Largest Urban Agglomerations in the World

[Yuri]

Largest Urban Agglomerations in the World 2018

By City Population and Demographia respectively:

Europe

MOSCOW ------------------ 17,000,000
LONDON ------------------ 14,600,000
PARIS ------------------- 11,300,000
MADRID ------------------- 6,350,000
RUHR --------------------- 5,700,000
SAINT PETERSBURG --------- 5,550,000
MILAN -------------------- 5,150,000
COLOGNE-DÜSSELDORF ------- 4,975,000
BARCELONA ---------------- 4,700,000
BERLIN ------------------- 4,625,000
NAPOLI ------------------- 4,225,000
ROME --------------------- 3,600,000
KIEV --------------------- 3,450,000
ATHENS ------------------- 3,375,000
FRANKFURT ---------------- 3,225,000
ROTTERDAM ---------------- 3,200,000
BIRMINGHAM --------------- 3,100,000
MANCHESTER --------------- 3,025,000
HAMBURG ------------------ 2,825,000
BUDAPEST ----------------- 2,575,000
LISBON ------------------- 2,550,000
AMSTERDAM ---------------- 2,425,000
KATOWICE ----------------- 2,375,000
STUTTGART ---------------- 2,375,000
WARSAW ------------------- 2,300,000
MUNICH ------------------- 2,250,000
VIENNA ------------------- 2,225,000
BUCHAREST ---------------- 2,200,000
LEEDS -------------------- 2,150,000
STOCKHOLM ---------------- 2,150,000
BRUSSELS ----------------- 2,050,000
MINSK -------------------- 2,000,000

America

MEXICO CITY ------------- 22,600,000
NEW YORK ---------------- 22,200,000
SÃO PAULO --------------- 22,100,000
LOS ANGELES ------------- 17,700,000
BUENOS AIRES ------------ 16,100,000
RIO DE JANEIRO ---------- 12,800,000
LIMA -------------------- 10,300,000
CHICAGO ------------------ 9,750,000
BOGOTÁ ------------------- 9,650,000
WASHINGTON-BALTIMORE ----- 8,500,000
SAN FRANCISCO ------------ 7,800,000
BOSTON ------------------- 7,600,000
PHILADELPHIA ------------- 7,350,000
TORONTO ------------------ 7,300,000
SANTIAGO ----------------- 7,050,000
DALLAS ------------------- 6,900,000
HOUSTON ------------------ 6,500,000
MIAMI -------------------- 6,250,000
ATLANTA ------------------ 5,700,000
DETROIT ------------------ 5,700,000
GUADALAJARA -------------- 5,150,000
BELO HORIZONTE ----------- 5,000,000
MONTERREY ---------------- 4,825,000
PHOENIX ------------------ 4,500,000
SEATTLE ------------------ 4,275,000
MONTREAL ----------------- 4,200,000
TAMPA -------------------- 4,200,000
PORTO ALEGRE ------------- 4,100,000
BRASÍLIA ----------------- 3,975,000
MEDELLÍN ----------------- 3,900,000
SANTO DOMINGO ------------ 3,825,000
RECIFE ------------------- 3,800,000
CARACAS ------------------ 3,750,000
SALVADOR ----------------- 3,700,000
DENVER ------------------- 3,650,000
FORTALEZA ---------------- 3,650,000
CURITIBA ----------------- 3,350,000
SAN DIEGO ---------------- 3,325,000
ORLANDO ------------------ 3,275,000
CAMPINAS ----------------- 3,125,000
GUATEMALA CITY ----------- 3,100,000
MINNEAPOLIS -------------- 3,100,000
GUAYAQUIL ---------------- 3,075,000
PUEBLA ------------------- 3,075,000
CLEVELAND ---------------- 3,050,000
PORT-AU-PRINCE ----------- 3,050,000
CALI --------------------- 3,000,000
CINCINNATI --------------- 2,750,000
VANCOUVER ---------------- 2,725,000
QUITO -------------------- 2,625,000
MARACAIBO ---------------- 2,575,000
CHARLOTTE ---------------- 2,375,000
PORTLAND ----------------- 2,375,000
SALT LAKE CITY ----------- 2,350,000
ST. LOUIS ---------------- 2,350,000
SAN JOSÉ ----------------- 2,325,000
GOIÂNIA ------------------ 2,300,000
ASUNCIÓN ----------------- 2,275,000
BELÉM -------------------- 2,250,000
HAVANA ------------------- 2,225,000
TOLUCA ------------------- 2,225,000
LAS VEGAS ---------------- 2,200,000
MANAUS ------------------- 2,150,000
SAN ANTONIO -------------- 2,150,000
BARRANQUILLA ------------- 2,050,000
PITTSBURGH --------------- 2,050,000
SACRAMENTO --------------- 2,050,000
SAN JUAN ----------------- 2,050,000
LA PAZ ------------------- 2,025,000
SANTA CRUZ DE LA SIERRA -- 2,000,000

