usually piles of dog excrement boxy glass towers.
     
     
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Ha, it will be when most of them are gone and NY starts to look like Sao Paolo or Tokyo.

Those buildings have some nice base facade stonework. Demolish all these buildings, like the drake, and NY loses some more of its character unless the replacement design is stupendous. Sadly, the replacement designs are usually piles of dog excrement boxy glass towers.
i dont agree, demolishing older structures in Midtown doesnt make midtown lose character imo.so long as buildings like 570 Lexington,Chrysler GE,ESB etc. are around Midtown will always retain its classic NY look. besides everything from 23rd street to 40th street between 6th and 12 avenue look similar to this. demolishing these wont hurt NY,Midtown is the central business district of the city and should change to meet the demands of the economy and companies that need office space here. Soho,Noho,Little Italy,LM,UES,UWS,The Greenwich Village,The East Village,The West Village,Tribeca etc. all have a majority of early 20th century architecture and older that make up the spirit of classic NY. Theres no need to keep each and every piece of architecture thats over 70 years old just because its old. NY has thousands upon thousands of such existing structures,and in neighborhoods which will most likely never be in danger of mass modernization or tall buildings.
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2011, 3:03 PM
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Ha, it will be when most of them are gone and NY starts to look like Sao Paolo or Tokyo.

Those buildings have some nice base facade stonework. Demolish all these buildings, like the drake, and NY loses some more of its character unless the replacement design is stupendous.
Once again, someone complaining about New York turning into some other city when the older buildings are gone. For obvious reasons, and more reasons to numerous to go into here, that can and never will happen.


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Those buildings are as vaulable as they are for the MTA because of where they sit.
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I wish that NY developers would take a page out of Chicago developers' book and considr doing more fascadectomies.
     
     
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I wish that NY developers would take a page out of Chicago developers' book and considr doing more fascadectomies.
you want us to use a surgical method on our skyscrapers...?
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In a way, yes. The Hearst Tower is an example of this, where the existing low rise masonry facade was preserved and incorporated into the new tower. The practice preserves the street level character of the old buildings while enabling the construction of new high quality space. Win-win.
     
     
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I hope they don't demolish these beauties. They have too much nice detail in the stone base and windows. I don't care if there are countless others like this. It is just sad to see all the nice old buildings demolished and sterile glass boxes go up.
     
     
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I hope they don't demolish these beauties. They have too much nice detail in the stone base and windows. I don't care if there are countless others like this. It is just sad to see all the nice old buildings demolished and sterile glass boxes go up.
well you havnt seen the design so dont judge beforehand. it might be something spectacular.
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I hope they don't demolish these beauties. They have too much nice detail in the stone base and windows. I don't care if there are countless others like this. It is just sad to see all the nice old buildings demolished and sterile glass boxes go up.
I agree.
Plenty of other mediocre post-war buildings should be destroyed first to make room for the new skyscrapers.
I bet that, economically, it makes sense to get rid of the old stuff.
     
     
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should someone make a diagram of this??
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Related’s Cross Outlines Hudson Yards, Leasing



By Carl Gaines
May 11, 2011

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Jay Cross, president of Related Hudson Yards, was among the speakers on a Real Estate Development and Financial Issues panel at the Urban Systems Symposium Wednesday. Cross outlined plans for the 26-acre site, for which Related won development rights in 2008, later telling GlobeSt.com that he feels good about the market and leasing prospects for the site.

According to Cross, some key factors shaping up for success at the yards include the timely and successful completion of neighboring projects, like the Number 7 subway line. “There are major infrastructure parcels of work going on all around us--in particular the number 7 subway, which I think is an unheralded public works success story,” Cross told attendees at the event.

“For the moment they’re both on track schedule and budget wise for our January 2014 opening,” he added. “And from our perspective and from the perspective of our corporate users who I’m pitching for the yards, it’s a critical, critical thing.” Extension of the number 7 subway to the Hudson Yards is a critical part of redevelopment efforts.

Speculation about who the corporate users Cross mentioned will be has run rampant--from Time Warner Inc. to handbag and accessories maker Coach. “We’re making progress every day,” Cross tells GlobeSt.com of leasing developments for the six million square feet of commercial space. He declined to name the companies Related is wooing, but said that they anticipated having deals in place by year’s end. Plans call for three corporate headquarters slots.

Earlier this month, Related and partner Oxford Properties Group tapped Dean Shapiro, a former executive managing director at CB Richard Ellis, to oversee marketing and leasing efforts.
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Were it not for Related offering bargain-basement rents, 15 Penn would have had a tenant already. They still will get one during this boom, which is just at the onset, but it might take another year or two.

At any rate, the Yards will be beautiful. The initial office towers will be beautiful. I was looking at them in detail in the attached video.

http://agreatbigcity.com/new-3d-rend...elopment-video

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just as long as they allow the highline park to be developed in full all they way down to the doorstep of the javits and they don't touch the spur.

while the former is likely, let's hear no more yada yada about tearing the spur section out !!!
     
     
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while the former is likely, let's hear no more yada yada about tearing the spur section out !!!
The spur is likely staying. But the High Line will be a little different around the railyards because it will actually be lower than the platform. Still, it connects the entire High Line park to the site, a huge bonus.
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Q - I know you’ve been busy, on and off, with Hudson Yards, which will include 12 million square feet of office towers, apartments, a hotel and a park over the 26-acre railyards.

A - We’ve been on it for about three and a half years. The last year and the year before that we didn’t do a lot. But Steve Ross and Related, and Oxford Properties, are committed to build this soon and are convinced that by next year they’re going to be moving ahead quite well. Which tenant goes first is up in the air.

The first phase is this: three towers with offices and residences and big retail. It’s all over the railroad tracks, so a big platform has to be built. We’re going to build the platform on the east and west end. This should be completed in 2016, and the entire project in 2025. That sounds like a lot of time, but look at the World Trade Center.

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