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Old Posted Feb 3, 2019, 6:02 PM
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This sentiment would not exist if the street widths in these areas were half what they currently are
What do you mean by this?
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2019, 6:07 PM
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What do you mean by this?
I think he means the street is out of scale with the buildings. Why do streets to lowrises need to be so wide?
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2019, 6:10 PM
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^^glad for rehabs like that
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2019, 6:39 PM
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I think he means the street is out of scale with the buildings. Why do streets to lowrises need to be so wide?
Because CDOT has design standards for new public streets that get applied uniformly, and have not been updated since the last Daley administration. If a developer wants public water lines, snowplowing, public streetlights, etc than they need to build to the CDOT standard. The narrowest street in the standards manual is 39' wide, but CDOT officials will usually insist on going wider.

In the case of the Cabrini area, planners probably insisted on streets between 48' and 66' wide. The current standards are based on A) a long-standing drive to maximize street parking, B) worst-case scenario access for emergency vehicles and snowplows, and C) 90s-era beautification ideas to encourage street trees and grassy parkways.

If a developer wants to do something different, then they must build a private street and assume all responsibility for that street indefinitely, or hand it off to a homeowners association that will likely put up gates Dearborn Park-style.

This isn't the best approach to street design obviously, but it's probably something beyond the ability of a developer or even an alderman to change. Leadership in encouraging narrow, walkable streets can come from the Mayor's Office only. Emanuel thankfully led the way in retrofitting existing city streets for walkability and built bike lanes all over town, but apparently did not change the guidelines for new streets.
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Speaking of public paths:





Everything from Columbus to LSD is torn up along the river. Does anyone have any photos of what the rehabbed river walk will look like here?
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2019, 10:12 PM
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Speaking of public paths:





Everything from Columbus to LSD is torn up along the river. Does anyone have any photos of what the rehabbed river walk will look like here?
Here's a Tribune article on it. They're going to make it look more like the western section with a bunch of shops/restaurants. The best part of the plan to me is covering up lower wacker with art.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2019, 11:03 PM
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Here's a Tribune article on it. They're going to make it look more like the western section with a bunch of shops/restaurants. The best part of the plan to me is covering up lower wacker with art.
Lower Wacker should be celebrated - showcased - put in plain sight with bright light. Or it can continue as an outdoor detox center.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2019, 11:11 PM
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Here's a Tribune article on it. They're going to make it look more like the western section with a bunch of shops/restaurants. The best part of the plan to me is covering up lower wacker with art.
The article does not mention any timeline as to when it will be completed. Do we have any idea when that will be?
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^ Ha, it’s in the headline. 2-year rehab. My guess is it’ll be opening in spring 2020
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2019, 1:31 PM
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^ Ha, it’s in the headline. 2-year rehab. My guess is it’ll be opening in spring 2020
Ugh. I'm an idiot. I was looking for the year. Thank you!
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2019, 3:51 AM
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Clark/Division - vertical addition
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2019, 1:30 PM
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Round 2. I remember a slightly different design of the vertical addition around the time the Sinclair was proposed
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Round 2. I remember a slightly different design of the vertical addition around the time the Sinclair was proposed
Yeah like five years ago?
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2019, 3:40 PM
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The lower half facade is obviously going to be renovated per this rendering. Why not make it a unified design then throughout? To be different?
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The demarcation of the addition is interesting, and I personally appreciate the non-traditional choice of pattern.

The design is pretty unified even if there are contrasting materials/patterns. The treatment of window protrusions and rhythm of their placement are coherent on both halves.

It's good if things get a little weird sometimes.

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I like it too. In any case it's much better than what it looks like now
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2019, 9:28 PM
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Clark/Division - vertical addition
It all depends on the materials.

Good materials = sick
Bad materials = shit
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2019, 9:57 PM
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Remember that McKinley Park warehouse that tragically burned down on South Ashland?

Well, it gets new life now as a prefab distribution center:

https://therealdeal.com/chicago/2019...shipping-site/

What a visual loss, but at least we get a property tax producing asset on the site...
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2019, 10:47 PM
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so much good stuff lost in that area in the past several years

whats the status of the 3500 block of Ashland? another heartbreaker....



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