Oceania

SYDNEY ------------------- 5,000,000
MELBOURNE ---------------- 4,550,000
BRISBANE ----------------- 2,950,000
PERTH -------------------- 2,000,000

Africa

CAIRO ------------------- 18,200,000
LAGOS ------------------- 18,200,000
JOHANNESBURG-PRETORIA --- 13,400,000
KINSHASA ---------------- 11,600,000
LUANDA ------------------- 7,650,000
KHARTOUM ----------------- 5,950,000
DAR ES SALAAM ------------ 5,900,000
ALEXANDRIA --------------- 5,850,000
NAIROBI ------------------ 5,750,000
ABIDJAN ------------------ 5,350,000
ACCRA -------------------- 5,100,000
KANO --------------------- 4,400,000
CASABLANCA --------------- 4,325,000
CAPE TOWN ---------------- 4,125,000
ALGIERS ------------------ 3,825,000
ADDIS ABABA -------------- 3,650,000
DAKAR -------------------- 3,500,000
IBADAN ------------------- 3,350,000
DURBAN ------------------- 3,325,000
BAMAKO ------------------- 3,250,000
KAMPALA ------------------ 3,250,000
ABUJA -------------------- 3,200,000
YAOUNDÉ ------------------ 3,150,000
DOUALA ------------------- 3,125,000
KUMASI ------------------- 2,950,000
MAPUTO ------------------- 2,750,000
TUNIS -------------------- 2,575,000
LUSAKA ------------------- 2,475,000
OUAGADOUGOU -------------- 2,425,000
HARARE ------------------- 2,400,000
ANTANANARIVO ------------- 2,375,000
CONACRY ------------------ 2,375,000
PORT HARCOURT ------------ 2,200,000
BRAZZAVILLE -------------- 2,100,000
LUBUMBASHI --------------- 2,050,000

Middle-East/Central Asia

ISTANBUL ---------------- 14,800,000
TEHRAN ------------------ 14,700,000
RIYADH ------------------- 7,400,000
BAGHDAD ------------------ 6,950,000
AMMAN -------------------- 5,300,000
ANKARA ------------------- 4,850,000
DUBAI -------------------- 4,625,000
JEDDAH ------------------- 4,625,000
KUWAIT CITY -------------- 4,475,000
DAMASCUS ----------------- 3,675,000
ISFAHAN ------------------ 3,100,000
MESHED ------------------- 3,100,000
IZMIR -------------------- 3,000,000
TASHKENT ----------------- 2,700,000
SANAA -------------------- 2,625,000
TEL AVIV ----------------- 2,625,000
BAKU --------------------- 2,525,000
DAMMAM ------------------- 2,375,000
DOHA --------------------- 2,325,000
ALEPPO ------------------- 2,050,000
BURSA -------------------- 2,025,000
MECCA -------------------- 2,000,000

