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Old Posted Oct 5, 2009, 3:41 PM
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they already are spread out of the city look at manitoba warioes they are a national gang now............
Another local success story !

Who would have thought that the little gang from the 'Peg would grow up to become so important.

Good on ya Warioes !
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One of the Free Press articles mentioned not only "housing and aboriginal businesses" on the land, but also a possible casino. That would be the point where I'd leave the area and move far outside the city limits. What a disaster.
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Hudson says future development of the land could include the construction of a casino and an urban reserve with housing and businesses.
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Homes, water park at Kapyong?
Bands mulling varied housing, big attraction


By: Mary Agnes Welch

‘There is no reason to fear Indian people moving in. We want to bridge the gap of understanding’ -- Peguis First Nation Chief Glenn Hudson

First Nations are eyeballing Kapyong Barracks for affordable and high-end housing, businesses and even Winnipeg's longed-for water park.

And, they are open to earmarking some of the abandoned barracks land to widen Kenaston Boulevard, a project that is effectively stalled until wrangling over the former army base is done.

"We're certainly interested in the entire property," said Peguis First Nation Chief Glenn Hudson. "It's an opportunity for us to create an economic development zone."

Hudson was quick to quash fears that Kapyong could become a ghetto in one of the city's most prestigious neighbourhoods, which has so far looked on the idea of an urban reserve with skepticism and fear.

Hudson said the bands plan on consulting widely, designing a neighbourhood that fits in with Tuxedo and River Heights and building homes for low-income people and the wealthy, both aboriginal and non-aboriginal.

"There is no reason to fear Indian people moving in," said Hudson. "We want to bridge the gap of understanding."

Hudson won't reveal the exact plans for Kapyong, saying the Treaty One bands are only beginning discussions with well-known urban planning outfits. But he said green space and recreation centres will figure prominently in any plan, including perhaps a water park.

"We want some kind of draw," said Hudson. "I wouldn't rule it out."

Late last month, a federal Appeal Court judge ruled that Ottawa had failed to properly consult Peguis and the other six Treaty One First Nations when it decided to sell the Kapyong Barracks to Canada Lands, the federal property-development firm.

The judge effectively sent Ottawa back to square one in a process that's dragged on since the Second Battalion Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry moved west to CFB Shilo more than five years ago.

A spokeswoman for the Department of National Defence said Tuesday the government hasn't decided yet whether it will appeal the decision. Ottawa must decide before the end of the month.

But even if Ottawa agrees to consult with First Nations, it's not a sure bet bands such as Peguis will ultimately have access to Kapyong. And consultations could take months, even years.

But Peguis and Brokenhead First Nations are confident their treaty land entitlements give them "first right of refusal" on surplus federal land. Both bands are still owed hundreds of hectares of land from old, unfulfilled treaties.

Peguis also has about $190 million in land claim settlement money in reserve, much of it from a deal settled over the summer. Hudson said much of that could be used to bankroll a development.

The judge's decision could also clear up one of Kapyong's most troubling quirks -- the fate of the roughly 350 houses on the base, about half of which have stood vacant despite a dire shortage of affordable rentals in Winnipeg.

The homes were not included in the "working" part of the base that Ottawa declared surplus and was about to sell. The homes were part of a similar but separate process that was well underway and were likely to be eventually turned over to Canada Lands.

Now, Hudson hopes any consultation process with Ottawa could include the houses, and he said he'd like to see them rented out while work gets underway planning the new neighbourhood.

-- with a file from Mia Rabson
If they teamed up with a good local architecture firm, and designed a very very modern, attractive waterpark/hotel combo, well, i think that would be a brilliant move on their part and show the 'white folk' that 'indians' aren't only about poverty, gas bars and casinos. it would be a good step for our city, as well as a pretty genious business move.
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By: Eva Cohen

THE Kapyong land where the 2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry used to be based could be sitting in limbo for longer than expected.

The federal government has appealed an early October court ruling that it must shelve a planned sale of Kapyong Barracks at Grant Avenue and Kenaston Boulevard until the government consults with Manitoba First Nations.

The ruling by Judge Douglas Campbell elated members of Peguis and Brokenhead First Nations, who thought it highly unlikely Canada would appeal the decision.

The main issue Campbell cited in his ruling was First Nations were not consulted about the land before Canada started the process of selling it to the Canada Lands Company for development.

The federal government argued in the appeal filed Friday that the judge made at least 10 mistakes in his ruling, including his finding there was a duty to consult First Nations about this particular parcel of land.

Norman Boudreau, the Winnipeg lawyer acting for the First Nations, said Canada is "grasping at straws" by making this appeal.

"Perhaps Canada is hoping that by putting the First Nations in this position, they will relinquish their right," Boudreau said. "But they will not."

Boudreau said all the points the federal government raises in the appeal were already addressed by the judge.

The Treaty One First Nations argued they are still owed 64,000 acres of land in outstanding claims and should have had a crack at the Kapyong site.

Boudreau said by not heeding the judge's ruling, the Canadian government has acted in a way that is unfortunate not only for the First Nations, but for all Winnipeggers.

"Canada could have seized the opportunity to sit down with the First Nations in good faith, but they did not," Boudreau said. "Now the land will remain vacant for a very long time."

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Republished from the Winnipeg Free Press print edition October 31, 2009 A5
Hope this gets addressed fast because I'm holding my breath...
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One of the Free Press articles mentioned not only "housing and aboriginal businesses" on the land, but also a possible casino. That would be the point where I'd leave the area and move far outside the city limits. What a disaster.
Does every first nations business development initiative include a casino, pretty simplistic if you ask me.
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The ones here usually include mills, sports and recreation facilities, and fly-in fishing/hunting resorts, some of the latter having turned out to be very successful. Casinos are common choices because the federal land (reserves aren't part of provinces) has fewer restrictions on how they can operate, and they generate a considerable amount of revenue for the community.
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