South Asia

NEW DELHI --------------- 28,400,000
BOMBAY ------------------ 24,200,000
DACCA ------------------- 18,800,000
KARACHI ----------------- 16,900,000
CALCUTTA ---------------- 16,400,000
LAHORE ------------------ 12,200,000
BANGALORE --------------- 11,500,000
MADRAS ------------------ 10,700,000
HYDERABAD ---------------- 9,600,000
AHMEDABAD ---------------- 8,000,000
POONA -------------------- 6,500,000
SURAT -------------------- 6,300,000
COLOMBO ------------------ 4,750,000
CHITTAGONG --------------- 4,725,000
KABUL -------------------- 4,000,000
JAIPUR ------------------- 3,750,000
LUCKNOW ------------------ 3,525,000
FAISALABAD --------------- 3,475,000
KANPUR ------------------- 3,375,000
RAWALPINDI --------------- 3,275,000
NAGPUR ------------------- 3,150,000
INDORE ------------------- 3,025,000
KATHMANDU ---------------- 2,950,000
BHILAI ------------------- 2,725,000
GUJRANWALA --------------- 2,600,000
COIMBATORE --------------- 2,575,000
PATNA -------------------- 2,575,000
BHOPAL ------------------- 2,300,000
CHANDIGARH --------------- 2,200,000
PESHAWAR ----------------- 2,200,000
AGRA --------------------- 2,175,000
HYDERABAD ---------------- 2,150,000
VADODARA ----------------- 2,125,000
VISHAKHAPATNAM ----------- 2,075,000
MULTAN ------------------- 2,000,000

East/Southeast Asia

GUANGZHOU --------------- 45,600,000
TOKYO ------------------- 39,900,000
JAKARTA ----------------- 30,300,000
SHANGHAI ---------------- 29,500,000
MANILA ------------------ 24,600,000
SEOUL ------------------- 24,600,000
BEIJING ----------------- 20,000,000
BANGKOK ----------------- 18,400,000
OSAKA-KYOTO ------------- 17,700,000
TIANJIN ----------------- 12,700,000
NAGOYA ------------------ 10,500,000
XIAMEN ------------------- 9,800,000
CHENGDU ------------------ 9,300,000
TAIPEI ------------------- 9,100,000
WUHAN -------------------- 8,700,000
KUALA LUMPUR ------------- 8,450,000
SAIGON ------------------- 8,350,000
HANGZHOU ----------------- 8,250,000
SHENYANG ----------------- 7,850,000
CHONGQING ---------------- 7,800,000
SINGAPORE ---------------- 7,750,000
SHANTOU ------------------ 7,700,000
HONG KONG ---------------- 7,350,000
XIAN --------------------- 6,750,000
NANJING ------------------ 6,600,000
BANDUNG ------------------ 6,150,000
QINGDAO ------------------ 5,900,000
RANGOON ------------------ 5,400,000
ZHENGZHOU ---------------- 5,400,000
HARBIN ------------------- 5,300,000
WENZHOU ------------------ 5,300,000
SURABAYA ----------------- 4,875,000
HEFEI -------------------- 4,675,000
CHANGSHA ----------------- 4,550,000
DALIAN ------------------- 4,500,000
SHIJIAZHUANG ------------- 4,225,000
BUSAN -------------------- 4,175,000
FUZHOU ------------------- 4,150,000
JINAN -------------------- 4,150,000
NANCHANG ----------------- 4,075,000
TAIYUAN ------------------ 4,075,000
KUNMING ------------------ 4,050,000
ÜRÜMQI ------------------- 3,975,000
HANOI -------------------- 3,825,000
CHANGCHUN ---------------- 3,650,000
MEDAN -------------------- 3,525,000
NANNING ------------------ 3,525,000
GUIYANG ------------------ 3,450,000
ZIBO --------------------- 3,400,000
NINGBO ------------------- 3,200,000
WUXI --------------------- 3,175,000
PYONGYANG ---------------- 2,875,000
KAOHSIUNG ---------------- 2,800,000
HUIZHOU ------------------ 2,750,000
LANZHOU ------------------ 2,750,000
CHANGZHOU ---------------- 2,725,000
DAEGU -------------------- 2,725,000
XUZHOU ------------------- 2,725,000
FUKUOKA ------------------ 2,700,000
TANGSHAN ----------------- 2,700,000
CEBU --------------------- 2,600,000
ANSHAN ------------------- 2,525,000
SAPPORO ------------------ 2,500,000
JIANGYIN ----------------- 2,450,000
TAICHUNG ----------------- 2,400,000
TAIZHOU ------------------ 2,225,000
OKAYAMA ------------------ 2,200,000
BAOTOU ------------------- 2,150,000
LIUZHOU ------------------ 2,125,000
LUOYANG ------------------ 2,125,000
YANTAI ------------------- 2,125,000
SEMARANG ----------------- 2,100,000
PHNON PENH --------------- 2,075,000
GEORGE TOWN -------------- 2,050,000
KITAKYUSHU --------------- 2,050,000

Europe

MOSCOW ------------------ 16,855,000
PARIS ------------------- 10,980,000
LONDON ------------------ 10,585,000
ESSEN-DÜSSELDORF --------- 6,665,000
MADRID ------------------- 6,385,000
MILAN -------------------- 5,290,000
SAINT PETERSBURG --------- 5,175,000
BARCELONA ---------------- 4,840,000
BERLIN ------------------- 4,120,000
ROME --------------------- 3,970,000
NAPOLI ------------------- 3,695,000
ATHENS ------------------- 3,470,000
KIEV --------------------- 2,845,000
LISBON ------------------- 2,715,000
MANCHESTER --------------- 2,705,000
ROTTERDAM ---------------- 2,675,000
BIRMINGHAM --------------- 2,565,000
BUDAPEST ----------------- 2,495,000
WARSAW ------------------- 2,285,000
COLOGNE-BONN ------------- 2,175,000
KATOWICE ----------------- 2,165,000
BRUSSELS ----------------- 2,140,000
HAMBURG ------------------ 2,115,000
BUCHAREST ---------------- 2,110,000
MUNICH ------------------- 2,045,000
MINSK -------------------- 2,000,000

America

NEW YORK ---------------- 21,575,000
SÃO PAULO --------------- 21,100,000
MEXICO CITY ------------- 20,565,000
LOS ANGELES ------------- 15,620,000
BUENOS AIRES ------------ 15,520,000
RIO DE JANEIRO ---------- 11,990,000
LIMA -------------------- 11,355,000
BOGOTÁ ------------------- 9,965,000
CHICAGO ------------------ 9,160,000
BOSTON ------------------- 7,315,000
TORONTO ------------------ 6,635,000
DALLAS ------------------- 6,600,000
SAN FRANCISCO ------------ 6,540,000
SANTIAGO ----------------- 6,350,000
HOUSTON ------------------ 6,285,000
MIAMI -------------------- 6,195,000
PHILADELPHIA ------------- 5,575,000
ATLANTA ------------------ 5,325,000
WASHINGTON --------------- 5,180,000
GUADALAJARA -------------- 4,830,000
BELO HORIZONTE ----------- 4,750,000
PHOENIX ------------------ 4,365,000
MONTERREY ---------------- 4,295,000
MEDELLÍN ----------------- 3,990,000
SEATTLE ------------------ 3,860,000
SANTO DOMINGO ------------ 3,815,000
DETROIT ------------------ 3,730,000
MONTREAL ----------------- 3,585,000
FORTALEZA ---------------- 3,580,000
PORTO ALEGRE ------------- 3,485,000
RECIFE ------------------- 3,440,000
SALVADOR ----------------- 3,310,000
BRASÍLIA ----------------- 3,300,000
CURITIBA ----------------- 3,280,000
SAN DIEGO ---------------- 3,255,000
GUAYAQUIL ---------------- 2,890,000
CARACAS ------------------ 2,890,000
MINNEAPOLIS -------------- 2,885,000
ASUNCIÓN ----------------- 2,860,000
PORT-AU-PRINCE ----------- 2,850,000
CAMPINAS ----------------- 2,770,000
DENVER ------------------- 2,755,000
TAMPA -------------------- 2,720,000
CALI --------------------- 2,540,000
GUATEMALA CITY ----------- 2,515,000
QUITO -------------------- 2,445,000
VANCOUVER ---------------- 2,335,000
BALTIMORE ---------------- 2,335,000
SANTA CRUZ DE LA SIERRA -- 2,320,000
SALT LAKE CITY ----------- 2,280,000
GOIÂNIA ------------------ 2,240,000
ORLANDO ------------------ 2,205,000
PUEBLA ------------------- 2,195,000
ST. LOUIS ---------------- 2,170,000
SAN JUAN ----------------- 2,135,000
LAS VEGAS ---------------- 2,130,000
MARACAIBO ---------------- 2,130,000
PORTLAND ----------------- 2,075,000
SAN ANTONIO -------------- 2,070,000
BELÉM -------------------- 2,060,000
MANAUS ------------------- 2,020,000
HAVANA ------------------- 2,020,000
TOLUCA ------------------- 2,015,000

Oceania

SYDNEY ------------------- 4,390,000
MELBOURNE ---------------- 4,305,000
BRISBANE ----------------- 2,120,000

Africa

CAIRO ------------------- 16,545,000
LAGOS ------------------- 13,910,000
KINSHASA ---------------- 12,350,000
JOHANNESBURG ------------- 9,115,000
ONITSHA ------------------ 7,850,000
LUANDA ------------------- 7,560,000
NAIROBI ------------------ 5,765,000
KHARTOUM ----------------- 5,490,000
ABIDJAN ------------------ 5,145,000
DAR ES SALAAM ------------ 4,980,000
ALEXANDRIA --------------- 4,960,000
CASABLANCA --------------- 4,410,000
ACCRA -------------------- 4,260,000
CAPE TOWN ---------------- 3,980,000
KANO --------------------- 3,875,000
ALGIERS ------------------ 3,790,000
ADDIS ABABA -------------- 3,650,000
YAOUNDÉ ------------------ 3,525,000
DURBAN ------------------- 3,515,000
BAMAKO ------------------- 3,455,000
DAKAR -------------------- 3,450,000
DOUALA ------------------- 3,310,000
KUMASI ------------------- 3,250,000
PRETORIA ----------------- 3,245,000
OUAGADOUGOU -------------- 3,225,000
IBADAN ------------------- 3,070,000
LUSAKA ------------------- 2,920,000
MAPUTO ------------------- 2,735,000
ANTANANARIVO ------------- 2,685,000
KAMPALA ------------------ 2,640,000
ABUJA -------------------- 2,605,000
MOGADISHU ---------------- 2,590,000
MBUJI-MAYI --------------- 2,280,000
TUNIS -------------------- 2,280,000
LUBUMBASHI --------------- 2,255,000
HARARE ------------------- 2,255,000
UYO ---------------------- 2,230,000
RABAT -------------------- 2,105,000
PORT HARCOURT ------------ 2,060,000
BRAZZAVILLE -------------- 2,045,000

Middle-East/Central Asia

ISTANBUL ---------------- 13,995,000
TEHRAN ------------------ 13,945,000
BAGHDAD ------------------ 7,135,000
RIYADH ------------------- 6,220,000
AMMAN -------------------- 5,020,000
KUWAIT CITY -------------- 4,860,000
ANKARA ------------------- 4,850,000
DUBAI -------------------- 3,990,000
JEDDAH ------------------- 3,975,000
ALEPPO ------------------- 3,890,000
MESHED ------------------- 3,535,000
TEL AVIV ----------------- 3,465,000
SANAA -------------------- 3,425,000
IZMIR -------------------- 3,280,000
BAKU --------------------- 2,865,000
DAMASCUS ----------------- 2,690,000
ISFAHAN ------------------ 2,525,000
TASHKENT ----------------- 2,295,000
BEIRUT ------------------- 2,285,000
SHIRAZ ------------------- 2,060,000

South Asia

NEW DELHI --------------- 27,280,000
BOMBAY ------------------ 23,265,000
DACCA ------------------- 17,425,000
CALCUTTA ---------------- 15,095,000
KARACHI ----------------- 13,255,000
LAHORE ------------------ 11,070,000
BANGALORE --------------- 10,920,000
MADRAS ------------------ 10,555,000
HYDERABAD ---------------- 9,595,000
AHMEDABAD ---------------- 7,880,000
SURAT -------------------- 6,200,000
POONA -------------------- 6,110,000
COLOMBO ------------------ 4,205,000
RAWALPINDI-ISLAMABAD ----- 4,155,000
KABUL -------------------- 3,980,000
JAIPUR ------------------- 3,670,000
LUCKNOW ------------------ 3,415,000
CHITTAGONG --------------- 3,400,000
FAISALABAD --------------- 3,305,000
KANPUR ------------------- 3,130,000
KATHMANDU ---------------- 2,965,000
NAGPUR ------------------- 2,805,000
COIMBATORE --------------- 2,760,000
CALICUT ------------------ 2,710,000
INDORE ------------------- 2,600,000
KOCHI -------------------- 2,585,000
THRISSUR ----------------- 2,575,000
MALAPPURAM --------------- 2,480,000
KANNUR ------------------- 2,415,000
PATNA -------------------- 2,320,000
GUJRANWALA --------------- 2,275,000
SAVAR -------------------- 2,240,000
BHOPAL ------------------- 2,230,000
THIRUVANANTHAPURAM ------- 2,115,000
AGRA --------------------- 2,095,000
VADODARA ----------------- 2,080,000
PESHAWAR ----------------- 2,060,000
HYDERABAD ---------------- 2,000,000

East/Southeast Asia

TOKYO ------------------- 38,050,000
JAKARTA ----------------- 32,275,000
MANILA ------------------ 24,650,000
SEOUL ------------------- 24,210,000
SHANGHAI ---------------- 24,115,000
BEIJING ----------------- 21,250,000
GUANGZHOU --------------- 19,965,000
OSAKA-KYOTO ------------- 17,165,000
BANGKOK ----------------- 15,975,000
TIANJIN ----------------- 13,655,000
SHENZHEN ---------------- 12,905,000
CHENGDU ----------------- 11,430,000
SAIGON ------------------ 10,690,000
NAGOYA ------------------ 10,105,000
CHONGQING ---------------- 8,875,000
TAIPEI ------------------- 8,605,000
DONGGUAN ----------------- 8,340,000
HANOI -------------------- 8,140,000
SHENYANG ----------------- 8,095,000
WUHAN -------------------- 7,980,000
KUALA LUMPUR ------------- 7,820,000
HONG KONG ---------------- 7,380,000
HANGZHOU ----------------- 7,100,000
ZHENGZHOU ---------------- 7,005,000
QUANZHOU ----------------- 6,720,000
NANJING ------------------ 6,525,000
SUZHOU ------------------- 6,175,000
BANDUNG ------------------ 5,945,000
QINGDAO ------------------ 5,930,000
SINGAPORE ---------------- 5,930,000
XIAN --------------------- 5,905,000
RANGOON ------------------ 5,550,000
FUZHOU ------------------- 5,400,000
HARBIN ------------------- 5,115,000
DALIAN ------------------- 4,600,000
GUIYANG ------------------ 4,480,000
WENZHOU ------------------ 4,460,000
SURABAYA ----------------- 4,325,000
XIAMEN ------------------- 4,265,000
CHANGSHA ----------------- 4,020,000
JINAN -------------------- 3,940,000
TAIYUAN ------------------ 3,930,000
KUNMING ------------------ 3,895,000
HEFEI -------------------- 3,865,000
WUXI --------------------- 3,825,000
CHANGZHOU ---------------- 3,770,000
SHIJIAZHUANG ------------- 3,765,000
NINGBO ------------------- 3,735,000
ZHANGJIAGGANG ------------ 3,595,000
CHANGCHUN ---------------- 3,575,000
ÜRÜMQI ------------------- 3,575,000
ZHONGSHAN ---------------- 3,575,000
MEDAN -------------------- 3,350,000
BUSAN -------------------- 3,225,000
NANNING ------------------ 2,965,000
NANCHANG ----------------- 2,935,000
LANZHOU ------------------ 2,890,000
PYONGYANG ---------------- 2,885,000
CHAOYANG ----------------- 2,855,000
LINYI -------------------- 2,640,000
FUKUOKA ------------------ 2,635,000
CEBU --------------------- 2,635,000
SHAOXING ----------------- 2,615,000
ZIBO --------------------- 2,600,000
TAICHUNG ----------------- 2,595,000
TANGSHAN ----------------- 2,590,000
YINCHUAN ----------------- 2,570,000
KAOHSIUNG ---------------- 2,555,000
SHANTOU ------------------ 2,515,000
HOHHOT ------------------- 2,455,000
BAOTOU ------------------- 2,415,000
LUOYANG ------------------ 2,415,000
SAPPORO ------------------ 2,390,000
DAEGU -------------------- 2,370,000
YANTAI ------------------- 2,310,000
HAIKOU ------------------- 2,250,000
PUTIAN ------------------- 2,095,000
KUNSHAN ------------------ 2,055,000
HANDAN ------------------- 2,045,000
HUIZHOU ------------------ 2,025,000

[Yuri]

As expected, there are some problematic cases, specially on City Population. Demographia seems more worried to provide more precise numbers and coherent definitions.

[Urbanguy]

^Very cool. BTW what code are you using to make the lay out like that?

[isaidso]

Looks like City Population uses Greater Toronto - Hamilton while Demographia uses Greater Toronto.

[Yuri]

Originally Posted by Urbanguy

^Very cool. BTW what code are you using to make the lay out like that?

I use the word "code". Use my post and you'll see it.

[Yuri]

Originally Posted by isaidso

Looks like City Population uses Greater Toronto - Hamilton while Demographia uses Greater Toronto.

Demographia is urban area based. In their link they have a large explanation on definitions, and talk specifically about Canada right in the beginning.

For Toronto, it's a combined urban area, the ones of Oshawa, Toronto and Hamilton. Similar cases are New York and Bridgeport, Los Angeles and San Bernardino, San Francisco and San Jose, Chicago and Kenosha, Boston and Providence (this one for the first time), etc.

[dc_denizen]

Bridgeport should not be part of the New York urban area. Neither should Stamford really.

Besides contiguousness, there needs to be an urban area definition that separates cities that are historically their own centers

Eg hamilton, on
Providence
Stamford, ct
Baltimore

Etc

[Yuri]

I disagree. If we follow this strictly, even small towns couldn't be encompassed by large metropolitan areas or Jersey City or Brooklyn should be brought separated.

Virtually 90% of Fairfield County is simply result from New York's urban expansion. Cities grow and things change.

Here in this link of City Population, we can see all the urban areas and clusters of the US: http://citypopulation.de/php/usa-ua.php. And on page 10 of Demographia's report (12 on the PDF), they specify the urban areas they combined: http://www.demographia.com/db-worldua.pdf

Then, I have some criticisms. They were very generous to Boston, Salt Lake City, Seattle, but not to Detroit, where Ann Arbor or at least South Lyon-Howell should be combined, adding over 400k people. Ditto for Cleveland and Lorain (more 200k), which are been contiguous for several decades.

Given they've combined Boston and Providence, Washington and Baltimore should be too.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by yuriandrade

Demographia is urban area based. In their link they have a large explanation on definitions, and talk specifically about Canada right in the beginning.

For Toronto, it's a combined urban area, the ones of Oshawa, Toronto and Hamilton. Similar cases are New York and Bridgeport, Los Angeles and San Bernardino, San Francisco and San Jose, Chicago and Kenosha, Boston and Providence (this one for the first time), etc.

Thanks although Demographia definitely isn't including Hamilton as part of Toronto's urban area.

[Yuri]

They are. Go to page 10 (or 12) of their report. Toronto is formed by Toronto, Hamilton and Oshawa urban areas.

According to the Wikipedia, numbers match: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tres_in_Canada

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by dc_denizen

Bridgeport should not be part of the New York urban area. Neither should Stamford really.

That's absurd. Stamford is the leading business center in suburban NY, and has the highest commuter rail ridership into Manhattan of any suburban station.

It goes without saying that the entire corridor from Stamford into Manhattan has been urbanized for 100 years. It's more linked to Manhattan than even some fringe parts of NYC proper.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by yuriandrade

They were very generous to Boston, Salt Lake City, Seattle, but not to Detroit, where Ann Arbor or at least South Lyon-Howell should be combined, adding over 400k people. Ditto for Cleveland and Lorain (more 200k), which are been contiguous for several decades.

My brother lives in the South Lyon area, and that's definitely Detroit. It's just newer suburban sprawl, but everyone considers themselves Detroiters and works in Metro Detroit jobs. Everyone works in the auto industry.

[LMich]

Originally Posted by yuriandrade

They were very generous to Boston, Salt Lake City, Seattle, but not to Detroit, where Ann Arbor or at least South Lyon-Howell should be combined, adding over 400k people. Ditto for Cleveland and Lorain (more 200k), which are been contiguous for several decades.

This is very true.



While the Census may be a bit too generous in what it considers urban, there is really no doubt that the Ann Arbor UA and the South Lyon-Howell-Brighton UA have grown together. In fact, the Port Huron UA is now connected with a tendril along the St. Clair River with the Detroit UA.

I wonder if your sources use American definitions for some of the American cities? I said it in another thread, but while the Census may take in more land than most countries would who measure these statistics, combining UAs and UCs here is nearly impossible. The only way to adjacent UAs/UCs are combined is if one is in danger of losing its status as a UA/UC due to population loss, which is just a weird rule.

BTW, I think some are confusing urban area and metropolitan area, again. Transit connections have nothing to do with whether something is an urban area or not, at least not directly. Urban agglomerations are a spartial measurement, not a commuter measurement. That two cores might have a commuter rail connection is not a factor in a spatial measurement.

[softee]

Originally Posted by isaidso

Thanks although Demographia definitely isn't including Hamilton as part of Toronto's urban area.

Yes it is, it's combining the Statcan "population centre" (used to be called urban area) data for Toronto, Hamilton and Oshawa.

The other site is just combining the full CMA populations of Toronto, Hamilton and Oshawa.

[tdawg]

I have friends who commute from Fairfield and Stamford into Midtown every workday on MetroNorth. If it's connected by commuter rail, it's sure as hell part of the urban area.

[chris08876]

Originally Posted by Urbanguy

^Very cool. BTW what code are you using to make the lay out like that?

Just quote his post, like if your going to reply, and you can see the format used. Quick way to utilize it. Use the "----" or "...." to keep it aligned.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by yuriandrade

They are. Go to page 10 (or 12) of their report. Toronto is formed by Toronto, Hamilton and Oshawa urban areas.

According to the Wikipedia, numbers match: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tres_in_Canada

Originally Posted by softee

Yes it is, it's combining the Statcan "population centre" (used to be called urban area) data for Toronto, Hamilton and Oshawa.

The other site is just combining the full CMA populations of Toronto, Hamilton and Oshawa.

I'm surprised that there's a 665,000 difference between urban area and CMA. There are a lot more people in those 'empty' bits than I thought. Would either of you know what the area of this is?

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by tdawg

I have friends who commute from Fairfield and Stamford into Midtown every workday on MetroNorth. If it's connected by commuter rail, it's sure as hell part of the urban area.

I'm not sure that having commuter rail is enough. Toronto has commuter rail to Peterborough, Barrie, Guelph, KW, Milton, and Niagara Falls. None of those places are part of the Toronto urban area.

[Nouvellecosse]

Since when is there commuter rail to Peterborough?

[SIGSEGV]

South Bend has commuter rail to Chicago. Trenton has commuter rail to both Philly and NYC.